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[Kabooooom]

I've always wanted to play KotOR 2 but never have, as it is incompatible with the 360.

And KotOR1 was only marginally compatible. Froze almost every time on Tatooine.

[Malanek]

If you did a straight comparison to see which one the lore is most like, it would probably be Star Trek, but that is only the smaller part of the story. To me it feels more like Star Wars than traditional Star Trek mainly because there is more combat and just a higher level of fun. JJ Abrams Star Trek is much closer to ME than the earlier incarnations however.

[Cyonan]

I would say Mass Effect is closest to Star Wars, then Abrams Star Trek, then real Star Trek. A lot of the stuff in Mass Effect happens because space magic.

 

Although I imagine a lot of that statement is really supposed to be "this generation's big space opera" rather than any proper resemblance to Star Wars or Trek.

[LinksOcarina]

I've always wanted to play KotOR 2 but never have, as it is incompatible with the 360.

And KotOR1 was only marginally compatible. Froze almost every time on Tatooine.

 

The best way I can describe KotoR 2 is this: It makes you question your very decisions and really plays with the light/dark dichotomy of what the Force represents. It has some of the best written characters in any star wars game, bar maybe the Old Republic, and one of the best villians, which I won't spoil here.

 

The sad part, the game was incomplete when it launched, so it's taken ten years for it to get back on track, if you will. 

[CrutchCricket]

I think that Star Wars is the Star Wars of our generation.

Not anymore it's not.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think that Star Wars is the Star Wars of our generation.

Star Wars will be the Star Wars of every generation. 

[Mcfly616]

 Idk anyone who says that. They're different in a great many ways.

[INVADERONE]

Not sure if we can compare Mass Effect to something like Star Wars or even Star Trek until it actually makes it on either of those screens, TV or Film. (hint hint...BW/EA make it happen)

 

Although I get the Star Trek reference, let's be honest. Mostly everything that we see today has some inspiration from past media, whether it be films, movies, books, etc. To link it up just to one is a tough exercise as in all reality Mass Effect takes from ALL of them. 

 

Mass Effect did a great job pulling inspiration from various sources and created something new. Is it the Star Wars of our time? That depends on wether you were a Star Wars or Trekkie or BSG fan or.....pick one.

 

Personally though, I'd like to see the Mass Effect universe expanded a lot more. Thus the reason why I think Andromeda will have a chance to do that. If the franchise can move from gaming, books, art, and finally move on to television or  movies then we'll truly be able to say that it is the (enter SW or ST here) of our time. 

 

But to at least to respond to the topic, if I were to compare the two, it would tie in more to Star Wars than Star Trek mostly because of the characters abilities to be very "human" but also go beyond that and have powers and abilities that Star Trek characters didn't really have. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

3 games, for ME.  6 movies for SW.  

 

Maybe a niche genre.  But still a genre.

 

Your count is misleading.

 

Mass Effect: no movies, 3 games, 4 novels

 

Star Wars: 6 movies, about 50 games, several TV shows and cartoons as well as hundreds of novels, manuals and other books, not to mention 40+ years of pop culture references in all media.

 

Mass Effect isn't even a blip on SW's radar.

[LinksOcarina]

Your count is misleading.

 

Mass Effect: no movies, 3 games, 4 novels

 

Star Wars: 6 movies, about 50 games, several TV shows and cartoons as well as hundreds of novels, manuals and other books, not to mention 40+ years of pop culture references in all media.

 

Mass Effect isn't even a blip on SW's radar.

 

The minute the Mass Effect movie, if its being made still, hits, it might be a different story.

[shodiswe]

Let's keep it simple, it's the Mass Effect of our generation. And soon there will be a new one to be released over the next decade. Who knows after that.

[DaemionMoadrin]

The minute the Mass Effect movie, if its being made still, hits, it might be a different story.

 

Yeah... how many videogame adaptions made good movies? I can only think of Lara Croft and Resident Evil, pretty much all other movies based on games sucked. Hard. Even those two examples aren't brilliant masterworks.

 

Try to condense the ME universe into ~2 hours of screentime and see how much is left.

[Former_Fiend]

I think people throw around the phrase "X is the Y of our generation" without really appreciating what it means.

 

When people in the movie industry call something "the next Star Wars", they aren't talking about the story or the themes. They're talking about the technical influence and cultural impact of the work in question. Star Wars changed the game because once it came out, it influenced how everyone made movies from that point forward until something else changed the game.

 

Really, the two contenders for this generation's Star Wars are the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the Michael Bay Transformers movies, in terms of the impact they've had on the film industry and how films are made in their wake. 

