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#126
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No. The planet (as a whole) is not a living being. 

The planet itself is a global ecosystem and we're destroying by damaging ecosystems. Is it natural selection for us to cut down trees that convert CO2 into O2? Human intelligence and adaptation is a design flaw, a good one but one that is ultimately damning. We have the ability to evolve past the basic needs of survival and we've gone into what no other species has done before and that it we are fulfilling wants.

 

We're destroying the global ecosystem to fulfil those wants this isn't natural selection. Humans are essentially a pest like a plague of locusts we have nothing to keep our numbers in check. We need to stop being a strain on the environment or we're going to destroy the planet or nature is going to evolve a super species that can fire lasers out of every orifice to kill us.


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The planet itself is a global ecosystem and we're destroying by damaging ecosystems. Is it natural selection for us to cut down trees that convert CO2 into O2? Human intelligence and adaptation is a design flaw, a good one but one that is ultimately damning. We have the ability to evolve past the basic needs of survival and we've gone into what no other species has done before and that it we are fulfilling wants.

 

We're destroying the global ecosystem to fulfil those wants this isn't natural selection. Humans are essentially a pest like a plague of locusts we have nothing to keep our numbers in check. We need to stop being a strain on the environment or we're going to destroy the planet or nature is going to evolve a super species that can fire lasers out of every orifice to kill us.

damn hippie :P



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His views work for a villain from a comic book for young boys.

 

Yes.

Araki could make a compelling villain based only on those few posts.


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damn hippie :P

I just want there to be grass.

 

Why? So pigs can get fat and we can get large chunks of bacon!



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Araki could make a compelling villain based only on those few posts.

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Araki could make a compelling villain based only on those few posts.

 

I wonder what his Stand would do.



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I wonder what his Stand would do.

Good question. Needs a fitting name too.



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Good question. Needs a fitting name too.

 

I think "Natural Selection" would do.

 

It'd be great with Engrish.


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The planet itself is a global ecosystem and we're destroying by damaging ecosystems. Is it natural selection for us to cut down trees that convert CO2 into O2? Human intelligence and adaptation is a design flaw, a good one but one that is ultimately damning. We have the ability to evolve past the basic needs of survival and we've gone into what no other species has done before and that it we are fulfilling wants.
 
We're destroying the global ecosystem to fulfil those wants this isn't natural selection. Humans are essentially a pest like a plague of locusts we have nothing to keep our numbers in check. We need to stop being a strain on the environment or we're going to destroy the planet or nature is going to evolve a super species that can fire lasers out of every orifice to kill us.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my straight piped M50B25
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I just want there to be grass.

 

Why? So pigs can get fat and we can get large chunks of bacon!

pigs dont eat grass....



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He killed him with a bow. I'm sure it was a compound bow, but there's skill involved to make a shot. Regardless, mankind is not a species that does well killing apex predators with our bare hands - we lack the natural strength and sharp bits. Sure, you'll get the odd story of a man who 1v1 a bear irl but it's an outlier that can't be done without significant injury. We've used tools to hunt for tens of thousands of years, so this notion that gets thrown around that it's unmanly to kill animals with weapons doesn't wash.

 

 

I know that we don't do well killing apex predators with our bare hands. That's why it would impress me as opposed to using a weapon designed to kill. Especially a ranged weapon.

 

Hunting as Humans have for thousands of years for food and trophy hunting are two entirely different things.



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pigs dont eat grass....

IT'S LATE!

 

FRANCE IS ATTACKING ME!

I'M GOING TO DO SOME NATURAL SELECTION ON FRENCHMEN!

 

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my straight piped M50B25

WHAT?!


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Trophy hunting is fine, but it has to be done hand to hand with a knife and a set of brass balls. Like a real man.

Guy is a little ******. Go hardcore or go home.

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IT'S LATE!

 

FRANCE IS ATTACKING ME!

I'M GOING TO DO SOME NATURAL SELECTION ON FRENCHMEN!

i approve of that



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WHAT?!

I'll bet you vote Greens and listen to Tracy Grimshaw as well, ripping hektik skidz is a basic human right that you are infringing on.

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I'll bet you vote Greens and listen to Tracy Grimshaw as well, ripping hektik skidz is a basic human right that you are infringing on.

 

*goes and cries in the shower*



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The planet itself is a global ecosystem and we're destroying by damaging ecosystems. Is it natural selection for us to cut down trees that convert CO2 into O2? Human intelligence and adaptation is a design flaw, a good one but one that is ultimately damning. We have the ability to evolve past the basic needs of survival and we've gone into what no other species has done before and that it we are fulfilling wants.

