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Wulfsten

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So this glitch has been affecting a lot of people, and I noticed it in my very first playthrough way back in December, but haven't checked in on it until now.

 

Basically the glitch is that after taking "Master Focus", unlocking your focus meter up to 300 and allowing you to use Level 3 Focus Abilities, when the Inquisitor dies their Maximum Focus is reset to 100. This doesn't affect other party members, just the Inquisitor.

 

Has anyone found a workaround for this, or know if there's any kind of patch incoming? It's not massively annoying, as I'm not very reliant on focus abilities in general and even then it's only a partial nerf to one of four party members' focus abilities, but it would still be better off resolved.



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So this glitch has been affecting a lot of people, and I noticed it in my very first playthrough way back in December, but haven't checked in on it until now.

 

Basically the glitch is that after taking "Master Focus", unlocking your focus meter up to 300 and allowing you to use Level 3 Focus Abilities, when the Inquisitor dies their Maximum Focus is reset to 100. This doesn't affect other party members, just the Inquisitor.

 

Has anyone found a workaround for this, or know if there's any kind of patch incoming? It's not massively annoying, as I'm not very reliant on focus abilities in general and even then it's only a partial nerf to one of four party members' focus abilities, but it would still be better off resolved.

Patched long ago, along with the exploit that let a Tempest do infinite Thousand Cuts at max focus by using Flask of Fire.  =]

 

Hang on, are you saying you saw this happen as of Patch 8? I've never seen it myself, unless you are saying you see all 3 bars be full, but in actuality, you only get 100 points of focus? That would be harder to notice -- you'd have to count things like the number of cuts you get with Thousand Cuts, or the duration of Haste or Counterstrike, etc.

 

Got a link/reference for "affecting a lot of people"?



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Well it just happened to me last night and my version of the game is fully updated on the ps4.

In terms of what it is, I get to full level three focus, but then after using the focus ability once my meter will only fill back up to 100. This is visible on the Hud because only one third of the circle is filled, and is also visible in the character record screen, which shows my maximum focus as being 100 while my other party members have 300, which should be impossible.

As far as other people having this problem goes, I did a webs each and found loads of people having the same problem a few months ago, and I didn't see an explicit fix listed in the patch notes...

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Had this happen in my last PT too.

 

I had saved up my Focus to fight Hakkon, can't remember if I died before the fight, but when I wanted to fight the Dragon, my Focus was somewhere by 1 full Focus bar 1/4 of the second and I know I hadn't used the Focus ability in a long time. (I only use it in Dragon fights, or really hard bosses)



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This seems to also happen if you have Advanced Focus (200) and let the inquisitor die.



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Wait so THAT'S WHY THAT HAPPENED. I thought that party members just normally lost focus when they died.



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Damn, at least the Focus Gain bug was fixed.



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Well I'll keep a watch for it. I just recently perked for max focus and filled up my Champion to 300. I can go make him die and see what happens. Does it matter if you die while its full or empty?



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CONFIRMED on PC, but there is a workaround.

 

I set up a test. Had 300 full focus. Used focus skill. Let myself get killed. Party members finished the battle without reviving me. Got back up, then ran around killing things, could only fill up to 100. Did at least enough attacks to fill to 200, nothing.

 

Did a save at that point and then reloaded. Bar still 100.

 

Glitch cleared. Was able to charge focus above 100 after reloading from save.



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Yes, it's an old bug that was never fixed, and as noted, a simple save/load should allow you to begin building up focus to the actual cap (you'll still lose any focus you had already built up).

Given how frequently it's been reported, one assumes BioWare is aware of it; a fix seems unlikely after so long.
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Fair enough. If you can just save and reload as soon as you hit around 100 Focus, it's not that big a deal any way. That's a good workaround. Thanks PapaCharlie9!



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Actually there's a new glitch on top of this glitch that I've been experiencing on PC.

 

 

Evidently firestorm is totally bugged for me on multiple different playthroughs, where I can only cast a level 1 firestorm despite having a full tier 3 bar and "fresh" (not having died) characters. I think Rally was another one that wasn't working right, as well.

 

 

And, of course, the old focus glitch still exists, as well. If any character dies, he/she will only be casting tier 1's.


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Firestorm has always been weird (there have long been reports that the number of meteors to drop is inconsistent).

