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#26
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It's tough finding people on Xbox One if they're not on your friends list. My match with Snakebite and Proto was probably a rare occurrence. I'm alright with there being a need for skilled teamwork, as a bar for entry. I do hope, however, that there this is some means in the future for players who are skilled at the game, but simply may not have the time to devote to promotions or not find it enjoyable.

 

This kinda takes me back to ME3 days where the transition into Platinum was pretty daunting, but if you practiced well enough, understood the game mechanics, and worked well worth your team, you could make it to extraction; even without the best gear. Nightmare seems to be much less forgiving than that.



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  :mellow:  And before someone says - find friends to play with - I have many. They just don't want to play Nightmare. :crying:


Would you like to be my friend? I am always down for some Nightmare games  =]



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Solo it.



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I think I've joined you in the fruitless waiting once. Exciting non-games. :P

 

Best lobby wait ever! Fun times! :lol:

 

I'd join you in puglyfe, but you know how the matchmaker feels about us joining the same games.

 

Uggh! Uhmm, well, Gya can always host for us. :P Then, we shall ride together on the glorious wings of lag to Narnia and back! :lol:

 

I would love to invite you to my games but I'm west coast US so you'd probably spend the entire game rubber banding back to the start of the zone, trying to run from invisible enemies >.<

 

I do have a friend from US (east coast though) and lag between us is not that bad. It's not perfect ofc, but it's not crippling lag by any stretch. It depends a lot on... stuff. O_O

 

 

Would you like to be my friend? I am always down for some Nightmare games  =]

 

 

For sure, I am always up for more people on my FL. The only problem is that considering the disparity of promotions between us, I'll probably mostly stand around and be pretty? :lol: Jk, will bring my tryhard characters in order not to bring shame to the sands clan.  :ph34r:

 

 

Solo it.

 

 

I would if I could.

 

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I play on PC. Really hard to get anyone in the lobby at all. Even if I host, I will rarely find someone who joins. And after 5 minutes of waiting with me, they'll usually leave to probably have more fun than waiting in a half empty lobby. :lol:
 
 
Well, good for you that you have a choice in the matter. I wouldn't either. :lol:
 
 
I agree with you. However, it's a shame that this big rift exists between perilous and nightmare. Wish there were more average players (like me) that played it regularly.

These are my issues of not PUGGING NM

1. I get disconnected or frozen very often and in PUG games I can not return to the game . Other players may take my place or I may not know anyone in the PUG to return.
2. NM is still very in demand because of completing the challenges and the higher xp for my high level friends
3. NM is still popular for other high level friends for the Hakkon Weapons
4. 2 and 3 means in my private games (sometimes I will start public for lobby but go private) are fill up very fast or I join my friends lobby
5. PUGGING yields player who really shouldn't be at NM and are even challenged to be in perilous who die within seconds and spam come here for revival when I am the only who can solo in the group
6. PUGGING yields average players who come in die often and when I carry them for 4 or 5 runs they get a Hakkon weapons the talkative PUG doesn't say a word and just leaves after the game
7. With that said I typically P{UG perilous and if I find a group who is well coordinated and will accept positive input then I will ask them if they want to go to NM, switch to private and do the run

I suppose others who do NM runs often share some of my feelings. Whether they do or not, it is the way I am currently running NM
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Ya silence 85 does pug on nightmare from time to time, sometimes Tkachuk as well.

On the whole the guy has an almost admirable lack of reservations about who he pugs with.

Of course he has friends that are quick to rush to him and fill up the room

 

 

Only ever played with Silence on Peri (well felt like i was in the backpack, but i was there lol) and Tkachuk have run with loads and Nibyl both of them on peri mostly but have stabbed at nightmare (got 3 wins so far).  With a mega fire mining ele and a pinata lego :P

 

 

 



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 I am out there helping people through.. all I ask is you pay the toll(hit the gong) to roll.

 

in about a week I will be lvl 1-20 nightmare, when that happens any ones welcome to hitch a ride ^_^ 



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It's tough finding people on Xbox One if they're not on your friends list. My match with Snakebite and Proto was probably a rare occurrence. I'm alright with there being a need for skilled teamwork, as a bar for entry. I do hope, however, that there this is some means in the future for players who are skilled at the game, but simply may not have the time to devote to promotions or not find it enjoyable.

 

This kinda takes me back to ME3 days where the transition into Platinum was pretty daunting, but if you practiced well enough, understood the game mechanics, and worked well worth your team, you could make it to extraction; even without the best gear. Nightmare seems to be much less forgiving than that.

add me to your friend list it will increase the chances of us bumping into each other.... I'm always down for NM



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I suppose others who do NM runs often share some of my feelings. Whether they do or not, it is the way I am currently running NM

 

You had a good list.

