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DRAGON AGE™: INQUISITION Official Trailer – The Descent (DLC)


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2 questions -

 

If Corypheus had the same type of calling ability like an Archdemon (as seen in Legacy) - Why did he not utilize his sway over the darkspawn in Inquisition?

 

Furthermore, why is he SO MUCH taller then my human inquisitor when he was human himself?


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2 questions -

 

If Corypheus had the same type of calling ability like an Archdemon (as seen in Legacy) - Why did he not utilize his sway over the darkspawn in Inquisition?

 

Furthermore, why is he SO MUCH taller then my human inquisitor when he was human himself?

I don't think he wanted to control darkspawn, that's all.  Maybe drowning out the call of the old gods is a strenuous effort.

 

The operative word is was...



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I know that a lot of people are wanting to see the Architect in The Descent DLC, and I will admit that it would be cool to run into him again, but I really hope that the Awakened are in this and that they play a big role in the story. 

 

As much as I hate to sound like a broken record, I would really like to see, and interact with something that is alien in nature like the Awaken were presented. I didn't particularly care for all the humanizing treatment that Thedas received in DA:I and the Awakened would provide the perfect faction/species that actually thinks and acts differently from everyone else. 

 

That and I really would like to see the Messenger again. He had a very interesting dichotomy about him, with his nature as a Darkspawn and his desire to help the other races; I just hope that he doesn't devolve into a trite Pinocchio troupe if and when we do get to see him again.



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If you were *really* clever, you'd take into account that a trailer wouldn't show story spoilers, and would focus on the most flashy and visually impressive parts of the DLC. Which isn't dialogue, as a rule.

I'm not saying it might not turn out to be a glorified dungeon crawl and nothing more, and I'd like that just as little as you, but it's impossible to tell from the trailer. Also, the DA team hasn't made a SP DLC or expansion with no story so far, and I don't expect them to change that now, given that people don't buy their games, as a rule, because they find the combat so impressive.

So, for now, I'm looking forward to Descent. There's time enough to complain after I know whether there's a reason for it.

 

I would love to be wrong, but so far this trailer showed absolutelly nothing more then the Inquisitor fighting hoards of Darkspawn. People put way too much faith in BW. Do they have such an short attention spam to forget all the times the completely disappointed us?

 

They are doing the exactly same formula as JoH. An elusive trailer only a couple of days before release. Most games announce their large scale trailer with more time before release. BW games are all about their story. Gameplay was never their main focus (not saying having good gameplay is an problem, mind you), and yet this seems only to focus on combat with an semblance of an plot tagging along.

 

This is what an story heavy DLC feels like:

 


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People put way too much faith in BW. Do they have such an short attention spam to forget all the times the completely disappointed us?

 

No, people just would rather wait for reviews and videos of the DLC to come out before jumping to conclusions about it it. Like reasonable consumers.


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... Do they have such an short attention spam to forget all the times the completely disappointed us? ...

 

I haven't been disappointed by BioWare (story) DLC since Golems of Amgarrak

(which I do note was ironically a deep roads dungeon crawl...).


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I haven't been disappointed by BioWare (story) DLC since Golems of Amgarrak

(which I do note was ironically a deep roads dungeon crawl...).

 

And Omega wasn't?



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Why do people always criticise negative reactions for jumping to conclusions, but not positive reactions?

It's the positive reactions which might cost you money. And low expectations lead to pleasant surprises.
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Why do people always criticise negative reactions for jumping to conclusions, but not positive reactions?

It's the positive reactions which might cost you money. And low expectations lead to pleasant surprises.

 

Probably because this forum's reputation precedes it.  :P



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Why do people always criticise negative reactions for jumping to conclusions, but not positive reactions?

It's the positive reactions which might cost you money. And low expectations lead to pleasant surprises.

 

You say this right after...

 

People put way too much faith in BW. Do they have such an short attention spam to forget all the times the completely disappointed us?