It's possible it works differently than we may expect (maybe it only drops meteors if there are targets to hit, or maybe it just groups the damage while keeping the overall length of the effect the same). Or it could just be bugged.

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It's not just firestorm apparently. I just posted over in scuttlebutt (cuz ppl might actually read it there... possibly).

 

But Thousand Cuts is now doing NO DAMAGE at all. The only part that does damage is at the very end where sera leaps down on her target. That's with a full tier 3 focus bar.

 

Can anyone else test this out to confirm?

 

 

Firestorm is still broken. Rally is broken. And I think counterstrike is broken.   <---Tier 1's when there's a tier 3 focus charge.

 

 

Also walking bomb still doesn't do damage on explosion.... This is really bad.



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Yeah dying brings anyone to 1 bar of focus.
Which sucks.


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It's not just firestorm apparently. I just posted over in scuttlebutt (cuz ppl might actually read it there... possibly).

 

But Thousand Cuts is now doing NO DAMAGE at all. The only part that does damage is at the very end where sera leaps down on her target. That's with a full tier 3 focus bar.

 

Can anyone else test this out to confirm?

 

 

Firestorm is still broken. Rally is broken. And I think counterstrike is broken.   <---Tier 1's when there's a tier 3 focus charge.

 

 

Also walking bomb still doesn't do damage on explosion.... This is really bad.

Just did Counterstrike in WEWH vs. Lady Florianne, worked perfectly. Had 3 bars, got 3 bars of duration. PC. Patch 9.

 

Just used Rally in Abyss vs. Fear Demon, worked perfectly. Had 3 bars, and I believe I got 3 bars worth, though that is harder to judge. Certainly my warriors with extra guard capacity still filled up to max.

 

TC does fail, but for me, only rarely. It seems to depend on whether there is a target (gold reticle) and what the target is. For example, it tends to fail more frequently if I target a high dragon's head, but works fine if I target a limb.

 

-If there is a skill called "Firestorm", I am unaware of it. Certainly not one I typically use.- Ha, I looked it up. I had no idea that was the name of Solas's focus ability, I always think of it as "Meteor Storm". I think I've used it twice, lifetime total.


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snip

 

Yeah I had thought this bug wasn't relevant, until I realized that my characters were dying and being resurrected instantly by vivienne.

 

Focus abilities do work--except firestorm, which is persistently bugged.

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to test this out, though. It helps confirm that it is related to the master focus perk, and not with the abilities themselves.



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Well it just happened to me last night and my version of the game is fully updated on the ps4.

In terms of what it is, I get to full level three focus, but then after using the focus ability once my meter will only fill back up to 100. This is visible on the Hud because only one third of the circle is filled, and is also visible in the character record screen, which shows my maximum focus as being 100 while my other party members have 300, which should be impossible.

As far as other people having this problem goes, I did a webs each and found loads of people having the same problem a few months ago, and I didn't see an explicit fix listed in the patch notes...

I assumed that losing focusd was intended on death, you mean its a bug? are you certain?



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Don't know if anybody is certain.  But if it is intended, why don't they drop you to zero focus instead of "100%"?



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Don't know if anybody is certain.  But if it is intended, why don't they drop you to zero focus instead of "100%"?

If your not quite at 100%, it will drop you to zero. But seems once your past 100% on the way to 300% it seems to drop you to 100%. I have had it drop me from 300% to 0% if I died in a fight a few times for some weird reason.



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Yeah, I noticed Firestorm was bugged in SP all the way back to patch 6 or something (I forgot the specific number) but it seemed no one cared. Now there are multiple tier 3 abilities glitched? I guess between the game being old and only a fraction of players unlocking & using tier 3 abilities, enough people didn't notice and therefore not enough people will complain to justify this being patched :(



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I assumed that losing focusd was intended on death, you mean its a bug? are you certain?

The problem isn't losing focus on death, it's that after dying, your max focus can get capped at 100 (one bar).
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The problem isn't losing focus on death, it's that after dying, your max focus can get capped at 100 (one bar).

Oh, I have never had this happen. Maybe they fixed it. And Iv done around 50-75 hour play throughs about 5 times now. 

 

Oh wait never mind, I do know what your talking about, I don't think it gets capped at 100, you just get it lowered to 100 and can't get any more focus gained until you reload a zone.... Wait I guess thats pretty much same thing lol.

 

But yea reloading a zone will fix that issue, and I have had to deal with that a few times.


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