 

We're destroying the global ecosystem to fulfil those wants this isn't natural selection. Humans are essentially a pest like a plague of locusts we have nothing to keep our numbers in check. We need to stop being a strain on the environment or we're going to destroy the planet or nature is going to evolve a super species that can fire lasers out of every orifice to kill us.

If we destroy our environment, we will be faced with the same fate as every other species that destroys it's environment.

We will run out of resources and die out. 

 

It is precisely natural selection. Ability of an organism to gain resources essential to live and breed is required for it's survival. 

If it destroys it's environment beyond the point of recovery, that organism (and if it happens on the large scale, entire species) will just be removed from gene pool. 

 

A lot of people think, that for some reason principles of evolution doesn't apply to humans (because we have intelligence, technology or whatever). They're wrong.

All replicators are subjects to natural selection. Truth is, in our current evolution, sexual selection is becoming a more important factor than natural selection (because we are not so much competing for resources anymore, which we have in excess when it comes to food and water; and more for an attractive partner), but that doesn't matter all that much.

 

As to damaging ecosystems, many organisms damage their ecosystems, sometimes beyond repair. The most common are bacteria, viruses (not really an organism, but a replicator nonetheless), some fungi and larger parasites, who can often kill it's host - and die with it. But other organisms do it as well.

Similarly, if we are not careful. we might destroy our ecosystem and die - but that would most likely require a catastrophy (like a worldwide nuclear war) because of how widespread we are as a species, and how quickly we can adapt. 

I would say it is more likely that we will be wiped out by microorganisms, because our defenses against them are horribly inadequate, compared to our defenses and adaptations against larger organisms.

 

Still no. And you might still want to actually read up the definition. After all it's useless trying to discuss a point when one side evidently has little understanding of what the point actually is

Natural selection is a process, in which organisms that are better adapted to the environment tend to survive and produce more offspring.

That's it. 

Apparently lions are not so well adapted to compete with humans. If it was the other way round, they wouldn't be on a brink of being endangered. 



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I can almost hear the evil cackle with that post.

 

It's almost like a Jojolouge.



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Ah, I so love the hypocrisy of people, who think it's acceptable to kill some animals and not the others.

 

I mean, how could anyone possibly kill a lion! It's basically a big cat, and cat's are so cute! You wouldn't kill a cat, would you?

Men are such monsters for killing those innocent wild animals for trophies!

 

But killing billions of cows, pigs and chickens for food is fine. Killing other animals for fur is fine. 

Hell, sitting with a fishing rod near a lake or a river is apparently fine too, despite the fact, that most of those people do it for fun, and not for food. 

 

Those people are opposed only to killing animals they perceive as beautiful or cute, apart from a handful of those, who oppose killing all animals. 

I honestly don't know which of those two groups is worse. 

 

Animals die out. They had been dying out before humans came, and will be dying out long after our species is no more. 

That''s how natural selection works. 

 

There is a difference between killing animals for food and killing animals purely for sport. Lions, whose numbers have dropped from 100,000 to 30,000 or so in the last 50 years also can't be compared to cattle, pigs, or chickens...none of which are at risk for extinction.

 

There is nothing natural about the decline in lions. It is all caused by man and habitat loss. 

 

I agree with you about the fur industry however.


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I can almost hear the evil cackle with that post.

 

It's almost like a Jojolouge.

We may need all the JoJo's to team up together to beat this one.

 

And Dio may need to help them.



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I just want there to be grass.

 

Why? So pigs can get fat and we can get large chunks of bacon!

 

Well.

 

You can always once you died, allow your body to be send to a pig farm and let them eat you. No funeral costs and you help the pigs too.


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Natural selection is a process, in which organisms that are better adapted to the environment tend to survive and produce more offspring.

That's it. 

Apparently lions are not so well adapted to compete with humans. If it was the other way round, they wouldn't be on a brink of being endangered. 

 

Oh great, you looked up the definition (or whichever simplistic summary you happened to find). Now, how about applying it properly?

 

Because you're pretty focused on the whole competition thing and somehow forgot we're talking about a preservation habitat being the locale of the situation this topic is about. So tell me, how is it relevant to try and argue natural selection when the whole situation at hands occured in an environment intended to preserve its populations by artifical selection.

 

By design, there is no competition between lions (or any other species settled there) and humans.

 

So ... come again?


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Apparently lions are not so well adapted to compete with humans. If it was the other way round, they wouldn't be on a brink of being endangered. 

I'm pretty sure ebola and cockroaches are the only things that might be able to make a run at humanity



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I'm pretty sure ebola and cockroaches are the only things that might be able to make a run at humanity

 

Might want to scratch ebola of that list. Just a couple days ago I read that an effective vaccine is ready. 100% efficacy is the word, though that's based on tests with limited subjects.