 

Seems to me there's plenty of criticism going around. I just prefer that it be warranted by something.



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Why can't people just let me be happy and excited about something without being killjoys? Just as it's okay for ya'll to be disappointed in something you've never played it's okay for me to be happy and excited about it. 

 

Just because Bioware has never disappointed me, personally, doesn't mean I blindly follow BW like a groupie. It just means I keep my expectations tampered, my positivity high, and I try to have fun no matter what I do. You guys really seem to hate happy people.


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Why can't people just let me be happy and excited about something without being killjoys? Just as it's okay for ya'll to be disappointed in something you've never played it's okay for me to be happy and excited about it. 

 

Just because Bioware has never disappointed me, personally, doesn't mean I blindly follow BW like a groupie. It just means I keep my expectations tampered, my positivity high, and I try to have fun no matter what I do. You guys really seem to hate happy people.

 

Pretty much the same, I don't see how anyone can be anything but optimistic at this point? We wanted DLC and we got it. If it sucks, so be it, but until then I assume it'll be awesome.

 

Plus the fact we know there is more DLC to come was icing on the cake for me.


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Why can't people just let me be happy and excited about something without being killjoys? Just as it's okay for ya'll to be disappointed in something you've never played it's okay for me to be happy and excited about it.

Just because Bioware has never disappointed me, personally, doesn't mean I blindly follow BW like a groupie. It just means I keep my expectations tampered, my positivity high, and I try to have fun no matter what I do. You guys really seem to hate happy people.

Sound like me :)

I've yet to be truly disappointed by a Bioware game. That doesn't mean I will mindlessly buy whatever they put out, but that I keep my expectations realistic while being optimistic until I see a reason not to be.
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Why can't people just let me be happy and excited about something without being killjoys? Just as it's okay for ya'll to be disappointed in something you've never played it's okay for me to be happy and excited about it. 
 
Just because Bioware has never disappointed me, personally, doesn't mean I blindly follow BW like a groupie. It just means I keep my expectations tampered, my positivity high, and I try to have fun no matter what I do. You guys really seem to hate happy people.


How are people stopping you from being happy and excited? They're just posting their opinions.
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Why can't people just let me be happy and excited about something without being killjoys? Just as it's okay for ya'll to be disappointed in something you've never played it's okay for me to be happy and excited about it. 

 

Just because Bioware has never disappointed me, personally, doesn't mean I blindly follow BW like a groupie. It just means I keep my expectations tampered, my positivity high, and I try to have fun no matter what I do. You guys really seem to hate happy people.

 

Well, if you've played older Bioware games, you'll remember expansions like Durlag's Tower, which were pretty boring dungeons and ruins with some (not very great) story thrown in. Thing is, if people say those DLCs are okay, we'll play 'em and buy 'em - Bioware will keep releasing those DLCs, and not Hordes of the Underdark. If people say SoR's story was good enough - KOTFE will be as good as SoR(and not Agent's story). 

 

This trailer and twitter info - those are all about combat, battles and ancient evil. I'm not so really interested in combat, battles and ancient evil, unless it involves me personally(say, Carver being infected). So, yeah - I do care about the story, and I don't want the devs to release DLCs without it.


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How are people stopping you from being happy and excited? They're just posting their opinions.

 

Yes, but those opinions are - so far - pretty much baseless. THAT's the issue at hand.


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Yes, but those opinions are - so far - pretty much baseless. THAT's the issue at hand.

 

So? You people are also assuming the DLC is going to be good, despite getting an trailer that doesn't show much. How is that not baseless too?


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Well, if you've played older Bioware games, you'll remember expansions like Durlag's Tower, which were pretty boring dungeons and ruins with some (not very great) story thrown in. Thing is, if people say those DLCs are okay, we'll play 'em and buy 'em - Bioware will keep releasing those DLCs, and not Hordes of the Underdark. If people say SoR's story was good enough - KOTFE will be as good as SoR(and not Agent's story). 

