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[Queen Skadi]

I am 75% sure they have the protagonist model after something.

 

The question is however what makes you so sure? Have you seen something I have not?

[Kierro Ren]

Blank, boring, and emotionless PC? Sounds like Elder Scrolls... Lets not and say the devs did.

[Han Shot First]

Blank, boring, and emotionless PC? Sounds like Elder Scrolls... Lets not and say the devs did.

 

This.

 

I don't buy Bioware games for a Bethesda experience. Bethesda games and their blank slate protagonists bore me.

[Cyonan]

Blank, boring, and emotionless PC? Sounds like Elder Scrolls... Lets not and say the devs did.

 

You say this like Shep was an interesting character and not a generic character that comes in either "good to a fault" or "psychopath" flavours.

[The Heretic of Time]

When it comes to stoic badass masculine protagonists: 

Geralt of Rivia > J.C. Denton

I am very much in favor of such a protagonist for ME:A though, but only as a male protagonist. I don't want to play a stoic masculine female protagonist.

[wolfhowwl]

I hope we have a strong female protagonist like Drakengard 3.

 

[Han Shot First]

You say this like Shep was an interesting character and not a generic character that comes in either "good to a fault" or "psychopath" flavours.

 

Shepard was a lot more interesting than the Inquisitor (the least fleshed out Bioware protagonist), J.C. Denton, and every Bethesda protagonist.

[LisuPL]

I'm suprised this hasn't been posted in this topic yet...

 

 

Watch the whole thing, I endorse it, especially to all Deus Ex fans.

But, for the real "Mass Effecty Deus Ex" go to 6:10 of the video and watch:)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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And remember to wait till the end of the video for the "Stargazer scene!"

[Cyonan]

Shepard was a lot more interesting than the Inquisitor (the least fleshed out Bioware protagonist), J.C. Denton, and every Bethesda protagonist.

 

I'd say Shep is on par with the Inquisitor, which is to say neither are actually very interesting at all.

 

Having Denton or Bethesda's protagonists there though is like saying Shep is more interesting than a Husk. While technically true, it's not really much of an accomplishment.

[Seboist]

Shepard ended up becoming even less interesting after ME1 when they removed all dialogue options over his political alignments, whether human nationalist or pro-multilateral. After that, he became a dullard only interested in smashing Reapers.

[Former_Fiend]

I think these types of games only work 1) where the protagonist is silent, and 2) where we're given ample opportunity to customize and craft our protagonist through skills and dialogue options.

 

It doesn't work within the structure of a bioware game that is built much more heavily on a story arc structure with defined acts, and inter-character relationships. And especially where that character has a distinct voice.

 

More than that, I think this type of character has just seen it's day come and gone. Even Bethesda's moving away from it, and I just see it as a step backwards in game design in general.

[avenging_teabag]

What a shame

 

[avenging_teabag]

I am very much in favor of such a protagonist for ME:A though, but only as a male protagonist. I don't want to play a stoic masculine female protagonist.

Why do you hate strong independent womyn? And have you stopped beating your wife?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Shepard was a lot more interesting than the Inquisitor (the least fleshed out Bioware protagonist), J.C. Denton, and every Bethesda protagonist.

I'd say Shep is on par with the Inquisitor, which is to say neither are actually very interesting at all.

 

Having Denton or Bethesda's protagonists there though is like saying Shep is more interesting than a Husk. While technically true, it's not really much of an accomplishment.

 

Nope, Inqui was completely bland. They would have worked better without being voiced... because the VAs didn't use a lot of emotion. Shepard at least got some passion (in blue and red flavours) although they also had three games to develop. The Inquisitor always sounds the same no matter what.

[The Heretic of Time]

Why do you hate strong independent womyn? And have you stopped beating your wife?

 

They make me feel insecure about myself. You see, I only have a 2 inch penis, so I have to compensate for my lack of masculinity somehow.

[DaemionMoadrin]

They make me feel insecure about myself. You see, I only have a 2 inch penis, so I have to compensate for my lack of masculinity somehow.

 

I heard they make cars for that.

[Iakus]

Shepard was a lot more interesting than the Inquisitor (the least fleshed out Bioware protagonist), J.C. Denton, and every Bethesda protagonist.

The Inquisitor was my character in a way Shepard never was, though.  Fleshed out or no.

[SardaukarElite]

JC was more stoic than blank state. He'd start arguing politics if you followed the dialogue trails long enough.

 

If we're just modeling the PC off cyberpunk protagonists with shades now though I'll vote for Molly from Neuromancer.

[N7Jamaican]

The question is however what makes you so sure? Have you seen something I have not?

 

I am not some insider, I probably know as much as about ME:A as the next person.  However, a few ME characters are based off of or influenced by something or someone.  I just think that there is a good chance of the PC being based off of or modeled after somebody.

 

Look at Shepard, and look at what all went into his/her character.

[Former_Fiend]

The only modeling of cyberpunk protagonists I want to do is in the CC of the AAA Shadowrun game that needs to happen.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Yes, look at Shepard:

 

"I thought Asari needed other species to reproduce."

 

"I thought Asari preferred to mate with other races for genetic diversity."

Erinya: "A short-sighted mistake perpetrated by the same self-hating malcontents who spawned the term pureblood."

 

"You're just a big stupid jellyfish!"

 

"I don't have time for this." *draws gun* *shoots*

 

"Keep it up. You'll leave in a bag."

 

Now that's what I call character development!

[Cheviot]

If other people need a reference:

So the Mass Effect protagonist should look like a middle-aged accountant cosplaying as Neo from the Matrix? For me, that's not really a blank slate; I'd spend most of the game worrying whether he'd got his pension plan sorted out.

[Il Divo]

So the Mass Effect protagonist should look like a middle-aged accountant cosplaying as Neo from the Matrix?

 

Exactly. 

[Halfdan The Menace]

If a stoic protagonist you're looking for then the male PC should be modelled after this man:

[Queen Skadi]

I'd say Shep is on par with the Inquisitor, which is to say neither are actually very interesting at all.

 

Having Denton or Bethesda's protagonists there though is like saying Shep is more interesting than a Husk. While technically true, it's not really much of an accomplishment.

 

That is because Bethesda protagonists are only as interesting as you make them which if you have no imagination of course they are going to be boring.

 

As for JC Denton he was merely an emotionless vessel for the player to experience the world and story through, he isnt required to be interesting as the story isn't about the emotions of JC but rather the events going on in the world and how you through JC choose to react to them. If you want to write a story about the protagonist's emotional turmoil and inner emotions then perhaps the video game medium isn't the best choice.

 

Besides I always liked how the emotionless delivery gave JC that cold FBI hardass vibe, I certainly prefer that to dudebro Shepard who wasn't very interesting despite the writers best efforts to make him so.