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[Oni Changas]

Yo, toggle brutes too. I'm tired of seeing krogan buttcheeks in my face.

And rachni are disgusting. They blow their sacs all over you if you get too close.

[wolfhowwl]

Instead of disrespecting BioWare's artistic integrity and demanding that a developer censor their game for your convenience, you guys should exercise some self-discipline and simply not buy the game.

 

Let your wallet speak for your convictions.

[Iakus]

Insulting you is not my intention but you just don't get it. It's like you didn't read the last ~10 pages.

 

"You just don't get it?"  Better, but that's an old one.  Come one, be original!  I have faith in you!

 

 

 

Which would mean they'd have to censor themselves instead of writing what they want.

 Umm, how is being mindful of what they write censorship?  Stuff goes through edits and rewrites all the time.  Things get cut.  Things get added on.  SInce when is that censorship?

 

 

 

I assume those people are a minority cause excessive gore serves no purpose outside of shock effects and that gets old quickly.

 

Well, we agree on something, at least

 

 

 

I am aware that you can skip cutscenes. This is not what was asked by the OP and not what has been discussed in this thread.
 

Actually, it has been discussed as a potential answer to OP's problem.

 

 

 

There are several instances in DA:I where nudity pops up during dialogue, which means you can't easily skip it without missing out on content. To counter this issue it was proposed to introduce a toggle which would hide/remove the nudity in some unexplained way so the player could still have the conversation with their LI.
Additionally this request is preemptive for ME:A, asking for a nudity toggle option.
 

Actually what I think has been proposed is to simply not have such dialogue and make those scenes skippable, as has been done in other games.  It has also been noted that some countries with stricter rules about nudity have covered up characters in those scenes.  I believe it has been asked if that could be made into an option or a toggle, but that it would in fact be resource-intensive to implement.

 

 

I am opposed to this on principle, not only is nudity not a bad thing that needs to be censored but these games are rated M and thus the larger part of the  demographic doesn't mind or actually wants nudity in their game.

So if it doesn't bother you personally, it isn't a problem?  

[Kabooooom]

Seriously, as others have wondered here - who gets offended by sex and language this easily? Is it a religious thing? It's a religious thing, right? I truly do not understand. This is an M-rated game. If your "morals" make you uncomfortable with certain parts of it...then play something else.

[N7M]

It's less about what's been discussed and more the general tone of the conversation at this point. In theory, we could provoke a discussion to the end of time, if we were inclined. 

 

It's a complex issue with implications that could impact many people and the Mass Effect franchise. To the eyes of some, of course. 

[Iakus]

Instead of disrespecting BioWare's artistic integrity and demanding that a developer censor their game for your convenience, you guys should exercise some self-discipline and simply not buy the game.

 

Let your wallet speak for your convictions.

Oh, believe me, I have little respect for "artistic integrity" and will likely be holding tightly to my wallet, but for reasons I find far more important than these...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Seriously, as others have wondered here - who gets offended by sex and language this easily? Is it a religious thing? It's a religious thing, right? I truly do not understand. This is an M-rated game. If your "morals" make you uncomfortable with certain parts of it...then play something else.

Why is morals in quotation marks? 

[Iakus]

Seriously, as others have wondered here - who gets offended by sex and language this easily? Is it a religious thing? It's a religious thing, right? I truly do not understand. This is an M-rated game. If your "morals" make you uncomfortable with certain parts of it...then play something else.

Does it really matter to you?

[Elhanan]

I think you missed the point of my post. In any case, given that everybody here acknowledges that M rated videogame content comes in many different forms and we that all react to it in many different ways, your call for a personally calibrated mature content filter for ME:A seems all the more unrealistic.

If it is, then I am now worse off than now. But if an Option can be included in a viable fashion, then benching characters for dialogue may be a thing of the past; of real benefit for myself.

[Elhanan]

Instead of disrespecting BioWare's artistic integrity and demanding that a developer censor their game for your convenience, you guys should exercise some self-discipline and simply not buy the game.
 
Let your wallet speak for your convictions.

This is what I already do when I am unable to have enough control over said content. No TW or FO series for me.

