.... We can already see that effect from Fox News with Mass Effect 1 because ME2, DAO, DA2,and ME3 all had underwear romance scenes besides Liara in ME3 if you romanced her. Censorship is the problem not the answer.
It would be interesting to see Megyn Kelly and co. revisit the issue of sexuality in video games and comparing titles like Mass Effect and the Witcher 3 which have gotten the same M rating.
It would be interesting to see Megyn Kelly and co. revisit the issue of sexuality in video games and comparing titles like Mass Effect and the Witcher 3 which have gotten the same M rating.
Maybe not her, but would like to see one of the gamers there do some in-depth coverage of various titles.
Her and the panels experiences with games, ratings systems, parental controls and such over the last 7 years may have informed their opinions. Have their opinions changed on parental controls? the ratings system? what do they think of the changes BW made to sexual scenes? Add this to comparisons to acclaimed titles in the marketplace currently with the same ratings that have sexual scenes. The idea of bringing in additional industry panelists and being more in depth is good as it could provide perspectives.
I thought Megyn, while not overly informed at the time, did appreciate the game and did try to inform herself as much as she could and stayed within what she knew. I'd be ok with seeing her host.
It would be interesting to see Megyn Kelly and co. revisit the issue of sexuality in video games and comparing titles like Mass Effect and the Witcher 3 which have gotten the same M rating.
They would go one further and start calling the XBox One, the seXBOne. It seems that anybody having any amount of varial and/or trivial amounts of fun, is a big no no in their book.
They would go one further and start calling the XBox One, the seXBOne. It seems that anybody having any amount of varial and/or trivial amounts of fun, is a big no no in their book.
I've always wondered how people who are offended by nudity or sex actually get intimate with someone (and yes, in my opinion, sex with someone is absolutely important in a relationship - most of us (barring a few genetic mutations) are wired for it). What an emotionally crippling thing to do to yourself.
To feel it's socially acceptable to berate different opinions and perspectives with sexually violent impulses, where did you learn this from?
You have seen the responses to the OP, right? 
I've always wondered how people who are offended by nudity or sex actually get intimate with someone (and yes, in my opinion, sex with someone is absolutely important in a relationship - most of us (barring a few genetic mutations) are wired for it). What an emotionally crippling thing to do to yourself.
Weirdly this thread is reminding me of a song called 'Minecraft is for Everyone', it has a lot of cursing in it and all of it is censored either with bleeps or replacement words and honestly I rather enjoy it that way it makes it more amusing. Though I do think that has a lot to do with the fact that I heard it like that first so that's how it normally should be with that song in my brain. That does get me wondering though since some people think hearing a censored version of something after hearing it uncensored at first and becoming accustomed to that would feel the same if it was reversed, where there was a censored version first and after a while an uncensored version was release. Would the uncensored version then feel out of place from becoming accustomed to a censored version first. Just something i'm curious about with it in general whether it be, movies, music, games, ect.
Hi everyone. Please do not derail the thread with political debates. Thank you.
I've always wondered how people who are offended by nudity or sex actually get intimate with someone (and yes, in my opinion, sex with someone is absolutely important in a relationship - most of us (barring a few genetic mutations) are wired for it). What an emotionally crippling thing to do to yourself.
There is an obvious explanation here...
I'm not into that sort of thing. Some women dig it though. It's no urban myth.
Cool. Your disgust is not my problem. I find it amusing that my opinion of her looking sexually frustrated offends you.
I have no idea who the woman is actually and no idea what she looks like to guess her sexual satisfaction levels. I'll take your word that you may recognize a sexually frustrated female's face though to recognize the body language
All I found offensive was that your language was an aggressively misogynistic statement and if you're cool with giving that impression on a public forum....? Not my problem
People waited 3 games before complaining about this on an M rated game. You should have known what you're getting yourself into. Why not telling GTA to tone it down also?
People waited 3 games before complaining about this on an M rated game. You should have known what you're getting yourself into. Why not telling GTA to tone it down also?
All I found offensive was that your language was an aggressively misogynistic statement and if you're cool with giving that impression on a public forum....? Not my problem
It wasn't misogynistic at all in specific contexts. I'm cool with presenting myself exactly as I do. As many who know me here will certainly attest. Your impression or perspective of me is not my problem.
But as the kind moderator recently posted (which you've obviously missed), we're moving along now.
Pls re-read the OP. Asking for a reduction in content is another thread. This is one about a Toggle to allow for all Players to better tailor the extant content to their wishes.
Because they have to dedicate resource to do all that. It's lost opportunity that could be used for fixing bugs or adding more contents. I'm against it. It's watering it down. The developers already explained how it was difficult to implement as well. Could it be implement? Possibly? Should it? No, I don't think they should.
Because they have to dedicate resource to do all that. It's lost opportunity that could be used for fixing bugs or adding more contents. I'm against it. It's watering it down. The developers already explained how it was difficult to implement as well. Could it be implement? Possibly? Should it? No, I don't think they should.
