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#101
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It's means that your power level is over 9000.

 

 

*proving that you can make hip references even if you've never seen pokemon and don't know anything about it.*

 

I don't know much about pokemon but I'm fairly sure it has nothing to do with the over 9000 meme :P



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And if I was a major Star Wars nerd, I would give a ****. But alas...


No wonder you're so hateful against sweet bladed combat.

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Alot of things.



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To be fair, both Admiral Anderson and Kai Leng were both N7 Operatives.  Both were incredibly skilled soldiers in their prime and James Vega was just as skilled, if only a tad inexperienced.  Had we run into several N7 operatives, I think it would've made the rank feel cheaper, since it's considered the highest rank of proficiency in Alliance Special Forces.  That being said, it would've been nice to come across some of the lower N-Ranks throughout the series.  James must've been N6 at the start of Mass Effect 3, but it was never stated outright.

 

I think the problem lies with the N-Ranking system not being a title like Sergeant or Captain.  No one says, "N7 Commander Shepard."  For all we know, we could've come across others in the series, but it was simply never stated.  It would've been just another Major or Lieutenant.



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I don't know much about pokemon but I'm fairly sure it has nothing to do with the over 9000 meme :P

Vegeta said that in the Saiyan Saga in DBZ...so on topic! It mean's Special forces and/or black ops and not just Shepard or ME1, 2, & 3.



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Not exactly what I meant. But I'll throw something else out there. Vibroswords. 'member those?

As I said earlier bullet deflection isn't necessary to throw in ME, too much Star Wars, but that doesn't mean a blade wouldn't have its uses. People seem to be fine with using an omni-blade all day without talking about how ridiculous it is or how illogical it is in futuristic fictional setting. It can't deflect bullets either and its not meant to.

Sword's were outpaced by tech many year's ago, and ME is in the future, AND ME: A is even further in the future...no a sword will not be useful or prcticle unless you run out of amm, OH WAIT we have the Omni-Dagger-I mean Omni-Blade for that! Much more practicle, a dagger is.


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N7 = special forces designation, the next level of training up from national special forces training. i always saw it as taking applicants from the national services' special forces be it Russian Marines, SAS or US SEAL teams, then taking these elite fighters and running them through N7 training to find the Elite of the Elite. And then the Spectre forces was taking the elite of the elite from all the races and finding the best from that group.

 

It should be noted that Shepard never actually went through the proper and normal process of becoming a Spectre. The Sovereign crisis followed by your death meant Shepard sort of skipped the normal training and evaluation process of the Spectre program and then there was the Reaper invasion which sort of interrupted Shepard's training again. Damn reapers.

 

I found that N7 was an added piece of lore that gave a little more depth to ME setting. It wasn't a key piece it wasn't a required piece but it's inclusion made the game more than it would have been. It also resonated with a lot of people as you can see N7 fan art on books, on bags and what not that isn't bioware store bought. So it seems to resonate as a symbol of ME for a lot of fans. 



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Sword's were outpaced by tech many year's ago, and ME is in the future, AND ME: A is even further in the future...no a sword will not be useful or prcticle unless you run out of amm, OH WAIT we have the Omni-Dagger-I mean Omni-Blade for that! Much more practicle, a dagger is.

Spears yes daggers meh.

 

yeah that argument of the gun outpacing the blade has been made ever generation since the firearm was invented and each generation the blade has remained standard infantry equipment. The bayonet turns a rifle into a spear. The blade will always remain vital tool of the infantry and really the dagger is the least efficient use of the blade, turning a rifle into a spear is far more useful. It is why bayonets appeared with in a generation of firearms being used in standing armies and then it took an other generation for armies to adopt it universally and no army has since given it up. It is far too useful and much more effective than just stabbing someone with it as a dagger. The omni tool blade is cool but it is the worse way to use that technology, every rifle in the ME should have a omni blade on the rifle. Long arms and even pistols are less effective the closer the enemy is, which is why all armed forces teach spear techniques err sorry bayonet techniques which are really spear techniques. 

 

(I am not saying there are no practical uses of the bayonet as a dagger only that in most situations, again not all but most situations a bayonet as a spear is better than a bayonet as a dagger. But this holds true with a sword as well you are better to have 10 armed men trained to work as a team armed with spears then you are to have the same team of men armed with swords. Which is why the sword is no longer seen on the battlefield but the spear is still standard infantry equipment.)



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Spears yes daggers meh.

 

yeah that argument of the gun outpacing the blade has been made ever generation since the firearm was invented and each generation the blade has remained standard infantry equipment. The bayonet turns a rifle into a spear. The blade will always remain vital tool of the infantry and really the dagger is the least efficient use of the blade, turning a rifle into a spear is far more useful. It is why bayonets appeared with in a generation of firearms being used in standing armies and then it took an other generation for armies to adopt it universally and no army has since given it up. It is far too useful and much more effective than just stabbing someone with it as a dagger. The omni tool blade is cool but it is the worse way to use that technology, every rifle in the ME should have a omni blade on the rifle. Long arms and even pistols are less effective the closer the enemy is, which is why all armed forces teach spear techniques err sorry bayonet techniques which are really spear techniques. 