 

This trailer and twitter info - those are all about combat, battles and ancient evil. I'm not so really interested in combat, battles and ancient evil, unless it involves me personally(say, Carver being infected). So, yeah - I do care about the story, and I don't want the devs to release DLCs without it.

Huh. I adored Durlag's Tower in TotSC and the doppelganger storyline, there were tons of great fights and some fantastic loot. I enjoyed it far more than Watcher's Keep in ToB. YMMV, I guess.

 

This dlc looks to be offering quite a bit of what I wanted - deep roads, dwarven lore, and a dungeon crawl. Not that I won't be happy with story heavy stuff, but I do love dungeoneering and thought that a massive dungeon was missing in DAI. I'm excited!


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Well, if you've played older Bioware games, you'll remember expansions like Durlag's Tower, which were pretty boring dungeons and ruins with some (not very great) story thrown in. Thing is, if people say those DLCs are okay, we'll play 'em and buy 'em - Bioware will keep releasing those DLCs, and not Hordes of the Underdark. If people say SoR's story was good enough - KOTFE will be as good as SoR(and not Agent's story).

This trailer and twitter info - those are all about combat, battles and ancient evil. I'm not so really interested in combat, battles and ancient evil, unless it involves me personally(say, Carver being infected). So, yeah - I do care about the story, and I don't want the devs to release DLCs without it.

Then complain after its released and your suspicions are confirmed. Now your just complaining about what the DLC might hypothetically be like.
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Yes, but those opinions are - so far - pretty much baseless. THAT's the issue at hand.


They're no more baseless than the opposing ones. They're based on the trailer, and previous experience with this game and others by Bioware.

Look, maybe we should all stop wasting our time and just go live our lives, but if not then positivity shouldn't be required to participate.
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2 questions -

 

If Corypheus had the same type of calling ability like an Archdemon (as seen in Legacy) - Why did he not utilize his sway over the darkspawn in Inquisition?

 

Furthermore, why is he SO MUCH taller then my human inquisitor when he was human himself?

To the second question, it could be a result of long-term lyrium use.

 

It's been mentioned that lyrium is a sort of mutagen, and that some magisters who used lyrium for decades ended up  looking monstrous, barely human.



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So? You people are also assuming the DLC is going to be good, despite getting an trailer that doesn't show much. How is that not baseless too?

 

That's another baseless assumption you're making - that everyone who is apparently excited or not negative to see this DLC just assumes that it's going to be good/epic/whatever, instead of patiently waiting with making definite assessment when DLC actually arrives.

 

So FYI I'm not expecting this DLC to just be good, based on nothing or very little. I'm pretty sure, like most people here, I'm just happy to see that there's a DLC, especially after so many weeks of teases and uncertainty and, at best, I'm curious what it's going to be like. That does not mean I'm making baseless and overly-optimistic assumptions about the quality of content we're yet to have delivered. This is nothing more than false equivalence.


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The problem with it is that unfortunately, you work yourselves up so much that you won't actually let yourself be surprised by it. You work it up in your head that it's gonna suck so bad that you'll have a hard time working yourself out of the negativity. It could be a really good DLC, but you have to let it.


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The problem with it is that unfortunately, you work yourselves up so much that you won't actually let yourself be surprised by it. You work it up in your head that it's gonna suck so bad that you'll have a hard time working yourself out of the negativity. It could be a really good DLC, but you have to let it.

 

Plus, being negative all the time is flat out unhealthy. Lots of benefits to being optimistic.


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So? You people are also assuming the DLC is going to be good, despite getting an trailer that doesn't show much. How is that not baseless too?

 

Not assuming it's going to be bad is not the same as assuming it's going to be good.

 

Being excited for the possibility of it being good is not the same as assuming it will be good.

 

And it's not your job to temper other people's excitement.


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