But if Bioware can create a game without the loss of artistic license, and include an additional filter (eg Gore setting), then I am happy to help ask for it.

[FKA_Servo]

Indeed. And Saints Row 4, is 'Mature', though that's not the word I'd use

(fun though)....

It arguably had better Bioware romances than most Bioware games.

[Kabooooom]

Does it really matter to you?

As far as does it personally affect me? Not really, obviously. But I am fascinated by why people are so easily offended, and interested in the reasoning behind it. Of course, if such offense were broadcasted on the marquis sign of a church, I wouldn't find it interesting. But people are offended about sex and language in a game where you murder people and aliens. So, getting offended in that situation seems absurd to me. Do people compartmentalize their offense to such things? Really, its rather bizarre.

And, I dont mean to be particularly offensive with openly wondering if the sort of people that take offense to such things do so for religious reasons - other people here have wondered the same thing, and I honestly can't think of another reason why someone would be offended in such a fashion.

Truly, it is bizarre that one would pick and choose what explicit content to be offended by in an extremely explicit game. Violence and murder is ok, but language and sex isn't? Come on.

[DaemionMoadrin]

If it is, then I am now worse off than now. But if an Option can be included in a viable fashion, then benching characters for dialogue may be a thing of the past; of real benefit for myself.

 

What could be viable about it?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But people are offended about sex and language in a game where you murder people and aliens. So, getting offended in that situation seems absurd to me. Do people compartmentalize their offense to such things? Really, its rather bizarre.

I'd love it if Bioware did what the Deus Ex franchise does where there are non-lethal ways to play the game. Probably wouldn't be nearly as extensive as the Deus Ex franchise, but something like being able to equip a non-lethal stun upgrade to guns or ammo would work. Using the gas grenade to spare the Zhu's Hope colonists is still one of my favorite roleplaying opportunities in the trilogy. 

[Elhanan]

What could be viable about it?

The function is not too costly and difficult to implement, and sales covers the cost.

[wolfhowwl]

I used to think entitled gamers were a myth...

 

Then I read this topic.

[von uber]

Seriously? A warning?

Bloody hell.

[DaemionMoadrin]

The function is not too costly and difficult to implement, and sales covers the cost.

 

Are you a game designer now? Project planner? Accountant?

 

Do you work in Marketing or Sales?

 

Cause... you are wrong.

[Kabooooom]

I'd love it if Bioware did what the Deus Ex franchise does where there are non-lethal ways to play the game. Probably wouldn't be nearly as extensive as the Deus Ex franchise, but something like being able to equip a non-lethal stun upgrade to guns or ammo would work. Using the gas grenade to spare the Zhu's Hope colonists is still one of my favorite roleplaying opportunities in the trilogy.

Does Deus Ex allow you to do this for the entirety of the game? That's interesting.

[Il Divo]

Boss fights aside, it does. And those were ripped apart pretty thoroughly by the fan base. 

[Elhanan]

I used to think entitled gamers were a myth...
 
Then I read this topic.

Because requesting for an Option just reeks of entitlement.

OTOH, demanding nothing be done because it might ruin the experience of those not even using the Toggle; could be....

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Does Deus Ex allow you to do this for the entirety of the game? That's interesting.

Yep. It was said that the upcoming game Deus Ex: Mankind Divided can be played to full completion without the player having to kill a single person. 

http://www.rockpaper...ivided-no-kill/

[Kabooooom]

Boss fights aside, it does. And those were ripped apart pretty thoroughly by the fan base.

That's...kind of weird. But also sort of cool. I've never played Deus Ex. Heard an equal amount of good and bad things.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Because requesting for an Option just reeks of entitlement.

OTOH, demanding nothing be done because it might ruin the experience of those not even using the Toggle; could be....

 

Using or not using the toggle makes no difference when it has an impact on the game anyway. Why you can't seem to understand that is baffling.

[Il Divo]

That's...kind of weird. But also sort of cool. I've never played Deus Ex. Heard an equal amount of good and bad things.

 

Very different from ME, despite both being scifi. The story/characters have some issues, but it's got my favorite setting in a game, bar none. And it just reeks of style.