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[RUDAL]

As much as a man can know another man who is a reclusive Polish fantasy writer that he's never met or personally interacted with on any level.

My question should be "have you met Sapkowski in person?" Bad wording, sorry. 

[izmirtheastarach]

3. What is the value to Bio?

At least one gentlemen will appreciate it. I'm not sure what value a multi-billion dollar game company places on the value of a single consumer, but I'd have to guess it's not a lot.

[Suketchi]

RE romance, there is such a thing as fade-to-black as well as other ways of designing and framing love scenes that would not need to include full-on nudity. In role-play, I'd rather those parts were left to my imagination, anyway.

 

That's true. There are a lot of ways to design those scenes where full nudity isn't shown, and I wouldn't mind if they did. I've never really had a problem with how they've handled romance scenes... as long as they don't do the underwear thing anyways, that was awkward in Origins XD 

 

I was mainly thinking that if the OP didn't actually want them to change content, and the only way I could think of toggling nudity was maybe to put a filter over the characters bodies like in sims or something... and that would probably be complicated. 

[Kappa Neko]

I don't quite understand why many here suggest OP play something else if they don't like certain content. Well, if they like 90% of the game, why would they? I didn't like the headshot animation in ME3 one bit and never quite got used to it (I have a blood phobia). So yes, I would like a toggle for that. Others think nothing of gore. I enjoyed the game fine as it was, I never felt like quitting because of things I didn't like. OP stated that they enjoy Bioware games just fine. Fortunately they aren't 90% gore and nudity.

I think it's fine to ask for a toggle. OP simply stated what they didn't like and what would make their game experience better. Just like everyone else. This isn't in any way worse than all the other requests. Bioware will implement what they (and EA) deem most profitable anyway. Which will  most likely not be a nudity toggle.

 

No harm in asking though.

 

Now, how do I get Nibbler from Futurama into ME:A? I want it to be my main weapon against... anything. No gore though, please.

[Il Divo]

I think people would be shocked at the level of profanity in even seemingly highly reputable professions. Plus, swearing is fun.

 

For emphasis, this. ^

[CuriousArtemis]

I didn't like the headshot animation in ME3 one bit and never quite got used to it (I have a blood phobia). So yes, I would like a toggle for that. Others think nothing of gore. I enjoyed the game fine as it was, I never felt like quitting because of things I didn't like. OP stated that they enjoy Bioware games just fine. Fortunately they aren't 90% gore and nudity.

 

It is funny what will turn a person off! Personally I hate killing animals in video games, like wolves in Dragon's Dogma and Skyrim (they whine when they die) and dragons, yes, the dragons, in DAI, especially the ones with children. (The animations of the dragons are so animal-like they tug at my heart... they remind me of cats).

[FKA_Servo]

As ever, I think they should do what they want to do. I continue to regard toggles as universally unnecessary, but players should have the option to bypass content if they wish, whether it's by skipping cutscenes or flat-out skipping on characters or quests. I don't want them bowdlerizing anything, though, personally.

 

This is all academic, though. Games are just gonna get saltier.

[Sartoz]

At least one gentlemen will appreciate it. I'm not sure what value a multi-billion dollar game company places on the value of a single consumer, but I'd have to guess it's not a lot.

 

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LOL.

 

I believe the question "3. What is the value to Bio?" is the content request that if implement can turn sales off.  For example, certain countries with large populations have strict moral codes that will disallow entry of a product of questionable/promotional activities in the game.

 

Investors are a grouchy lot.

[Suketchi]

                                        

On gore

Interesting that violence and killings is acceptable but gore is distasteful. The first two should be distasteful as well. Placing a veil over one's eyes to hide the deed somehow makes the deed "cleaner"? 

 

For some (I can't speak for the OP, I guess they might just find it offensive), it's a physical reaction. It has nothing to do with morals, or a 'clean deed'. The blood and gore just makes you feel ill. Something like being sea-sick, or car-sick. 

[NWN-Ming-Ming]

I get where the OP is coming from but I disagree with the overall request.

 

It's like that Christian company that was taking rated R and PG-13 DVDS and editing them down to G-rated content. It's like putting fig leaves over Michaelangelo's David or pasties over the Venus De Milo. Granted ME is consumer art as opposed to Classical art, but the context of editing art for morality's sake is still de facto censorship. It's taking the creative endeavor of an artist and deciding what is and isn't needed for the viewing experience to be meaningful.

 

Ultimately I think that perhaps these games are not for the OP, despite their stated enjoyment of the setting, their inclination to sanitize simple things such nudity or violence rather than come to a mature understanding of the nature of human existence leads me to believe they are being unrealistically selective. How do they bathe or shower without seeing nudity? What about locker rooms and gym showers? Do they tell other people to cover up? How do they accommodate the presence of eating meat; of police officers, soldiers, or the nightly news without accepting the implicit violence of the natural world and the human world?

 

As an adult in the modern world, you can't stick your head in an ostrich hole or selectively pretend that bodily functions exist at one moment and don't in another moment. You learn to deal with it and get past things. Asking other people to compensate for your own self-embraced shortcomings is just self-centered and oblivious. If you really like the games then play them and get past the parts that embarrass you or make you queasy. Or simply stop playing.

 

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[Sartoz]

In her character thread people mentioned  the camera could've been placed at different angles to avoid showing certain body parts. Another comment was having femshep taking her clothes off as she walked to the shower and then it goes to fade-to-black.

 

There are mods that have the clothes removed. Never used the mod since I play on ps3

 

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Hmm...

 

ME:A = next gen

You = PS3

 

result = ????

