...until DA:I, which had topless and bottomless scenes. Like I said - now that romance fanatics have gotten a taste of nudity, there's no going back.
Actually there is. Some romances can end in the nudity others, like the one with Samara, can imply a connection without ever getting to the point where clothing comes off.
Gotta agree with Jimmy here. I can only imagine the flood of "Why didn't we get to see them boobies? DAI DID IT" threads when Andromeda's released, considering the maturity/nudity discussions that filled the Inquisition forum prior to release.
Here's a twenty-page thread purely about the ESRB reveal: http://forum.bioware...uisition/page-1
Nope, because i wouldn't want to them to have to write a tame story just in order to satisfy the censorship board. If Teens want games they have plenty of options to chose from, they don't need one more, especially one that deals with so many adult themes.
...until DA:I, which had topless and bottomless scenes. Like I said - now that romance fanatics have gotten a taste of
nudityreasonable, realistic displays of love, there's no going back.
Nope, because i wouldn't want to them to have to write a tame story just in order to satisfy the censorship board. If Teens want games they have plenty of options to chose from, they don't need one more, especially one that deals with so many adult themes.
Gotta agree with Jimmy here. I can only imagine the flood of "Why didn't we get to see them boobies? DAI DID IT" threads when Andromeda's released, considering the maturity/nudity discussions that filled the Inquisition forum prior to release.
Here's a twenty-page thread purely about the ESRB reveal: http://forum.bioware...uisition/page-1
That already happened when TW1 showed boobies. It got worse when TW2 showed boobies. Bioware's following a trend here, but they didn't start it.
To be fair, I can't imagine anyone wanted them to adopt TW1's approach, unless we're going for unintentional humor.
That already happened when TW1 showed boobies. It got worse when TW2 showed boobies. Bioware's following a trend here, but they didn't start it.
Quite a feat considering TW1 was released before either Mass Effect or DA: Origins.
To be fair, I can't imagine anyone wanted them to adopt TW1's approach, unless we're going for unintentional humor.
Hey, are you dissing "Shag Pokemon"? Gotta catch 'em all!
That already happened when TW1 showed boobies. It got worse when TW2 showed boobies. Bioware's following a trend here, but they didn't start it.
Indeed, but they rang a bell with Inquisition that they cannot unring. That game changed the internal BioWare conversation.
Hey, are you dissing "Shag Pokemon"? Gotta catch 'em all!
It's not often a game does something that makes me embarrassed on its behalf, is all.
It's not often a game does something that makes me embarrassed on its behalf, is all.
I've got the physical deluxe edition ... with the art book 
As long as they can produce a fun and good game, I don't care what the rating is.
Hey, are you dissing "Shag Pokemon"? Gotta catch 'em all!
There are people who would complain, but I don't see much sign that Bioware would care.
After all, after including nudity in ME1 they had no nudity for 3 games.
Quite a feat considering TW1 was released before either Mass Effect or DA: Origins.
Indeed, but they rang a bell with Inquisition that they cannot unring. That game changed the internal BioWare conversation.
Underwear sex is 
They could make the "sex" scenes a bit more erotic, teasing the player. 50 Shades of Mass Effect!
Including varren STDs!
Geralt is immune... Witcher thing. 
ME1 had side boob. If a silhouette is nudity, then every James Bond movie intro is straight porn.
It's nudity if you've not got clothes on.
Probably wouldn't get too much less. I present, from a T-rated game:
Wait a moment, a game about Goddamn Batman got a Teen rating?
I think it is the exact opposite - video games allow for a different level of immersion than passive mediums like movies or books. There, you observe two characters interact and its fine to watch that happen for most people.
For video games, you often become your character, or you are roleplaying that character and in their head. And, in a sense, Bioware is putting you into a situation where you are simulating a romance with a fictional, virtual character that culminates in sex with said virtual, fictional character.
In that sense, Bioware has created a piece of fiction for you to have sex with. That's really kind of creepy when you think about it.
In regards to immersion and roleplaying;
To me, it is, for the most part, little different than when I write a character for a story; I create a character, decide their appearance and then shape their identity in accordance with the setting of the story. During the story, I attempt to make decisions and select the dialogue options that make sense considering the character with possible character developments they might have undergone in mind.
I rarely, if ever, decide to do a romance solely for the sake of a romance; the romance is not the focus, it compliments the story. If I do decide to do a romance then it'll be because the romanceable character is someone who I feel works with the player character. It's for the same reason I don't let my companions' approval or disapproval dictate my decisions on major issues or those considered major to the character. On some issues and depending on the character, I may decide my character can be a bit softer in how they voice their disapproval or disagreement while on other issues they feel stronger about, they may not be.
TL:DR - To me, romance is more like watching two virtual characters with each of their own stories and character culminations have a romance that compliments the overall story and their respective characters. I may be in control of the character but when I make decisions, I try to never insert myself into their character beyond trying to look at the setting from their, cultural and biased perspective.
As a note; The inclusion of sexual interractions never made a romance to me either and I always disliked when stories attempts to tell me that a character's lust for another character means heartfelt love and that no further evidence need be provided to make the case.
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