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An Open Letter to Bioware Regarding Explicit Content


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#1826
DaemionMoadrin

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Is still Ignored, as are some others.

 

Yeah, that's how you hold discussions... ignore everyone and everything that doesn't agree with you.

 

That's the reason why this thread is still active... there is no end if half the posts end up in nirvana. :P

 

What "previous dialogue controls" are you talking about?

 

On the off chance that you do read my posts, could you answer this one please?


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Elhanan

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So references to acts of sexual violence are absolutely fine by you if they are framed poetically?

Begs the question: how do you feel about dirty limericks Elhanan?


There once was a Lady named Syph,
who gave her poor sweetheart a kyth.
The very next day, she said, "Pwease go away!"
"You gave me a code where I sniff."

:D

But since I do not care for most current forms of so-called comedy, I also pass on dirty limericks.
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#1828
DaemionMoadrin

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Ah, Elhanan... are you back in your mod phase?

 

http://forum.bioware...616-raenimrahl/

 

Don't forget... reporting people doesn't actually mean you're moderating this forum. ;)


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The OPs request was to have the option to have the moon on a stick - a phrase chosen because of this:

 

*snip*

Ah, well that saves me re-producing the entirety of the sketch to labour your point.   :D  I would know all the sketches by heart though, for I am powered by weak lemon drink!


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#1830
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Writers often manage to get crap past the radar, it's amazing what you can find even in kid/teen friendly media... so I don't really see them having a motivation to even consider a toggle.

 

 

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Actually, I found this out when I was over at an ex's house and was flipping through channels and came across a cartoon.  We got to talking about it and she pointed out to me that the conversation that they were having could have just as easily been about sex.  


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#1831
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Ah, Elhanan... are you back in your mod phase?

http://forum.bioware...616-raenimrahl/

Don't forget... reporting people doesn't actually mean you're moderating this form. ;)

Perfect Moadrin.

+10.

Elhanan? (If that is what you are going by today)

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May take some work, but perhaps the filter will be worth it for Bioware and the players.

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May take some work, but perhaps the filter will be worth it for Bioware and the players.

 

Why would it be worth it for Bioware?



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Elhanan is the best troll on Bioware. He soloed the all the members on this thread for over 70 pages. 


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Elhanan is the best troll on Bioware. He soloed the all the members on this thread for over 70 pages. 

 

While he may certainly be a troll, I don't doubt that there are members on this board who actually agree with him.

 

Besides, it's exercise for our brains and it's fun in a deluded sort of way. :D 


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Why would it be worth it for Bioware?


If there is another market that could be attracted to the games due to such a feature, as it seemingly happened for GoW.

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If there is another market that could be attracted to the games due to such a feature, as it seemingly happened for GoW.

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If there is another market that could be attracted to the games due to such a feature, as it seemingly happened for GoW.

 probably not enough to outweigh the cost.

 

 

 

That's why there's T for Teen and E for Everyone. Go play some of those.


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How is this topic still alive... they wont listen to you plead

 

They love the explicitness of the games and lets not forget the Asari

 

If they have to pick between BSN babies or an Asari, You know who will win

 

AB9H9l.jpg       I WIN



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I think the M1E love scenes were tastefully done, certainly have no complaints about that (and yes, there's always room for more Asari) , but when it comes to gore or bad language, I'm all for getting rid of as much of that as possible, there's nothing good about any of that.  If they could at least do a toggle for that sort of thing, I'd definitely be all for it.


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#1841
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probably not enough to outweigh the cost. 
 
That's why there's T for Teen and E for Everyone. Go play some of those.


And I quote from the article:

..."Yes, in our minds the game is a better experience without filtering but it's still a great game with filtering turned on," he said. "And, at the end of the day, if these types of filters mean that a larger number of players get to experience our game then it is certainly worth the effort...."


Will not know the cost effectiveness unless Bioware / EA conducts research. Until, I support the filters and OP.

Also, suggest those taking the recent survey from Origin about games to recommend the filter ne used on future titles.

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And I quote from the article:


Will not know the cost effectiveness unless Bioware / EA conducts research. Until, I support the filters and OP.

Also, suggest those taking the recent survey from Origin about games to recommend the filter ne used on future titles.

 And I quote from myself: There's T for Teen and E for Everyone. Go play some of those. 

 

 

Couldn't care less about any internet survey. We are but a modicum of the community that plays the game.



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..."Yes, in our minds the game is a better experience without filtering but it's still a great game with filtering turned on," he said. "And, at the end of the day, if these types of filters mean that a larger number of players get to experience our game then it is certainly worth the effort...."

I am going to bold the key word in that quote.

 

Gears of War was also made on the Unreal Engine,

Unreal Engine is made by Epic.

