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[Father_Jerusalem]

Everyone on this sub has turned into some sort of old curmudgeon. It's actually really entertaining. Stay salty my friends.

 

 

I feel harassed that you claim to know that I'm salty. Please stop trying to taste me. 

[Lintanis]

It's become so bad on PS3 that I have quit joining PUGs in favor of creating my own lobbies, and have to ignore game invites from a significant portion of my friend list. When I do create a public game, odds are high that someone will ask if I want to glitch the lobby; got called a ****** the other day because I refused. The leaderboard is completely broken at this point, it's only purpose being an easy tool for tracking glitchers.

 

 

Nearly every game i play on PS3 is a PUG one but I am yet to encounter a glitched lobby yet

[T_elic]

oh here we go again.

 

Yeah, but with good reason. It's been a ****** month.

[TheThirdRace]

Why is it promotions are part of your Prestige again?

Instead of having challenges that repeat themselves like in ME3MP, they tried something that could be abused in some way. Well, I hope they learned their lesson for next game...

Also, this isn't a "real" problem for Bioware because it doesn't affect their bottom line. Missile Glitching was a problem in ME3MP because it made players get gold faster thus Platinum sales were falling. An XP glitch in favor of the players is in no way detrimental to the gameplay, the game is exactly the same, you just get rewarded more XP.

It's really a perception problem. Everything's about how much people work for something and how they want others to actually sweat the same. While I understand the feeling, you must also realize there's another side to the story. If you base yourself on how much you sweat for something then it could be argued that if you lose a finger, everybody MUST lose a finger. This is an exaggeration for sure, but if you use your brain you should be able to see the principle.

The thing is, how about we might have been screwed with XP from the start and now it's being "corrected"? How is it people think it's normal to spend 1000 hours to get 100 stats across the board? Why is it normal to never play a fully fledge build if you want to progress? We're getting screwed over and people are frustrated some people aren't screwed as much?!?! Grow a pair! Why don't we ask for the reverse instead, how about we ask for NOT getting screwed to begin with? How about we ask for a permanent 2x XP? Or that they fix the characters that don't give XP by playing them like they should (looking at you Assassin)?

People are also selective. If you enforce the "You should sweat as much as I did" policy then we need to revert every balance changes to original. We also need to block people from being carried in higher difficulties. Routine players should not have access to anything good until they played 100 hours. Loot buckets should disappear and players should be the victim of the key drop bug 50% of the time. Nightmare and Heartbreakers are out of the question for the first 6 months of any player. That's what everyone deserves right? Because I endured this right? Selective, you are selective...

There are so many things wrong with this game, a lot of good things too, but so many wrongs. Most of the things aren't working like they should, can we concentrate on that first please? Is it THAT important that a list of 100 fictional gamertags for a fictional game is not showing the ones that "deserves" it (aka those that don't have anything else to do...)?

Disclaimer: I am on the leaderboard now, I really don't have anything else to do... I also benefited from XP lobbies on occasions, I don't seek them, but if they happen then they happen. I don't feel any injustice if someone replace me on a fictional list. I have my stats and they're useful in-game, that's all that matters. Even if someone did get the same stats that I do with less effort than I've put, then all I say is they probably won't be as good as I am and they'll need those stats much more than I do...

[ParthianShotX]

I joined a routine match this morning and the host announced "this is a double XP/double gold game" -- I almost left immediately but they were on Ferelden wave 3 and both doors were rogue (I was the only rogue); I opened the doors, they moved to wave 4 -- I killed a bunch of stuff and on wave 4 and exited before wave 5.  I guess that makes me kind of an a-hole since my double xp went with me and my double kill streak was 48.  My only thought when the host announced that they were using the glitch was:  "I don't want any part of it and I find it amusing and sad that you're doing it on routine."

[ParthianShotX]

double post -- why you hate me BSN

 

or

 

*reserved*

 

or 

 

*something pithy about being nothing but an old spider*

[Gya]

double post -- why you hate me BSN

or

*reserved*

or

*something pithy about being nothing but an old spider*

I invented reserving. Please give me credit when you use it.

[Sulaco_7]

I wish Bioware could do a poll on this issue.  I think it would help in their decision making process.

 

If 80% of the community is "strongly in favor of banning", then obviously they should do something about it. On the other hand, if the majority is "ambivalent" or "not in favor of banning", then that would also be good information to know as well.  At the very least, it would be a good data point to have.

 

DAMP is such a small community, I think that's one of the reasons why they are so hesitant to act.  They don't want to do anything that would destabilize it.  This is also why a poll to gauge community sentiment would be good.

[Geth Supremacy]

DAMP is such a small community, I think that's one of the reasons why they are so hesitant to act.  They don't want to do anything that would destabilize it.  This is also why a poll to gauge community sentiment would be good.