 

I will pug with anyone as long as they have a mic and actually care to win.  DAMP has not been that at all for 95% of the time.  When I pug its people playing a difficulty way above their pay grade with their tier 1 armor and whatever weapon they happened to get out of the chest.  They don't want to play as much as they want to leech.  They will be in the fade by wave 1 or 2 hoping you carry them to that dragon weapon or whatever else.  That's my problem with pugging in this game.

 

Would I like to go in a room and suicide myself as I post on BSN and people carry me through the game while I do nothing but make the enemies tougher and reap all of the rewards?  Heck yeah I would, but I don't.  And I'm not doing it for others.  I've learned about pugging from experience in DAMP.

 

ME wasn't like that.  You had your leechers and things, but pugs in that game were nothing like the pugs in DAMP.  I will blame SOME of that on the design choices in DAMP though.


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You had a good list.

 

I will pug with anyone as long as they have a mic and actually care to win.  DAMP has not been that at all for 95% of the time.  When I pug its people playing a difficulty way above their pay grade with their tier 1 armor and whatever weapon they happened to get out of the chest.  They don't want to play as much as they want to leech.  They will be in the fade by wave 1 or 2 hoping you carry them to that dragon weapon or whatever else.  That's my problem with pugging in this game.

 

Would I like to go in a room and suicide myself as I post on BSN and people carry me through the game while I do nothing but make the enemies tougher and reap all of the rewards?  Heck yeah I would, but I don't.  And I'm not doing it for others.  I've leaned about pugging from experience in DAMP.

 

ME wasn't like that.  You had your leechers and things, but pugs in that game were nothing like the pugs in DAMP.

Truer words have never ever been spoken  *Claps*



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I honestly tried it a few times and continue to try. It does work sometimes but the best results are when there is at least one friend with me in the game.

 

Last attempt was two days ago when I actually found a lobby with a lonely lvl 20 AW (I was reaver). He eagerly flashed ready as he was probably waiting for some time for somebody to drop in. We started and did not manage to clear zone 1 as he was using a lot of chain lightning. My reaver died twice and AW soon followed after aggroing the whole map.

 

Next attempt was much better as there were two legos in the group. We cleared zone 3 but wiped in zone 4 due to despair demons and their wall hack. The run took about 15 minutes and somebody wasted their dragon call.

 

So, there is some hope, you just have to be persistent.

 

On a side note, ME3 platinum pugs are not that good either in many cases. People frequently rage quit, wipe for no reason, play as a-holes, and do other stupid things. So, yes, perilous is much more comfortable and profitable in terms of gold and experience. I don't care about experience but I'd like to get at least one of these Hakkon weapons everyone are talking about. I've extracted 6 or 7 times on FC Nightmare but did not get any yellow shiny things. Other than that, IMO, Nightmare is not that interesting or attractive.


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Apparently, if you don't have friends, you cannot play Nightmare.  :rolleyes: And not even because pugs are incompetent or something, there are LITERALLY NONE OF THEM OUT THERE. 

This is exactly what I have been thinking all day. I kept settling for perilous because I can't find even a single other person pugging nightmare. I keep logging off to do other stuff, thinking that when I log back on later, there's bound to be more people. Right? Right? No. No, there's still no one. :'(


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You did some NM with me and my two friends :P
One of the best Dispellers i have ever played with.

 

Dispell all the things! But those were some good runs :)



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Imho, this is prime time Europe for gaming so I am not sure what's happening.  :mellow:  And before someone says - find friends to play with - I have many. They just don't want to play Nightmare. :crying:

 

/super salty

 

Untrue! I'm on your friends list, you just don't invite me because you keep on wanting to play with the friends that don't want to play NM... thus you don't.

 

I've invited you plenty of times, and you've declined each. . . and guess where we were going.


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Untrue! I'm on your friends list, you just don't invite me because you keep on wanting to play with the friends that don't want to play NM... thus you don't.

 

I've invited you plenty of times, and you've declined each. . . and guess where we were going.

 

Ok, if you are going to nit pick on it, yes, I do have some friends that want to play NM. But some of them like badger mentioned, I cannot connect to. Some of them rarely play in my time frame now. And then, there's you who has the uncanny talent to invite me in a game precisely when I am mid-game with friends and we're already chatting, goofing around and having fun so it's pretty much a no no to leave. Also, I have seen you 0 times online this week + I haven't declined each request. Don't be salty about this, this topic is neither about you (it's about no NM pugs) nor have I meant to step on your toes with it - as I said, not playing with you is a result of circumstances.



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I've had some pretty decent luck in NM pugs. The games aren't ideal, but the players seem seasoned and with careful play we make it through. Surprisingly, non-FC NM games are fairly easy, except for zone 5. With experienced players, FC isn't too difficult. It just requires a little skill/experience and patience.

