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I think if Bioware is really about player choice then they should own up to it. We need create-a-villain. We have a customized avatar as our player character, so why can't we make our own villain!?

 

In truth, Bioware should also let us create our own alien race and own plot. Actually they should let us chose our own choices and consequence our own consequences.

 

This is not something Bioware necessarily wants, but it's somehing that I want!

 

JUST DO IT!



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(I beat this thread by a minute. Muahahaha)

I would be okay with we could customize the appearance of a preset villain (If human we could design what they look like ETC). Though its not something I'd like to see a large amount of focus put on. If anything it should be a set rival throughout the series than the actual big bad of a story.



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Our villain would be a real blank slate, wouldn't they?

Be kinda boring. I liked learning a bit about Saren and how he used his status from being both a spectre and turian to mess with us.
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Still would kinda like a Salarian main villain, or if Andromeda has an interesting race. Latter more likely.

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Saren + Harbinger + Joker (Jack Nicholson's version) = Mass Effect: Andromeda antagonist.



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Our villain would be a real blank slate, wouldn't they?

That's my main reason for suggesting a Create-A-Rival instead. Mainly for the appearance though I suppose you could select their general 'moral alignment' if the system stays in place.

They could be a companion, only their base appearance and alignment is customizable but- a main series villain needs to be rooted in detail and should be something to figure out not create as this is not a blank canvas for the player: it's more of a loosely written play with room for improvisation.


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This would Result in a Villain that is as much a blank Slate as the Protagonist. And a Story lives and dies with a good Villain. A Story, where you create your own Villain would thus be bland and effectively uninteresting, as no Game can actually give you the Tools to create a compelling Antagonist that is no predefined.



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Create-a-character, create-a-companion, create-a-villian, rival, romance, plot, lore... we need all of that! Imagine that. A game where you decide what everything is!? wouldn't that be great?



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Create-a-character, create-a-companion, create-a-villian, rival, romance, plot, lore... we need all of that! Imagine that. A game where you decide what everything is!? wouldn't that be great?

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Create-a-character, create-a-companion, create-a-villian, rival, romance, plot, lore... we need all of that! Imagine that. A game where you decide what everything is!? wouldn't that be great?

 

Yes. I also wish to work for BioWare and get Money to do just that.



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Catch my drift already?! >:D

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Meh. The fun part about it is when the villain is revealed in BioWare games. I don't like to know on beforehand who the antagonist is.



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Create-a-character, create-a-companion, create-a-villian, rival, romance, plot, lore... we need all of that! Imagine that. A game where you decide what everything is!? wouldn't that be great?

The Sims.

IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE


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The Sims.

IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

Mass Effect Andromeda - By Maxis/EA, oh god.



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A female.

Now that'd be something.

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A female.

Now that'd be something.

That would be seen as a crime in this feminist world of today we live in. People be all like "The villain is female?! Men are so misogynistic"


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I would like to see a female villain, that would be awesome.



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Here's a great villain concept!

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okay, this isn't mine :P



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That would be seen as a crime in this feminist world of today we live in. People be all like "The villain is female?! Men are so misogynistic"


Who gives a damn?

Just respond with: 'Oh, so only men can be villains?'

And the conversation should end there. Unless they really want to advertise themselves as total morons.

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How about an evil guy who turns good than becomes bad again cliche'? no, seen it in movies.

A colonial peasant who betray his/her own people? no... same as above.

Hah, how about a long-dead guy who came back to life along with his undead minions seeking revenge on everyone? no, too GOT-ish.

Maybe an ancient, Jupiter-sized, intelligent talking planet who plans to conquer the universe? yeah, that's never done before.
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I was thinking, how about a villain that isn't necessary good or bad.  I've always thought Saren wasn't an evil guy.  (Yes, I've read the comics and books). But I felt in ME1, he thought he was doing what was best for the galaxy.  Same with the Illusive Man.  



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Well in ME3, TIM went a little Bat sh*t crazy!



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I was thinking, how about a villain that isn't necessary good or bad.  I've always thought Saren wasn't an evil guy.  (Yes, I've read the comics and books). But I felt in ME1, he thought he was doing what was best for the galaxy.  Same with the Illusive Man.  

We already know about Saren, indoctrinated remember? Same with TIM. Sure, they were fools to be so close to the Reapers anyway, but they weren't bad, just controlled.



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We already know about Saren, indoctrinated remember? Same with TIM. Sure, they were fools to be so close to the Reapers anyway, but they weren't bad, just controlled.

 

Yeah, they were both indoctrinated, I know.  But I think they both had complete control until they were needed.  I believe Saren wasn't needed until (obviously) before the events of ME1 but after the events of the first book.  And same with TIM.  This is just pure speculation.



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Well, I do think that Bioware's felt need for "one-size fits all" villains has gotten them into trouble in the past. For instance, I've always suspected that the main reason the Reapers are so powerful and so insistent on destroying all intelligent life is that this gives Shepard a reason to oppose them no matter his or her moral alignment. Even the most sociopathic of Shepards will want to prevent the Reapers from wiping out the galaxy because after all, that's where he keeps all his stuff. Thus, no matter your alignment, the game can funnel you into its basic plot without the need for significant branching.

 

Maybe something like a TW2-esque branching paths system could work here; for instance, you could work for characters A or B; if you work for A, your villain is B, and if you work for B, your villain is A. Creating your own villain altogether seems unrealistic to me (what if you created an inept villain? How would that work for the plot?), but allowing more flexibility in terms of who you are fighting against may give you more freedom to define the personality and goals of your character.


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That would be seen as a crime in this feminist world of today we live in. People be all like "The villain is female?! Men are so misogynistic"

 

I don't recall that being a big response to Meredith or to The Mother or to Tela Vasir.

 

Or to Maya Brooks, Branka, Morinth or any of the other villainous female characters Bioware has written. 

 

Edit: I'm probably going to get "Asari are mono gendered so they don't count" for this, but I'll have to agree to disagree, because I think they do count. 


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