N7 is love, N7 is life.
Seriously though, Mass Effect is a big part of my life. I love the Alliance, and if it was real, I would join and hope to be accepted into the ICT/N7 program. I favor Cerberus more, and I'd probably join them if they approached me first.
^This^, so much this.
I'm going to be an N7 Cerberus Spectre.
I disagree. I think by ME3, they've watered down being an N7 by allowing nearly everyone to be a part of the program (including alien species). Whereas, even doing the Reaper invasion, only one notable person was appointed to be a Spectre (Ashley/Kaidan). But, even though they were now a Spectre, they did not seem to have the same privileges that Shepard had as a Spectre.
They did not have command of their own crew or ship. Only mission they were tasked with was "protecting" the council from Kai Leng and Cerberus.
That is one way to look at it. For me though I see it as evidence of the narrative placing an even stronger emphasis on being an N7.
All the troops fighting on the ground being made honorific N7s, and the title being treated like it's some coveted position that everyone in the galaxy wants.
Then Ashley/Kaidan being made a Spectre; which turns out to be a minor footnote in either character's life; and their entire role after being granted the most prestigious/powerful military title in the galaxy is they wind up being nothing more than a glorified bodyguard. The narrative makes a bigger deal out of Vega being accepted into the N7 program than it does Ashley/Kaidan's appointment to Spectre status.
It's a little symbol that appears on some of the guns that I can put on my quarians. Have no idea what it is supposed to mean because lolSP.
It's a little symbol that appears on some of the guns that I can put on my quarians. Have no idea what it is supposed to mean because lolSP.
Do the Quarians have an elite program? (serious question)
No, but remember that a lot of people joined N7 in terms of the multiplayer lore.
So technically, N7 has a lot of species in it now.
It's means that your power level is over 9000.
*proving that you can make hip references even if you've never seen pokemon and don't know anything about it.*
No, but remember that a lot of people joined N7 in terms of the multiplayer lore.
So technically, N7 has a lot of species in it now.
Yes, which in my opinion waters down the the N7 reputation for me. Sure N7 allowing aliens to join was convenience for the multiplayer, but even in SP, it just took away that a few elite soldiers were selected to the N7 program, and that even fewer graduated.
And Spectre's? They are supposed to the best of the best, highly skilled and trained soldiers the galaxy has to offer, reduced to bodyguard duty, and following orders from a former Spectre and N7 operative...
Yes, which in my opinion waters down the the N7 reputation for me. Sure N7 allowing aliens to join was convenience for the multiplayer, but even in SP, it just took away that a few elite soldiers were selected to the N7 program, and that even fewer graduated.
And Spectre's? They are supposed to the best of the best, highly skilled and trained soldiers the galaxy has to offer, reduced to bodyguard duty, and following orders from a former Spectre and N7 operative...
For the record, I have my Best of the Best banner (I just never wear it 'cuz hipster 
) So all the N7 Aliens on my profile are totally legit. >8)
Do the Quarians have an elite program? (serious question)
According to the codex, there are the Flotilla's DT Troopers, and DSUQ.
Apparently, the DT stands for "duct tape" since the quarian soldier that covers his or herself in the most adhesive tape is less likely to come into contact with deadly, deadly bactera. These soldiers are eclipsed by the DSUQ, or Dove Soap Using Quarians -- soldiers that cleanse with the world's leading antibacterial soap after every battle.
Yes, which in my opinion waters down the the N7 reputation for me. Sure N7 allowing aliens to join was convenience for the multiplayer, but even in SP, it just took away that a few elite soldiers were selected to the N7 program, and that even fewer graduated.
And Spectre's? They are supposed to the best of the best, highly skilled and trained soldiers the galaxy has to offer, reduced to bodyguard duty, and following orders from a former Spectre and N7 operative...
Well, think of it this way.
it was an unofficial nickname they let go, which means through adversity of the reapers and what not they probably get in.
The special ops of N7 then becomes the primary focus of the Spectres, so they merge into one program.
Flash-forward x amount of years, the program is still tough as nails, dropout rates are high.
No, but remember that a lot of people joined N7 in terms of the multiplayer lore.
So technically, N7 has a lot of species in it now.
Which imo is dumb. N7's are the Alliance Military's elite, which is going to be solely human with the exception of other species that have become citz or similar. And of those, I would imagine there is very few.
That is one way to look at it. For me though I see it as evidence of the narrative placing an even stronger emphasis on being an N7.
