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[stop_him]

Hear, hear. I hate playing human PCs in fantasy games! I romanced Cullen with my elf, and enjoyed that playthrough the most. Female qunari is a close second.

 

It sucks that we are the minority. Most gamers prefer humans, specifically human male protagonists. We may be SOL next game. Blah!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I can't imagine loving DAI nearly as much if the game was just about another Andrastian human noble climbing the Andrastian social ladder, serving the Chantry and quoting "Magic exists to serve to serve man and never rule over him" enough times to make it into a drinking game. The game would be so boring!

To be fair, when it was going to be human-only there was going to be a variety of backgrounds you could choose from. When the different races were added, those other backgrounds were assimilated into those races, albeit being changed to fit the races. 

 

But yeah, I'm very glad they brought race selection back. Hopefully it is a feature that is here to stay in all future DA games and hopefully adopted into Bioware's other games. 

[Andraste_Reborn]

I also want race selection back for future games. I may actually have shed a tear the day we found out we could play dwarves again.

 

However, I also try to keep in mind that BioWare didn't cut race selection from DA2 on a whim. In both Origins and Inquisition, 80% of PCs were human. Now, the fact that only a minority of players experience something isn't necessarily a good reason to cut it - only a minority of players ever make a female character, or a rogue, or complete a romance, or finish the game. And I would be pretty annoyed if BioWare used that as an excuse to make the PC male, get rid of rogues, not put in any romances and not put an ending on DA4.

 

Yet I also understand that they need to consider where their zots are best expended. While I think the dwarf commoner origin is one of the best things in DAO, only 2% of players experienced it. It's difficult to argue that it was a good investment of resources. Going forward, if they do keep race selection (fingers crossed!) I think it's more likely to be done as it was in DAI, where the variations are mainly in the dialogue.

[Just My Moniker]

So much yes! Dragon Age just isn't the same without being able to play as the other races. I'll be extremely disappointed if it isnt kept for DA4.

The extra year DAI took was totally worth it, though hopefully they go into DA4 with multiple races in mind instead.

[Eelectrica]

Agreed. +1 for race selection.
It's a way to keep play throughs unique.

[9TailsFox]

I will be the first who say I always play human and don't care for race selection. Please don't kill me. But I think DA:I should have bin elf only. And hope DA4 return to having only one race.

[duckley]

Probably in the minority but I don't care about race selection. I care more about a great  story - deep and rich and interesting.

 

I also care more about the protagonist's personality. I feel Quizzy was sort of bland as there was no real back story - no conversations about who he was, how he felt about being the sole survivor, how he felt about being the leader of the Inquisition based on some freak accident. I wanted to learn about the Inquisitor's family, his beliefs etc etc. To get that kind of depth is hard when you have to do it for multiple races.... Most games that have race choice (i.e. Skyrim) don't have protagonists with much depth IMO.

 

Seeing the story of Geralt evolve - seeing how he has grown and developed over the course of three games has been truly awe-inspiring. When you can play with a character of that depth - it is hard going back.

 

Bioware did a good job in DA:O creating multiple race protagonists  each of whom had a story, perspective, and even a bit of personality. I think that will become increasingly harder to do with the increased number of races and having to do MP too. So that's why I am actually hoping for a one race protagonist.

 

My other issue is that when I play RPGs and can create my own character I want that character to be gorgeous. The Bioware Elves,Qunari, and Dwarves are not to my taste - so I cant imagine ever wanting to play as one of those races. I did play as an Elf in DA:O but the Elves then got kind of weird looking so I cant bring myself to play as a non-human. Sad but true - I am so shallow LOL

[Sidney]

Race selection was what it do often is, not very good . Elves were great, humans meh and dwarves and Qunari stunk. In DAO other than the rightly lauded origin story the rest of the game was 99.5% exactly the same story for everyone.

Having a single race means that rather than have a grossly generic story with a protagonist of any race they could focus a story specifically around that particular character's rather than just re-skin the protagonist.

[Winged Silver]

Same! I find it adds a lot of replayability to the game, when one can experience it from different positions on the Thedas social ladder

 

My only hope going forward is that they put more emphasis on differentiating the races. In Inquisition, I thought there were some missed opportunities to include qunari or dwarf specific moments (I believe I heard somewhere that no one says jack about a dwarf in particular entering the fade. A dwarf, who has otherwise likely never experienced the fade, actually going in, and no one says anything like "Huh...you've never really seen the Fade or even dreamed, huh? How weird was that?") 

 

But yes, more races seems like a good call. Since they keep telling us the Dragon Age series is about the Thedas, only makes sense to allow players to experience Thedas in all forms

[Rawgrim]

Of course it will be back for the next DA game. Can't have an MMO without race selection.