Epic made Gears of War.

Most of Epic's money comes from Licensing Unreal Engine

What sells Engines? Features.

What is this toggle? A feature.

 

/my 2 cents


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I am going to bold the key word in that quote.
 
Gears of War was also made on the Unreal Engine,
Unreal Engine is made by Epic.
Epic made Gears of War.
Most of Epic's money comes from Licensing Unreal Engine
What sells Engines? Features.
What is this toggle? A feature.
 
/my 2 cents


Am willing to have Bioware/ EA make the needed study to see if this can be added to other engines. The current one did not used to have horses and other multi-legged creatures until someone made them; believe this feature deserves the chance.

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Am willing to have Bioware/ EA make the needed study to see if this can be added to other engines. The current one did not used to have horses and other multi-legged creatures until someone made them; believe this feature deserves the chance.

I doubt such a survey will exist, once again it is not a free thing. There needs to be at least some significant foundation for the question to be raised. Would you care to start a straw poll?

 

Horses existed in Dragon Age Inquisition had at least something to be based upon, and that was Dawn of the Seeker.


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I doubt such a survey will exist, once again it is not a free thing. There needs to be at least some significant foundation for the question to be raised. Would you care to start a straw poll?
 
Horses existed in Dragon Age Inquisition had at least something to be based upon, and that was Dawn of the Seeker.


There is a current survey from Origin that I mentioned the possible feature. And have no idea what Dawn of the Seeker did for horses, but DAO had a lack of profanity and is still held in great regard by many gamers. A Toggle could possibly restore part of that experience for those using a filter.

No straw poll, as stats can be made to dance by whomever. And I do not mind being in the minority if that is the case; does not equate to being wrong or incorrect. But it would be rather sad if the idea was shrugged away by opinion; not objective research and study.

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Am willing to have Bioware/ EA make the needed study to see if this can be added to other engines. The current one did not used to have horses and other multi-legged creatures until someone made them; believe this feature deserves the chance.

 

The addition of mounts is very different from something like a content filter. The former adds to the gameplay and possibly some story content, while the latter adds to neither, since it's only meant to remove key words, while ultimately leaving the meaning of the dialogue largely intact. The same is true for filtering gore. The targets are still dead as dead can be; they just don't leave a mess anymore. The only "addition" to this game is how palatable this ends up being for people who are particularly sensitive to said key words and effects of fictional violence.



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The addition of mounts is very different from something like a content filter. The former adds to the gameplay and possibly some story content, while the latter adds to neither, since it's only meant to remove key words, while ultimately leaving the meaning of the dialogue largely intact. The same is true for filtering gore. The targets are still dead as dead can be; they just don't leave a mess anymore. The only "addition" to this game is how palatable this ends up being for people who are particularly sensitive to said key words and effects of fictional violence.


Gaining a wider audience appears to be a decent incentive to look into it. Also hope that mounted combat will evolve next; am guessing it was not all that easy to get them in the first place.

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There is a current survey from Origin that I mentioned the possible feature. And have no idea what Dawn of the Seeker did for horses, but DAO had a lack of profanity and is still held in great regard by many gamers. A Toggle could possibly restore part of that experience for those using a filter.

No straw poll, as stats can be made to dance by whomever. And I do not mind being in the minority if that is the case; does not equate to being wrong or incorrect. But it would be rather sad if the idea was shrugged away by opinion; not objective research and study.

 

You are fine doing a "write in" campaign what I am saying is I doubt you will see a survey of "should we do this y/n". As for what Dawn of Seekers did for Horses, that was the first time for Dragon Age IP that horses were a part of the the franchise. I never stated you were incorrect, I am stating that the resources and the potential gains (in my opinion) are not worth it. 

 

My opinion in this thread, is there is not too many people that support this thing based on the arguments that are had. I could objectively see how many in this thread said yes and how many said no. The difference is based on my opinion I would not pursue that action because if there was a majority for it, my opinion would be swayed to that of yes. The "punishment" for doing this objective search is that I would have used my time (aka resources). So if you wish to make the argument otherwise then you are claiming my opinion has a bias, which would be an entirely different statement.

 

You cant say "people loved X and X didnt contain Y, Y would be a step in the right direction to restore it" if that was the case people could argue that GTA should go back to a top down view because people remember GTA2 so fondly. (I think there was an xkcd post that illustrates this about a page back). Causation does not equal correlation 


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#1850
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Gaining a wider audience appears to be a decent incentive to look into it. Also hope that mounted combat will evolve next; am guessing it was not all that easy to get them in the first place.


I don't think the margin would be enough to be beneficial though. Specially if they cut contents to fund this feature.