All the troops fighting on the ground being made honorific N7s, and the title being treated like it's some coveted position that everyone in the galaxy wants.
Then Ashley/Kaidan being made a Spectre; which turns out to be a minor footnote in either character's life; and their entire role after being granted the most prestigious/powerful military title in the galaxy is they wind up being nothing more than a glorified bodyguard. The narrative makes a bigger deal out of Vega being accepted into the N7 program than it does Ashley/Kaidan's appointment to Spectre status.
I actually look at that completely reversed of what you describe.
All the troops on the ground being made honorific N7's? If anything that has just watered down what an N7 is, because those people haven't proven their skills, they aren't the elite of the Alliance military, but as well I would think the responsibilities / access of the title is a big factor, and they haven't reached that trust factor. So just handing it out at a whim makes it worthless.
Spectre on the other hand, is not just one races elite status, but all of them in the council. You are also not just a soldier, as the role requires much more skills in that regard more akin to super cop investigator of the galaxy. As well, you have authority to conduct business in all council races backyard. There is a reason why it was such a massive step for a human to be granted such a title, which would vastly dwarf the N7. Even if the narrative didn't focus on it that much in the 3rd game changes nothing in which is more important.
In the end I see them as two different types of entities. N7 I see as just how the advertise it, best of the best special forces, similar to Navy Seals and SAS.
Spectre on the other hand is more like CIA Spook, a person that is very capable in combat, but his strongest abilities is Espionage skills, investigating and turning situations into favorable or controllable outcomes. The Spook would also have a much higher security clearance and understand what he is seeing.
Which imo is dumb. N7's are the Alliance Military's elite, which is going to be solely human with the exception of other species that have become citz or similar. And of those, I would imagine there is very few.
Well, it is a bit silly, but hey, the lore made it so 
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I am being a bit sarcastic here, it is just another example of how things can change to fit the confines of the story they are trying to tell, and the explanation given is sufficient enough to tell it.
I just thought the N7's were sorta like the Spectres of the Alliance
You CAN save the universe without cowtowing to a massive plot hole, aka Starbrat AND not killing yourself in the process. That would have made for some more varied endings at any rate.
I just thought the N7's were sorta like the Spectres of the Alliance
It's hard for N7 to actually mean anything when it has no context. No one ever really tells you what it means and Shepard never talks about it. It's supposed to be analogous to SEAL Team Six or something like it, right? Well we never see an N7 team in action and Shepard never talks about what he did as an N7.
All it is is a visual marker for Shepard, like Batman's bat logo on his chest.
Yeah that's how I feel about it. I mean it's cool and all, as a symbol for Shepard, but I don't see the point of having it in the new game unless it actually means something.
N7 means to me: those guys/girls (with swords!!) I can't unlock. And there are those other guys who I did unlock but don't use because they are not compatible with my playstyle I'm too noob. What's the point of having a sword when the badguy equivalent can be destroyed with bullets?
They do have swords, though.
N7 to me means the best of the best, the most elite.
Though, thats kinda loosely done in regards to the game.
I think it previously was the best of the best, an elite, human force -
But now its more of a nominal, symbolic type of title that represents those who echo Shepherds values.
Also, marketing. 
N7 means to me: those guys/girls (with swords!!) I can't unlock. And there are those other guys who I did unlock but don't use because
they are not compatible with my playstyleI'm too noob. What's the point of having a sword when the badguy equivalent can be destroyed with bullets?
They do have swords, though.
I don't think N7 is a particularly important piece of ME lore. I played through ME1 and ME2 without really knowing exactly what it meant. Obviously Bioware think it's a great thing to focus marketing on and place a greater storytelling influence around, not convinced this is a good idea. N7 day is kind of cool though, that's probably what it means the most to me, that we will get some cool little extra from the devs on November the 7th.
Melee weapons are always valuable in combat in real life, to a degree. They don't run out of bullets or overheat, they're quiet, sometimes the enemy is too close or too fast to target, and sometimes they aren't defending against a melee attack (your Kevlar vest is great and all until someone sneaks up behind you and slits your throat).
The thing is, they just become significantly less useful as warfare continues to advance to the point that soldiers dont commonly find themselves in a position to use them.
Which made their inclusion in Mass Effect particularly irritating. The omniblade I dont mind - the utility of that is obvious. But having soldiers SOLELY use a sword? Come on.
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