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Should BioWare make the move to "T for Teen" with Andromeda?


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Nudity, sex, profanity, and excessive violence seem to be sore spots with a segment of this fanbase for a number of different reasons.  What better way to restrain these things, and open up new revenue opportunities, than to aim for a T rating as a benchmark for any and all content? BioWare's already gone back in that direction with Star Wars: The Old Republic, after all.
 
Would you be bothered by this? Why or why not? Do the things you enjoy about Mass Effect demand a MATURE rating?



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Well, KotOR is my favorite Bioware game and that was rated Teen. But then, that's probably in spite of the game's rating rather than because of it.

 

I do like the tongue in cheek approach to your wording, Dream. 


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Shuddup dreamguy, if they take your suggestion to heart, they'll turn our beloved exploding meatbag mooks into glitter pinatas like the Destiny baddies.


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Does it mean I can get even more sexualization?
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I'd support your thread if I didn't know it was just you mocking people. 


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I'd support your thread if I didn't know it was just you mocking people. 

 

It's a discussion worth having, actually.  

 

Can Mass Effect survive without the things that earn it an M-rating currently, since there seems to be a demand for it?


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I just want the game to be well done.  


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Does it mean I can get even more sexualization?

 

Probably wouldn't get too much less.  I present, from a T-rated game:

 

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I would be opposed to ME:A having it's content tailored to fit a T rating.  I really think the series works the best, warts/breasts/words and all, with that rating.  It gives the ME team some freedom over how explicit or mild they want their content, without worrying about possibly violating a T rating.  They can push the limits as far as they are comfortable with, and keep other aspects of the story tamer.  I would prefer them to keep it that way, but I'm not going to rage if they decide to lower the rating in future ME games.     :)


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I'm going to start with a simple, easy one. 

 

No.


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I mean DA:I was already pretty sanitized in comparison to Origins or 2.

Perhaps this is the next logical step.
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Yes.

 

How can I concentrate on the combat with dem banshee ****** flopping around?

 

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It's a discussion worth having, actually.  

 

Can Mass Effect survive without the things that earn it an M-rating currently, since there seems to be a demand for it?

In that case, yes it absolutely can.

Mass Effect is heralded most for its good story, great characters, and fun gameplay. You can achieve all that in a rated T game. 


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Give us mod tools and I don't care what the game's rating is.


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Probably wouldn't get too much less.  I present, from a T-rated game:
 
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so less tasteful nudity such as from Cassandra's romance, but more physics defying cleavage?

Sign me up
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I'm going to start with a simple, easy one. 

 

No.

 

Why's that?



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Give us mod tools and I don't care what the game's rating is.

You can't seriously expect them to go back to being mod friendly at this point can you?

I mean you're a smart guy.

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Give us mod tools and I don't care what the game's rating is.

 

Rated E for Everyone = ripe for a nude with anatomically correct genitalia mod.


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In that case, yes it absolutely can.

Mass Effect is heralded most for its good story, great characters, and fun gameplay. You can achieve all that in a rated T game. 

 

I'm going to push this a step further: you can achieve all this in an E rated game as well. 



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like caesar said....NO!


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You can't seriously expect them to go back to being mod friendly at this point can you?

I mean you're a smart guy.

Whether I expect it is irrelevant.

 

I want the lack of mod friendliness to be at the top of every player's mind all of the time.  The only way to get EA to support mods is to get the market to demand that support.


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Alright, now I'm going to go into a little more detail as to why the move to Teen is bad.

 

Science Fiction, Fantasy, and RPGs are saddled with the perception by the general public of being "lesser" genres. They're not serious art, they're too fantastical, they're for children. However objectively untrue these perceptions are, they continue to persist. 

 

Mass Effect is important because it is a serious, mostly intelligent(though by no means perfect) science fiction series that is decidedly for adults. The series contains adult content, tackles adult themes, centers around adult characters.

 

This is a series for grown ups.

 

Moving the rating to T will not only water down and dilute the content and quality of the series, but it will be a step backwards for the genre. It will be Bioware saying, "we tried an adult sci fi series and it didn't work out. It was a mistake, and now we're going to start aiming for the younger audience this genre is really for."


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Mass Effect is heralded most for its good story, great characters, and fun gameplay. You can achieve all that in a rated T game. 

 

Which has operated under the M-rating thus far and included moments of excessive violence (probably no pushing mercs out of windows or electrocuting mercs working on ships) and highly-suggestive sexual rendezvous, all of which have been at least partially interactive. 

 

This would also likely impact the incorporation of decisions like the Virmire choice and the Ascension-human dilemma, since you're directly involved in the sacrifice of lives ... something that would get parents bent out of shape about considering the more youth-friendly rating. 



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I know this thread is a joke... but... let's stick with the M rating please.


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Which has operated under the M-rating thus far and included moments of excessive violence (probably no pushing mercs out of windows or electrocuting mercs working on ships) and highly-suggestive sexual rendezvous, all of which have been at least partially interactive. 

 

This would also likely impact the incorporation of decisions like the Virmire choice and the Ascension-human dilemma, since you're directly involved in the sacrifice of lives ... something that would get parents bent out of shape about considering the more youth-friendly rating. 

 

Jokes aside (I have no interest in a T rated ME game), would this sort of thing affect Virmire? Again, let's look at KotOR. T rating and your character can be a malevolently evil psychopath. Virmire doesn't strike me as worse than that. 


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