The only one that gets it watered down is the one using the Toggle, and I support the idea.
And you don't think there is *any* situation in which the writers would have to change the content and structure of a scene altogether in order to make your toggle useable? Seriously?
And what is desired are some facts for the Devs to study to indicate a lack of market, lack of profit, etc; not only opinions. While it is Bioware's game to make, there may be a clientele available. Other content is created for specific groups and opinions; this might be another worth including, too.
I think you're severely overestimating the existence of this market. Before market research even begins, there should be some evidence indicating that this is a path worth exploring.
And this is probably the most niche request I've seen on the Bioware forums, both in terms of fan and dev support. It'd be better to offer some evidence of said market's existence, rather than simply saying "It could be out there!". As it stands, you have someone with actual game development experience indicating to you that at present, what research there is doesn't indicate this feature would do well.
That in no way answers my question. Again - and this for the forth time - given that everybody here acknowledges that M rated videogame content comes in many different forms and that we all react to it in many different ways, how exactly do you figure BioWare go about introducing a toggle for those people who simply cannot abide by a little mature content in their M rated videogame?
Serious question.
I think you're severely overestimating the existence of this market. Before market research even begins, there should be some evidence indicating that this is a path worth exploring.
And this is probably the most niche request I've seen on the Bioware forums, both in terms of fan and dev support. It'd be better to offer some evidence of said market's existence, rather than simply saying "It could be out there!". As it stands, you have someone with actual game development experience indicating to you that at present, what research there is doesn't indicate this feature would do well.
Cannot say I have murdered anyone in the ME or DA series; not my usual style of RP. Killed a lot of opposition defending myself and Earth/ Thedas, but not murder.
That doesn't really matter. The point is that you're killing dozens if not hundreds of people to accomplish a mission. My archer assassin Trevelyan sniped so many people before they even had a chance to fight back. Violence and death is an inextricable part of the character's life, and yet the parts that are positively benign by comparison (or altogether) are the things that offend people XD
That doesn't really matter. The point is that you're killing dozens if not hundreds of people to accomplish a mission. My archer assassin Trevelyan sniped so many people before they even had a chance to fight back. Violence and death is an inextricable part of the character's life, and yet the parts that are positively benign by comparison (or altogether) are the things that offend people XD
Being one that prefers actual romance to watching pixelated nudity and sex, benign may be another difference of opinion. Aveline and Scout Harding are wonderful examples of this, though the former one breaks my heart.
It is relatively benign though, unless you're insane. Killing and death is objectively worse than someone swearing or lying around naked talking about something pleasant with a person they care about.
That doesn't really matter. The point is that you're killing dozens if not hundreds of people to accomplish a mission. My archer assassin Trevelyan sniped so many people before they even had a chance to fight back. Violence and death is an inextricable part of the character's life, and yet the parts that are positively benign by comparison (or altogether) are the things that offend people XD
In my experience so far, it kinda goes in the other direction in Europe. Violence is treated more harshly than sexual themes when video games are being rated. Cultural difference I guess.
It is relatively benign though, unless you're insane. Killing and death is objectively worse than someone swearing or lying around naked talking about something pleasant with a person they care about.
Am killing pixels; the swearing is directed at the Player.
So - just so we have you right here - are you claiming that videogame sex and profanity is vulgar but videogame violence isn't?
Am killing pixels; the swearing is directed at the Player.
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Everything in the game is directed at the player, be it a sex scene, swearing, or brutal violence. It's all a presentation of the product for you to consume and digest. So when you spill that NPC's guts because he looked at you cockeyed, or blow that merc's brains out because Renegades gotta Renegade, it's all for you. And unlike swearing, sex and nudity, it offers it in bucket loads, and is virtually impossible to avoid.
Elhanan, may I recommend you read The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of La Mancha? It might give you some perspective.
So - just so we have you right here - are you saying that virtual videogame sex is vulgar but virtual videogame killing isn't?
In my experience so far, it kinda goes in the other direction in Europe. Violence is treated more harshly than sexual themes when video games are being rated. Cultural difference I guess.
Really? I wasn't even aware of this and I live in Italy! Try to visit my country and you'll change your mind
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Everything in the game is directed at the player, be it a sex scene, swearing, or brutal violence. It's all a presentation of the product for you to consume and digest. So when you spill that NPC's guts because he looked at you cockeyed, or blow that merc's brains out because Renegades gotta Renegade, it's all for you. And unlike swearing, sex and nudity, it offers it in bucket loads, and is virtually impossible to avoid.
Pixelated nudity and sex is unnecessary, undesirable, and often crude. Virtual violence can also be crude. Pass on both materials based on the game.
Why then, in response to KaiserShep post about videogame violence, did you roll out that 'I am killing pixels - the swearing is directed at the player' line? In any case, given that it now appears you are calling for a toggle that removes profanity, nudity and violence from ME:A, I really must ask again whether it's time for you to add Mass Effect to the list of those fine games that just aren't for you?
Because he's inconsistent, irrational and has no actual arguments. At least, none beyond his transparent attempts of conjuring them out of "maybe".
Pixelated nudity and sex is unnecessary, undesirable, and often crude. Virtual violence can also be crude. Pass on both materials based on the game.
With Bioware games, I am able to reduce Gore, restrict most nudity and sex to Romance arcs, and hopefully will gain a Toggle for language.
It requires too much work and the reward for this effort would be non-existent.
Why then, in response to KaiserShep post about videogame violence, did you roll out that 'I am killing pixels - the swearing is directed at the player' line? In any case, given that it now appears you are calling for a toggle that removes profanity, nudity and violence from ME:A, I really must ask again whether it's time for you to add Mass Effect to the list of those fine games that just aren't for you?
It requires too much work and the reward for this effort would be non-existent.
It has been; am not a fan of ME2. But ME3 was compartmentalized enough to avoid most objectionable material. Because of this, ME:A will be researched like other titles before purchase, like what has been done for many games.
Splendid. May I humbly suggest that your search start at the ESRB Ratings Guide?
It has been; am not a fan of ME2. But ME3 was compartmentalized enough to avoid most objectionable material. Because of this, ME:A will be researched like other titles before purchase, like what has been done for many games.
Could I ask respectfully then why you are trying to influence the development of a game that is practically on your 'no play' list when, I would suggest, the majority of us on this thread play or have played through all three games probably more than once?
Its 'objectionable material' (which I need to re-state is as subjective as the OP's 'explicit') is a fundamental element in the universe the game creates...
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