 

What?....I don't know whether to......You do know......

 

[Denrok1]

The leaderboard is completely broken at this point, it's only purpose being an easy tool for tracking glitchers.

 

Agreed

[Denrok1]

We've gone over this before, Denrok. - "It has already been stated by Bioware folks (more than once) that they are looking into the exploit issue. Carrying on with this forum based anti-exploit crusade will yield no desirable results, as regurgitating what's already been said over and over tends to simply irritate people (especially those tasked with fixing the problem).".

 

There are those of us who are waiting to know if we should move onto a different game if a stat correction is not implemented, and knowing what direction Bioware is heading in sooner rather than later will make this transition easier. I do not want to play this game for another four weeks to find out that Bioware has decided to allow sir cheats a lot to keep his promotions when I could have left four weeks earlier. Make sense?

[Denrok1]

 

I like how OP refers to it having been one month as though that is some kind of unreasonably long time to pin down and resolve an exploit. Or that resolving an exploit that isn't hurting anyone should ever be considered as important as literally any other priority about a video game.

 

1. A month is a long time to pin down and resolve an exploit especially without an update from the company

2. Having players/customers actively violate a terms of service for a month plus is a big deal.

[Felis Menari]

There are those of us who are waiting to know if we should move onto a different game if a stat correction is not implemented, and knowing what direction Bioware is heading in sooner rather than later will make this transition easier. I do not want to play this game for another four weeks to find out that Bioware has decided to allow sir cheats a lot to keep his promotions when I could have left four weeks earlier. Make sense?

If you're going to quit DAMP if the XP exploit isn't met with harsh punishment, then I would say do it now. Enough damage has already been done due to the lack of a swift fix from the MP team, that it seems like at least half of the DAMP playerbase is making use of it. Banning half or more of the player base simply is not an option. This has gone beyond the point of fixing. Well, at least with how you'd like to have it fixed.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

OP have you been reading the forums lately?Even BioWare asked for these threads to end because they were looking into it.

 

I understand your frustration,as I've played from the beginning and witnessed pretty much every exploit and bug you can think of(none of which were fixed quickly),but these threads won't end well at this point.

[Bearform]

It's pretty anoying that its been 1 month and BW haven't done anything. I support OP, as reminding BW will hopefully force their hand to hurry up or at least communicate more on the issue. It is very worrying with their deafening silence regarding the issue. Its clear that they can communicate if they want to, looking at billy and bryan posts lately regarding the ps3 and xb360 issue.

It also very lame when ppl post their stats to brag on these forums when we know they xp exploit to get those stats.

[ParthianShotX]

If you're going to quit DAMP if the XP exploit isn't met with harsh punishment, then I would say do it now. Enough damage has already been done due to the lack of a swift fix from the MP team, that it seems like at least half of the DAMP playerbase is making use of it. Banning half or more of the player base simply is not an option. This has gone beyond the point of fixing. Well, at least with how you'd like to have it fixed.

 

Are you recommending I just hop in with both feet?

[Felis Menari]

Are you recommending I just hop in with both feet?

I'm not recommending for anyone to participate in the XP exploiting, if that's what you mean. I'm just saying with how things are currently, Denrok's proposed punishments for exploiters could result in the death of DAMP. This cannot be allowed to happen. And since he intends on quitting the DAMP if harsh punishment isn't doled out for XP exploiters, he may as well go ahead and leave in my opinion. I seriously don't think he's going to get what he wants.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

1. A month is a long time to pin down and resolve an exploit especially without an update from the company

 

No, it isn't. And you have had updates from the company. You've had several of them in this sub-forum from BioWare employees. You and others choose to ignore those updates, but that doesn't mean they didn't happen. In one of those updates, they explained that the fix would require a patch. I'm pretty sure the Microsoft certification process is a few weeks to deal with by itself, so a month is not a long time for an exploit to be closed - especially a minor one.

 

2. Having players/customers actively violate a terms of service for a month plus is a big deal.

 

It has had no negative impact on anyone. No one has lost anything because of it. It does not effect the gameplay in any way. I'd rather they focus on things that matter, like actual bugs or new content. You (and several others) are trying to make a huge deal out of something minor, simply because it offends you.

[Geth Supremacy]

I'm not recommending for anyone to participate in the XP exploiting, if that's what you mean. I'm just saying with how things are currently, Denrok's proposed punishments for exploiters could result in the death of DAMP. This cannot be allowed to happen. And since he intends on quitting the DAMP if harsh punishment isn't doled out for XP exploiters, he may as well go ahead and leave in my opinion. I seriously don't think he's going to get what he wants.

 

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some bans.  As in from 24 hours up to possibly a week.  How many times did they "try" to fix the Rocket Glitch?  They had weekly ban waves for that so its definitely something they can and will do.  I don't see it doing much or more happening than that. 