 

(I am not saying there are no practical uses of the bayonet as a dagger only that in most situations, again not all but most situations a bayonet as a spear is better than a bayonet as a dagger. But this holds true with a sword as well you are better to have 10 armed men trained to work as a team armed with spears then you are to have the same team of men armed with swords. Which is why the sword is no longer seen on the battlefield but the spear is still standard infantry equipment.)

I'm not against practical blade's(Omni-Blad+variant's, and a Bayonete), but sword's and bow's have no place in moder or future combat...well modern bow's don't glow and are much more silent than bullet's used with suppressor(but less range obviously with an arow) but Omni-Bow would glow and make more noise defeating the purpose of using a bow in modern time's.



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I'm not against practical blade's(Omni-Blad+variant's, and a Bayonete), but sword's and bow's have no place in moder or future combat...well modern bow's don't glow and are much more silent than bullet's used with suppressor(but less range obviously with an arow) but Omni-Bow would glow and make more noise defeating the purpose of using a bow in modern time's.


Yea but Kai Leng! Ok... That guy is hated. So I have one better. Remember Serenity? The Muhfukin Operative! Yes! Yes?

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Yea but Kai Leng! Ok... That guy is hated. So I have one better. Remember Serenity? The Muhfukin Operative! Yes! Yes?

People who had to be severely overpowered to make them a threat? Sure, now imagine them with all that power and a prototype or experimental gun to complement them. Much more scary then.



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I'm not against practical blade's(Omni-Blad+variant's, and a Bayonete), but sword's and bow's have no place in moder or future combat...well modern bow's don't glow and are much more silent than bullet's used with suppressor(but less range obviously with an arow) but Omni-Bow would glow and make more noise defeating the purpose of using a bow in modern time's.

You're in the mass effect world. Shields get activated by extremely quick projectiles but don't from the speed of a melee weapon. There is a place for them. Alternatively in the real world you can't unload an entire clip of an assault rifle into the hide of a Brute and need to reload, therefore the Biotically powered rage of a Krogan Warlords hammer attack has a place as well. 

 

Regardless of all that however, gameplay is really important. Getting in close and using melee is an interesting and well balanced aspect of gameplay. I don't want it removed from the game just because some people find it unrealistic in a world with guns. Yes it is a little unrealistic but it has been handled well in ME3.



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You're in the mass effect world. Shields get activated by extremely quick projectiles but don't from the speed of a melee weapon. There is a place for them. Alternatively in the real world you can't unload an entire clip of an assault rifle into the hide of a Brute and need to reload, therefore the Biotically powered rage of a Krogan Warlords hammer attack has a place as well. 

 

Regardless of all that however, gameplay is really important. Getting in close and using melee is an interesting and well balanced aspect of gameplay. I don't want it removed from the game just because some people find it unrealistic in a world with guns. Yes it is a little unrealistic but it has been handled well in ME3.

Ok so a Krogan can effectively use one...that's MP anyway if it's player controlled so doesn't effect me. Also Shield's do apparently activate against melee as they take out shields, so what are we going by the lore or the gamplay wich often ignore's that lore?



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Ok so a Krogan can effectively use one...that's MP anyway if it's player controlled so doesn't effect me. Also Shield's do apparently activate against melee as they take out shields, so what are we going by the lore or the gamplay wich often ignore's that lore?

Well you were making a lore argument so I felt the need to point out that weapons are not completely useless by the lore.

 

Gameplay will never follow lore completely and nor should it try. First and foremost is how it plays. You could make it so that melee attacks ignored shields in gameplay (and quite a few enemy attacks do) but it may feel like too much of a complication so I would be prepared to ignore that.

 

It's not just the Krogan of course. The different melee attacks were a big part of MPer gameplay for quite a few kits.



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Well you were making a lore argument so I felt the need to point out that weapons are not completely useless by the lore.

Not realy beside's how dumb a glowing bow is, I was making a comon sense argument. I didn't mind sword's or bow's or whatever else they added to MP as that wasn't in the main game so not as noticeable to the majority of SP player's, heck I didn't know they were in MP until MPer's wanted them put in SP and used that as why they should be. I would prefer SP to be more realistic/plausible and those medievil weapon's are just a dumb gimik and would be better left to the MP mode.



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N7 is nice to look at, even gives the hearty 'feels' sometimes despite its long-ranged assortment of mystique, but yes I gotta agree it would've done a lotta good to see Shepard's background a little in order for his getting this high level of power and influence in the universe. Then that fixes up some mysteries of Shepard's past and gives some closer personal connection to him and his 'other' life, gets you more into his/her thought process, ay? But mysteries are good and could be the whole point. Either way, it turned out so fine.