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[KaiserShep]

Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, like the ancient civilizations. Congrats.

 

To be fair, ancient civilizations tended to be much worse than this, inflicting punishment that would probably be greatly disproportionate to the crime. 

[Han Shot First]

This is what what a real hunter looks like:

 

 

The trophy hunters are just rich tourists who pay local guides to track or bait animals for them to kill.

[Drone223]

This is what what a real hunter looks like:

 

*snip*

 

The trophy hunters are just rich tourists who pay local guides to track or bait animals for them to kill.

I've seen that video several times its truly amazing and its good to see the hunter show's the utmost respect to the koodo he killed.

[Han Shot First]

I've seen that video several times its truly amazing and its good to see the hunter show's the utmost respect to the koodo he killed.

 

The empathy he shows for his quarry at the end was beautiful. 

[TheOgre]

Meanwhile the blameshifting dentist and trump sons are like, "Yerrrr lets take a few pictures of us sitting on the kill like we're badasses!"

[KaiserShep]

I keep forgetting that that goofball Trump has sons. I imagine they were sprouted out of the spores stored in the roots of his hair cap. 

[Ridwan]

Well, not entirely.

 

The lion lived in Zimbabwe after all. 

The people of Zimbabwe don't really care about it. It's a first world problem.

[KaiserShep]

The people of Zimbabwe don't really care about it. It's a first world problem.

 

That seems like a stretch of the definition. Like, fussing over your panini not being hot enough is a first world problem. 

[Fidite Nemini]

The people of Zimbabwe don't really care about it. It's a first world problem.

 

Preservation of wildlife, healthy eco-systems and such is everyone's problem ...

 

The only first world problem I see here is the guy who paid 50k for a power trip and either negligibly or willingly violated the protection of the preservate.

[TheOgre]

The people of Zimbabwe don't really care about it. It's a first world problem.

This guy says it's a first world problem.

 

Yet he ignores the part where there's a very dwindling population of lions, and among the current surviving lions there is little genetic diversity.

 

If your trying to appear enlightened you should first understand that ecosystems are heavily impacted by "first world" problems.

 

 

Now try to impress other people.

[Ridwan]

This guy says it's a first world problem.

 

Yet he ignores the part where there's a very dwindling population of lions, and among the current surviving lions there is little genetic diversity.

 

If your trying to appear enlightened you should first understand that ecosystems are heavily impacted by "first world" problems.

 

 

Now try to impress other people.

 

Nice try. It's a first world problem where only westerners seems to be outraged that a 13 year old (which means it was close to dying from old age) lion got killed.

 

Here's what the people of Zimbabwe thinks. You know the folks actually living in the country.

 

To quote; ""Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

[Fidite Nemini]

Nice try. It's a first world problem where only westerners seems to be outraged that a 13 year old (which means it was close to dying from old age) lion got killed.

 

Here's what the people of Zimbabwe thinks. You know the folks actually living in the country.

 

To quote; ""Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

 

Nope, still not a first world problem. It just happens to be that most people in said first world (which is an antiquated term btw) are exposed to the news and it snowballed into a massive media sensation.

 

Why isn't that the same case in Zimbabwe? Because, and if you had bothered to actually read AND comprehend the article you linked you'd know that, those people have a lot more pressing issues to contend with, such as making sure they have money to sustain themselves. They don't exactly have the luxury of boredom that allows them to jump on the media trainwagon and neither do they have enough freetime to contemplate on global sustainable environment policies, so any lack thereof or even frustration when asked by random strangers looking to fuel a media hype on another continent is completely understandable.

 

 

So, stop trying to use "first world problems" as a synonym for "overblown reaction", because the two are not compatible.

[Dio Demon]

Nice try. It's a first world problem where only westerners seems to be outraged that a 13 year old (which means it was close to dying from old age) lion got killed.

 

Here's what the people of Zimbabwe thinks. You know the folks actually living in the country.

 

To quote; ""Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

Sorry he used a JoJo picture.

 

Your opinion is now invalidated by the sheer manliness and epicness of that post.

[TheOgre]

I used "first world problems" in jest as it isn't really a first world problem.

 

Extinction of an endangered species is really problematic for the world at large. To use an example, honey is a vital resource around the world. The bee population currently is on the decline, dangerously so. If a man decides to go to a bee farm and torches that down, it impacts more people than just the bee enthusiasts. 

 

The same situation applies here. While lions do not create a world wide resource, they are still an endangered species and their extinction could impact the local wild life at large.

 

About the quote, the reason why people are upset as a bunch of people have already answered to was that this was a celebrity lion killed by an affluent man and it caught the attention of the media. The special case here is that this lion was known where lions are killed in similar scenarios by rich brats or bored people with money more often than it should be. 

 

I think it's silly to be surprised that people are upset.

[BroBear Berbil]

 

Yet he ignores the part where there's a very dwindling population of lions, and among the current surviving lions there is little genetic diversity.

 

 

Just drop some cats into Africa and they'll evolve into lions. Problem solved.

[Fidite Nemini]

Just drop some cats into Africa and they'll evolve into lions. Problem solved.

 

Naw mate, drop those cats into south-east asia, tigers are more endangered than lions. Plus you'd also get leopards, clouded leopards and uther such big kitties from the same locale, yay diversity. Drop some of those into siberia too.