 

Just finished a NM pug with my duelist. I've only promoted her 3 times, so I'm not highly experienced with her, but good team play made it happen. Did another pug with 2 Legos and my AW. It did NOT take forever, maybe 30 minutes, and we rolled right through every zone with no one dying. Don't let those leader-boarders tell you NM is only for the elite...that's just BS.

 

I would say if anyone finds Perilous easy, it's time to move on to NM. Sure, you'll wipe until you get the hang of it, but there's no better way to gain experience than from experience.


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Ill be puggin nm later testing out you ps4 folk

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I wouldn't pug NM even if there were pretty unicorns everwhere.

While we at,I never saw u pugging below NM either.

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Apparently, if you don't have friends, you cannot play Nightmare.  :rolleyes: And not even because pugs are incompetent or something, there are LITERALLY NONE OF THEM OUT THERE. :lol: Well, surely, you can solo if you can do it.  ^_^

 

What do you guys think? Those of you that have been pugging NM have you had any more success finding random games? My region is Europe and I don't have any problems finding lots of perilous games but omg NM is a wasteland.

 

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Imho, this is prime time Europe for gaming so I am not sure what's happening.  :mellow:  And before someone says - find friends to play with - I have many. They just don't want to play Nightmare. :crying:

 

/super salty

Similar issue here. I can find pug for NM but people are all playing AW because they are all apparently so scared of noobs. So it's still doable if you are willing to waste a couple hours on it. But then you start to think the drop rate and then just want to give...

 

With more and more friends started to have all 5 Hakkon weapons there are event less people to play with. It seems like a lot of those promotion lords are already done with NM and just want to farm Peri for easy xp now...



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I've had some pretty decent luck in NM pugs. The games aren't ideal, but the players seem seasoned and with careful play we make it through. Surprisingly, non-FC NM games are fairly easy, except for zone 5. With experienced players, FC isn't too difficult. It just requires a little skill/experience and patience.

 

Just finished a NM pug with my duelist. I've only promoted her 3 times, so I'm not highly experienced with her, but good team play made it happen. Did another pug with 2 Legos and my AW. It did NOT take forever, maybe 30 minutes, and we rolled right through every zone with no one dying. Don't let those leader-boarders tell you NM is only for the elite...that's just BS.

 

I would say if anyone finds Perilous easy, it's time to move on to NM. Sure, you'll wipe until you get the hang of it, but there's no better way to gain experience than from experience.

2 Lego plus an AW... Yup that's exactly what I was thinking. With more than 1 tank the game just take too long in my experience. And the worst case I had was when we had 2 Lego, 1 AW and 1 Duelist.... We ended up getting near wiped in Zone 5 with the dragon only a tiny bit of health left but I can't revive anybody with my lego simply because all those dragonling literally squeezed me out of the way... And then I was left alone as a Lego to face the dragon by myself. I ended up just leave all the dragonlings alive and keep stabbing the dragon so there is enough hits from me to keep my Walking Fortress up forever, pretty much... Whenever I clears the dragon's guard he regenerated full guard straightaway because I'm not dealing enough damage. And I just can't get to the catapult because I kept getting blocked by the dragonlings...

And then it took so long and the host just raged quit. And then? Well host migration failed. Wasted 2 and a half hours of effort.

 

The more often situation is when you waste a couple of hours and find out your disappointing loot every single time... That really puts me off from teams with lots of tanks in them.


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Untrue! I'm on your friends list, you just don't invite me because you keep on wanting to play with the friends that don't want to play NM... thus you don't.

 

I've invited you plenty of times, and you've declined each. . . and guess where we were going.

LOL I haven't seen you online much recently. The one time I saw you you were farming challenges xD Missed playing with you Drasca


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Just putting it out there, if there were pretty unicorns everywhere, I would totally pug  :wub:

 

Adding to the low NM lobby discussion, when my friends aren't on and I pug and I find awesome people, I add them to my friend list and we play and it's back to no pugging again. It's a vicious cycle that does not favor the puglyfe.


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Just putting it out there, if there were pretty unicorns everywhere, I would totally pug  :wub:

 

Adding to the low NM lobby discussion, when my friends aren't on and I pug and I find awesome people, I add them to my friend list and we play and it's back to no pugging again. It's a vicious cycle that does not favor the puglyfe.

nevermind



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Zorinho20 - I only pug in the weekends atm, and typically only for the challenges.

 

My "main game" currently is Final Fantasy XIII (part 1) atm, only 19 hours in :D



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And before someone says - find friends to play with - I have many. They just don't want to play Nightmare. :crying:

 

... with you.  :whistle: 


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