I can totally understand why some people might be offended by the overly graphic presentation of human sexuality, especially in a video game which is not a dating simulator. The sexual act is viewed by many people as one of complete intimacy and not something that should be shared with other people or viewed by a gamer. (I just thought of that line from some Leonard Cohen song: "I want to see you naked in your body and your mind". I actually really dislike that song and want to b--slap Leonard Cohen everytime I hear it).
--------------------------------------------------------------
There is another winkle on the whole issue of overly graphic or explicit content. In story telling in general and in the visual media as in movies, often times less is more. You don't need to be graphic to convey emotion or tension, and overly explicit or graphic portrayals can destroy or cheapen whatever it is the writer or artist was attempting to convey. A lot of the old classic movies were really good at this. Limited by the censor ship rules these movies were able to add a depth of tension and emotion and even a greater sense of realism that newer more graphic movies can't. A good example of this might be the difference between the original movie of "Cape Fear" in 1961 and the remake in 1991 starring Robert DeNiro. Youtube is split on this but really Robert Mitchum's take on Max Cady was so much more subtle and terrifying while DeNiro was almost cartoonish in his portrayal. The 1991 version is definitly more graphic.
Couldn't find a decent cut from the old movie:
1991 version
Of course I am old and weird. I can't stand the Reservoir Dogs' director's movies and of all the Clint Eastwood western movies, I consider his own "Unforgiven" far better than the more popular Sergio Leone movies (Fist Full of Dollars etc.) I do enjoy the Leone movies just not as much.
The only one that gets it watered down is the one using the Toggle, and I support the idea.
So basically, it's a lose-lose situation for everyone. People who want the toggle gets less contents because they played an M rated game without wanting it to be M rated, and people who want the game to stay as it is get less contents because the developers have to dedicate resources and time on it. Sound like a pretty good reason not to have it then.
I am against this idea. I hate to echo the point, but if one is offended by a game, then one should simply not play it. Now, I mean no offense to the OP. He's not calling for censorship, just asking for a filter. I do not, however, believe that resources should be, in my opinion, wasted on such a thing. Any time spent on a filter to make an M rated game more "acceptable" to other audiences who may or may not be old enough to be playing said game in this first place is a waste. That is time that could be spent on fixing bugs, working out game features, making the net code for multiplayer better than it was in ME3, or, of course, making an ending to the game that won't make long time fans rip their own hair out in rage and disgust.
That being said, I do not mean to imply that everyone who wants a filter is someone underage. There are likely adults who want such a thing too. Regardless, I maintain that such a thing is a blatant waste of resources. Again, if you find a piece of media offensive, then do not consume it. Your particular worldview being somehow violated by someone's work is not cause for censorship, nor even the diversion of resources. I believe that Bioware can make a great game, but not if their time is wasted on things like this.
"Oh, these pacifists are offended by blood. Let's make a filter so we don't bother them!"
"Oh, no, feminists are offended by sex! Let's spend time and money making a filter for that."
"Oh, no! Christian conservatives don't like the interspecies/homosexual sex! Better make a filter."
"Ok, guys, our deadline is here. What do we have done?"
"Well, we have filters to ensure that no one is offended by anything, ever."
"What about gameplay?"
"Buggy as hell. Never had time to fix it."
"What about plot?"
"Unfinished. Had to make filters first."
Coming soon to a galaxy near you, Mass Effect:Hugbox!
Again, I mean no derision to the OP, I simply want to make the point that filters take important time away from the development of other, far more important things. Someone made a point about the profanity filter on Brutal Legend. Recall, if you will, how that game had two acts where it should have had three. Recall also how a sequel was cancelled. I'm not saying a filter kille dthat game, but it was time wasted on something pointless.
In conclusion, the harsh truth is, if one does not like a piece of media, one should not consume it. Asking to censor it or getting devs to waste time on a filter for it to avoid offending anybody is rather selfish and take money resources away from making the best experience possible for people who can deal with it.
So basically, it's a lose-lose situation for everyone. People who want the toggle gets less contents because they played an M rated game without wanting it to be M rated, and people who want the game to stay as it is get less contents because the developers have to dedicate resources and time on it. Sound like a pretty good reason not to have it then.
And again, given that everybody here acknowledges that M rated videogame content comes in many different forms and that we all react to it in many different ways, your call for a mature content filter that allows players to censor those parts of the game that are problematic to them is totally unrealistic.
Totally. Unrealistic.
It's OK with me, as I also use gameplay that includes Dragons, magic, and talking lizards; not 'problematic' at all.
Just remove the sexy time stuff - it sucks. Especially the human-alien sexy time nonsense.
Am willing to donate Bottles of Thedas to the cause....
Bioware games are already filled with content that many never utilize, be it Romances, quests, Specializations, abilities, etc. I support this Toggle, as I would use it.
Nah, you mean Bioware games already filled with content that you don't use, so let's add a toggle to filter out more content you don't use. You don't know how many use those contents, so you can't say "many", which in itself is a strong statement, unless you have the data.
Retour en haut