[HuldraDancer]

Sure as long as some of the races don't get screwed out of armor again *coughqunaricough* Maybe I just had very bad luck with the loot system but nearly everything I came across in a majority of my playthroughs was human and elf only, and having patches that actually removed the ability to equip armor on some of the other races *coughqunaricough* didn't make it much better. I mean I mostly play dwarf but still that was really sucky imo.

 

But I do like the idea of being able to play as something other than human, just if they're gonna do the race restrict armor stuff again it'd be nice if it was less skewed in favor of humans and elves.

[AutumnWitch]

Well said! I for one can say if they didn't have the choice to play as Elven I would not have bought the game.

 

Now that I have over 20 play-throughs and have played as all races and classes and supported both the Mage and Templars, I can say an Elven Inquisitor seems to be the best choice considering what happens in the game. Tho I did really enjoy playing as both a Dwarf and Qunari. The human run throughs seemed flat and boring and smacked of "The Noble human coming to save the savages from themselves".

[Saphiron123]

They need to bring back origins, give the races some flavor. I was disappointed to see everyone given the same backstory.

[correctamundo]

Definitely support race selection! And gender! Never had a "bland" Inquisitor. Still much to do.

[lynroy]

+1
I love having the option. It adds a nice little flavor to the game.

[PhroXenGold]

My problem is that race is implemented in a half assed way. It's basically just cosmetic. There's a few dialogues here and there, and of course a couple of romances are race gated, but the game feels just the same playing as a human noble as it does a qunari apostate. Which, given how the lore presents Thedas, is utterly ridiculous, glowy hand or no.

[BraveVesperia]

Well said, OP! I can't imagine having all those elfy reveals in DAI and never being able to experience them as an elf (especially a female elf romancing Solas). It really enriches my connection to the story and lore. And I love being able to replay as human/dwarf/qunari.

 

Hopefully if they focus on race variety from the start in DA4, we'll get more content for everyone too. That's the one thing I would've improved about DAI's races, and that's probably because they were an afterthought.

[chrstnmonks]

I wouldn't mind if they scrapped it for the next game. I will take richer deeper story with more meaningful content over race selection anyday. Or if they do race selection limit it to human and elf only. I think DAI works best with human and elf. As it stands dwarf and qunari make no sense.

[Felya87]

Race selection is the only motive I've buyed DAI. If it was again human only, I wouldn't have spent money on it. I never play human if I can. Is a fantasy game, I play a fantasy character.

 

Is not the same level of DAO, yes. There are no playable origins, and many things could be done better, and more things could be added. But for being stuff added "plus", it came out quite well. I think with having from the start in mind race selection, the game would have been better.

But I'm already happy. I love all my Inquisitors, just like I loved all my Wardens. I really hope race selection will be back in the next games.

[Rawgrim]

My problem is that race is implemented in a half assed way. It's basically just cosmetic. There's a few dialogues here and there, and of course a couple of romances are race gated, but the game feels just the same playing as a human noble as it does a qunari apostate. Which, given how the lore presents Thedas, is utterly ridiculous, glowy hand or no.

 

Quite true. But I think a simple cosmetic choice for race is still better than none.

[Andraste_Reborn]

As it stands dwarf and qunari make no sense.

 

Are dwarves and qunari incapable of randomly picking up magic balls? Because that's the sole qualification for becoming Inquisitor.

[Sidney]

Quite true. But I think a simple cosmetic choice for race is still better than none.

It is worse to me. The fact that these races are supposed to be different and there is lore about how they have different experiences...then the fact that the game plays the same, sucks. Imagine a game about the 1930's USA where you can pick white, blakc, Hispanic for your race and then have the game play out exactly the same way other than every 10 hours getting flavor dialog where a non-white character gets called a racial epithet and then the conversation goes right back to normal. That is what DAO did with race selection. DAI is better for elves at least about it but overall each race would need a very different game experience. It would be great to have a game tailed specifically to telling a story in Thedas from an elven point of view but trying to cram 4 different experiences into one game ain't happening.

[PhroXenGold]

Quite true. But I think a simple cosmetic choice for race is still better than none.

 

In a vacuum, yes. But game development is limited in manpower and money, and adding races consumes resources. Resources which, due to the immersion breaking feel of playing non-human races in DA:I (i.e. the experience of playing an elf or qunari does not match what the lore of Thedas suggests it should be), are, for me at least, wasted, and thus could've been better spent elsewhere.

[correctamundo]

Are dwarves and qunari incapable of randomly picking up magic balls? Because that's the sole qualification for becoming Inquisitor.

 

Nah, dwarves don't dream so they can't pick up magic balls. It is lore-breaking.