[themikefest]

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Hmm...

 

ME:A = next gen

You = PS3

 

result = ????

Hmm.

 

Mass Effect trilogy on ps3

 

Mass Effect Andromeda on ps4/xone/pc.

 

Game releases late 2016. Its now summer of 2015. Plenty of time to get a ps4. Will have ps4 when the Uncharted trilogy is released in October

 

result - will be playing MEA on ps4 when it comes out

 

I don't see a problem

[Iakus]

 

So teens should play games about rapes, suicides, drug abuses, and violence with blood in it?

Most teen games have to censor out the blood, that's strangely make a difference. In T-rated games, when they get impaled, no blood is being shown. Violence is T-rated, foul languages, touchy subjects, blood are what make it M-rated. I'm not sure what you're arguing about here. There is a standard being set about what being considered Mature, and it's not what you or I consider, but what the ratings board consider, and the threshold is usually lower. Moreover, we are so desentisized to what being considered mature due to the market being oversaturated with them. Back in the day, it would be a huge deal to see the kind of stuffs we see today.

 

I'm talking about an M rated game that manages not to have blood, gore, and graphic nudity, and such.  Such things are not needed in an M rated game.  Gratuitous blood and sex isn't necessary just because "it's an M rated game"

[Iakus]

 

Nudity: Keep it exclusive to romances. And even then, have some romances that don't have it, whether it be fade to black, clever use of camera angles and shadows, or romances that are ambiguous over whether such acts even occurred. 

 

Several Dragon Age and Mass Effect romances have had the sex be optional to the romance.  In ME1, at least, Shepard could turn down Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan and the romance still locks in.

[Dr. Rush]

I'm sorry, you can't ask for choice of how this content is supposed to be experienced. It is the creator's job to determine the experience the audience is supposed to have. You can't just have a toggle for what kind of experience you want to have and flip it on or off. 

 

You can have a toggle for helmets or UI, but you can't have a toggle for major themes and storytelling vehicles like violence and sexuality. 

[dreamgazer]

Can we have toggle switches for extreme gore and enhanced "sex appeal"?

[Nethershadow]

Stuff.

I can understand what you're asking for and why, but at the same time I have to question it because of what the base material encompasses.

 

Since this is a shooter game where you kill people, aliens ext, over and over and over again, and in many different ways, I would think that if your mature enough to handle those aspects then the other parts are just authors stylistic tastes.

 

If I think my boy is ready for actions movies where there is lots of death via the protagonist killing lots of people, then I feel he should be ready to see that it's not necessarily a peaceful end for these people. Like Blackhawk Down.

 

So bottom line for me is, if the devs can put those filters in with very little time / resource requirements to do so, then I am all for it. But if it takes a bit of time that they could have used to finish off other aspects then I would be against it.

[izmirtheastarach]

Can we have toggle switches for extreme gore and enhanced "sex appeal"?

Underwear toggle hotkey. Active during cutscenes. Pop it on, pop it off.

[Iakus]

I'm sorry, you can't ask for choice of how this content is supposed to be experienced. It is the creator's job to determine the experience the audience is supposed to have. You can't just have a toggle for what kind of experience you want to have and flip it on or off. 

 

You can have a toggle for helmets or UI, but you can't have a toggle for major themes and storytelling vehicles like violence and sexuality. 

I guess DAO and DA2 was doing it wrong then with their gore toggles...

[Battlebloodmage]

I'm talking about an M rated game that manages not to have blood, gore, and graphic nudity, and such.  Such things are not needed in an M rated game.  Gratuitous blood and sex isn't necessary just because "it's an M rated game"

But the games you did describe have blood in it, on top of touchy subjects like rapes which deem to be a controversal subject even for an M rated game. Can games get a M rated without those? Yes, but ME is not one of those games nor should it be.

[Cknarf]

I want:

Brutal disembowelment.

Excessive expletives.

And boob jiggle.

Floppin' tittays in ME:A or I'm not buying it!

I'm not talkin' like, Japan levels of boob jiggle, but give us something!

Especially if we're givin' some green chick from another galaxy a total harshin'. There has to be at least a little bit of boob jiggle.

[Battlebloodmage]

I want:

Brutal disembowelment.

Excessive expletives.

And boob jiggle.

Floppin' tittays in ME:A or I'm not buying it!

I'm not talkin' like, Japan levels of boob jiggle, but give us something!

Especially if we're givin' some green chick from another galaxy a total harshin'. There has to be at least a little bit of boob jiggle.

Only if we can see penis jiggling around also. 

[Iakus]

But the games you did describe have blood in it, on top of touchy subjects like rapes which deem to be a controversal subject even for an M rated game. Can games get a M rated without those? Yes, but ME is not one of those games nor should it be.

Blood, yes.

 

But not a single asploding head that I saw.  No Ludicrous Gibs.  No fountains of blood.  

[elinema]

I personally feel like we should just make them change the whole story: You, Shepard, come from a family of farmers. You decide to do something else than your family, which forms a lot of controversy in your family, but you end up doing what you want to do: You become a teacher. Your mission is to teach children how to plant flowers, when an old synthetic race, the Reapers, come and try to plant more trees instead of flowers, you decide to bake them a cake in form of a flower with the children. The Reapers decide to bake you little tree cookies every Hanukkah from that day on and you get married to one of them after a ten year engagement. No sex before marriage though, that would be terribly crude.

[FKA_Servo]

But not a single asploding head that I saw.  No Ludicrous Gibs.  No fountains of blood.  

 

This I could do without, truthfully.

 

Not because I'm offended or squeamish. Mostly, it's just cartoonish and dumb.