 

I will say I have pugged today quite a few games to see if this is as bad as people say and despite what many people say I have literally not ran into 1 single double xp lobby.  I played on a new account to damp and went to a new room after each game.  I hit a lot of rooms and never ran into it once.  Based on this I have to say its people doing it on their own accord in private rooms for whatever reason they have.  Not as major as stated here.

[Medallian]

You think people rage quitting because of cheating make up more broken hearts than people angry about discontinued support X360/PS3??

 

I wouldn't Know as I don't play on the old systems man :/ think your taking what I said there completely out of context

[jeremyj26]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some bans.  As in from 24 hours up to possibly a week.  How many times did they "try" to fix the Rocket Glitch?  They had weekly ban waves for that so its definitely something they can and will do.  I don't see it doing much or more happening than that. 

 

I will say I have pugged today quite a few games to see if this is as bad as people say and despite what many people say I have literally not ran into 1 single double xp lobby.  I played on a new account to damp and went to a new room after each game.  I hit a lot of rooms and never ran into it once.  Based on this I have to say its people doing it on their own accord in private rooms for whatever reason they have.  Not as major as stated here.

 

I think I ran into once.  About a month ago.  I'm seeing everyone up in arms, but I don't think it is us random puggers.

[Felis Menari]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some bans. As in from 24 hours up to possibly a week. How many times did they "try" to fix the Rocket Glitch? They had weekly ban waves for that so its definitely something they can and will do. I don't see it doing much or more happening than that.

I will say I have pugged today quite a few games to see if this is as bad as people say and despite what many people say I have literally not ran into 1 single double xp lobby. I played on a new account to damp and went to a new room after each game. I hit a lot of rooms and never ran into it once. Based on this I have to say its people doing it on their own accord in private rooms for whatever reason they have. Not as major as stated here.

Temporary bans would not be considered harsh, me thinks. Denrok is after perma bans, I'm pretty sure.

[Kissraven]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some bans.  As in from 24 hours up to possibly a week.  How many times did they "try" to fix the Rocket Glitch?  They had weekly ban waves for that so its definitely something they can and will do.  I don't see it doing much or more happening than that. 

 

I will say I have pugged today quite a few games to see if this is as bad as people say and despite what many people say I have literally not ran into 1 single double xp lobby.  I played on a new account to damp and went to a new room after each game.  I hit a lot of rooms and never ran into it once.  Based on this I have to say its people doing it on their own accord in private rooms for whatever reason they have.  Not as major as stated here.

Not the best time to try out a test as it's Monday and most players after the weekend tend to play less earlier in the week. Not sure what platform you are on as well, but that can also make a difference. On Xbone the weekend including from Friday until Sunday night or like 2-4am EST Monday is pretty full of random glitched lobbies. However, I will say that some of the people that went gang busters in those lobbies have either played themselves out of enjoying the game or started to get worried about repercussions because some of the biggest abusers have slowed down in recent days and I've seen them playing more of other games.

 

As for bans I'm not sure a timed ban would be punishment for some, as it's almost like a forced break to allow a player to play other games while DAMP adds content and then those players come back and still have the stats they got while glitching. Still I'd be for it if it was that or nothing, but hopefully it would be a term commensurate with the amount of false xp they earned.

 

Again a ban of everyone that fell into a glitched lobby is not reasonable, but no action on BioWares part means possible legal trouble in the future with ToS violations on any of their games. The legal system is setup so that failure to establish a consistent response to something like a ToS then later on when someone violates it in another game and gets banned they could sue and argue that BioWare didn't enforce ToS consistently in all games and therefore it is invalid. Not that I love our legal system in the US, but it is what it is. A brand nowadays is only as strong as it's legal team to some extent...

[Theghostof_timmy]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some bans.  As in from 24 hours up to possibly a week.  How many times did they "try" to fix the Rocket Glitch?  They had weekly ban waves for that so its definitely something they can and will do.  I don't see it doing much or more happening than that. 

 

I will say I have pugged today quite a few games to see if this is as bad as people say and despite what many people say I have literally not ran into 1 single double xp lobby.  I played on a new account to damp and went to a new room after each game.  I hit a lot of rooms and never ran into it once.  Based on this I have to say its people doing it on their own accord in private rooms for whatever reason they have.  Not as major as stated here.

Apparently it costs them money to ban people, at least it did for ME3. They were making money on Me3 so they could afford to do that to an extent, here we're lucky they are even still supporting the game. They also can't afford to lose that many players. Far more likely, they will fix the bug and there will be no further repercussions.

[Denrok1]

Temporary bans would not be considered harsh, me thinks. Denrok is after perma bans, I'm pretty sure.

I am asking for stat corrections. Banning an individual for a certain period of time will not erase the promotions they have gained through the glitched lobbies.