 

 

Hmm, I wonder what would happen if we dropped them into Australia. Sabertooth cats anyone?

 

 

Oh no, wait.

 

Lots of spiders in Australia ...

 

 

LOOK AT THAT ADAWWRABLE KITTY SPIDER!!!

[leighzard]

Kill it with fire!!!!

 

That probably is the most likely outcome though.

[Fidite Nemini]

Kill it with fire!!!!

 

That probably is the most likely outcome though.

 

I knew it! Eco-terrorist! Anti-arachnite!

 

Someone protect the innocent Felidaraneae!

[TheOgre]

Kill it with fire!!!!

 

That probably is the most likely outcome though.

I knew it! Eco-terrorist! Anti-arachnite!

 

Someone protect the innocent Felidaraneae!

But endangered species :*( You wouldn't harm an innocent cat de err.. spider would you?

[Commander Rpg]

To be fair, ancient civilizations tended to be much worse than this, inflicting punishment that would probably be greatly disproportionate to the crime.

Only the hebrews used the most civilized version of the law of retaliation, back in those times.
But the law of retaliation existed (first appears in the Code of Hammurabi) and punished crimes in a way identic to the wrong that was done.
I will quote wikipedia
 
"In the Code of Hammurabi and Hebrew Law, the “eye for eye” was to restrict compensation to the value of the loss. Thus, it might be better read 'only one eye for one eye'. The biblical phrase "an eye for an eye" in Exodus and Leviticus (עין תחת עין, ayin tachat ayin) literally means 'an eye in place of an eye' while a slightly different phrase (עַיִן בְּעַיִן שֵׁן בְּשֵׁן, literally "eye for an eye; tooth for a tooth") is used another passage (in Deuteronomy) of the Jewish Bible, specifically, in the first of its three subdivisions, the Torah. For example, a passage in Leviticus states, "And a man who inflicts an injury upon his fellow man just as he did, so shall be done to him [namely,] fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. Just as he inflicted an injury upon a person, so shall it be inflicted upon him." (Lev. 24:19–21)"

 

Since the punishment was identic in fashion to the wrong done, I used the same concept of the Lex Talionis to describe how sadistic it is to give the same treatment to a man that killed an animal. Even the Lex Talionis didn't conceive punishing a man with death sentence for killing an animal; that measures the civilization we live in today.

[leighzard]

I knew it! Eco-terrorist! Anti-arachnite!

 

Someone protect the innocent Felidaraneae!

 

But endangered species :*( You wouldn't harm an innocent cat de err.. spider would you?

 

I wouldn't. 

That thing scares the bejeezus out of me.  But someone should.

The combination of the terror that is large spiders and the evil genius of a cat is unholy.  I'm pretty sure that thing could take over the world.  Which is what house cats have always wanted anyway.  Don't let them know about this thread.

[Fidite Nemini]

I wouldn't. 

That thing scares the bejeezus out of me.  But someone should.

The combination of the terror that is large spiders and the evil genius of a cat is unholy.  I'm pretty sure that thing could take over the world.  Which is what house cats have always wanted anyway.  Don't let them know about this thread.

 

I'm going to rat you out to mousestalker (pun intended).

[Cknarf]

Lion kills human

 

*shrug*

 

Lion kills lion

 

*shrug*

 

Human kills lion

 

*worldwide outrage*

 

Ha. It's like white cops and... and uh... hm. Yeah. Probably shouldn't go there.

 

[crickets chirping]

 

Anyways... Jimmy Kimmel got hella emotional about this lion. Yeah, it sucks and all, but damn, I'm not gonna cry about it. You'd think the dude knew Cecil on a personal level or something.

[Simfam]

It's pretty hard on animal lovers when these amazing creatures are dying out because d*ck heads like Palmer thought it would be cool to hang some Lion's head in his house.

 

So yeah.

 

I get him getting emotional.

 

People seems to think we're getting upset about Cecil rather than what Cecil actually means. It's not the Lion itself but what the whole fiasco represents.

 

Though

 

Regardless of all the ins and out of this thread

 

Seriously man.

 

Which kind of sick fak takes their kicks on hunting a god-damned Lion?

 

I mean look at them

 

 

They're f*cking beautiful.

 

You gotta be a pretty heartless douche to look that in the eyes and say 'this'll look cool in my house.'

[Han Shot First]

It's pretty hard on animal lovers when these amazing creatures are dying out because d*ck heads like Palmer thought it would be cool to hang some Lion's head in his house.

 

So yeah.

 

I get him getting emotional.

 

People seems to think we're getting upset about Cecil rather than what Cecil actually means. It's not the Lion itself but what the whole fiasco represents.

 

Though

 

Regardless of all the ins and out of this thread

 

Seriously man.

 

Which kind of sick fak takes their kicks on hunting a god-damned Lion?

 

I mean look at them

 

 

They're f*cking beautiful.

 

You gotta be a pretty heartless douche to look that in the eyes and say 'this'll look cool in my house.'

 

They're also more beautiful as a living and breathing animal in the wild, doing what nature designed it to do, rather than as a lifeless husk stuffed and mounted on someone's wall.