 

And by that metric I don't think that Mass Effect can be seen as the equivalent in the video game industry, or in the sci fi genre as a whole. Mass Effect hasn't permeated the culture in the way Star Wars has and while Bioware's style of game play has had a noticeable influence on other games, i wouldn't say it's to the point of being the "star wars". I'd probably point to Grand Theft Auto III or Halo as being the games to have that level of impact on the industry. 

[Mcfly616]

I've always wanted to play KotOR 2 but never have, as it is incompatible with the 360.

And KotOR1 was only marginally compatible. Froze almost every time on Tatooine.

 KoTOR 2 is playable on 360. 

[RoboticWater]

 KoTOR 2 is playable on 360. 

I wouldn't advise it though. KoTOR II is best with the restored content mod (and mods in general).

 

Given how low the system requirements must be at this point, getting it on PC or mac is ideal.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I wouldn't advise it though. KoTOR II is best with the restored content mod (and mods in general).

 

Given how low the system requirements must be at this point, getting it on PC or mac is ideal.

 

KotOR2 got an official patch last week. Widescreen support, Linux & Mac support, Steam Workshop (which makes installing mods easy) and lots of other goodies.

[Mcfly616]

I wouldn't advise it though. KoTOR II is best with the restored content mod (and mods in general).

 

Given how low the system requirements must be at this point, getting it on PC or mac is ideal.

 maybe. But I wasn't speaking of what is "ideal". He said the game itself wasn't compatible with 360, but it is.

[Torgette]

This puzzles me every time I hear this.  Not because Mass Effect is necessarily found wanting in quality but because....Mass Effect actually has more in common with Star Trek than Star Wars. 

 

People should be saying "Mass Effect is the next Star Trek!" 

 

What do you all think?  Is Mass Effect more like the latter or the former? 

 

Mass Effect is like if you took Trek, Wars, Space 1999 and a synthesizer put them in all in a blender and then populated them with likable characters and humor. 

[LinksOcarina]

 

I think people throw around the phrase "X is the Y of our generation" without really appreciating what it means.

 

When people in the movie industry call something "the next Star Wars", they aren't talking about the story or the themes. They're talking about the technical influence and cultural impact of the work in question. Star Wars changed the game because once it came out, it influenced how everyone made movies from that point forward until something else changed the game.

 

Really, the two contenders for this generation's Star Wars are the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the Michael Bay Transformers movies, in terms of the impact they've had on the film industry and how films are made in their wake. 

 

And by that metric I don't think that Mass Effect can be seen as the equivalent in the video game industry, or in the sci fi genre as a whole. Mass Effect hasn't permeated the culture in the way Star Wars has and while Bioware's style of game play has had a noticeable influence on other games, i wouldn't say it's to the point of being the "star wars". I'd probably point to Grand Theft Auto III or Halo as being the games to have that level of impact on the industry. 

 

I disagree on that completely.

 

GTA 3 and Halo had impact of course, but we can point to tons of games which have been impactful in many ways, through pop culture and through academics.

 

Mass Effect fits that criteria, so when I actually said it's the Star Wars of our Generation, I meant it in the way you describe; not because of themes, but because of impact. I feel like it has made a significant impact both in how games can be made, but in how we view it both critically and casually.

[goishen]

Yah, I mean, have you heard of how many game makers (in other companies) like ME ?   Tons.

[Former_Fiend]

I disagree on that completely.

 

GTA 3 and Halo had impact of course, but we can point to tons of games which have been impactful in many ways, through pop culture and through academics.

 

Mass Effect fits that criteria, so when I actually said it's the Star Wars of our Generation, I meant it in the way you describe; not because of themes, but because of impact. I feel like it has made a significant impact both in how games can be made, but in how we view it both critically and casually.

 

A good friend of mine has N7/SR2 decals on his car. Maybe once a month it'll get recognized and someone will say, "hey man, you driving the normandy?"

 

The Mass Effect series has sold around ten million copies, total, and that's a generous estimate. It has critical acclaim, to be sure, but comparing it to the cultural impact of Star Wars is laughable. 

[LinksOcarina]

A good friend of mine has N7/SR2 decals on his car. Maybe once a month it'll get recognized and someone will say, "hey man, you driving the normandy?"

 

The Mass Effect series has sold around ten million copies, total, and that's a generous estimate. It has critical acclaim, to be sure, but comparing it to the cultural impact of Star Wars is laughable. 

 

Then laugh at me, I stand by the claim. 

 

I am also not the only one claiming it either, it has been a topic of discussion before. So the idea is not unusual, its out there. 

 

Edited to add the links. Sorry about that.

[Nethershadow]

This puzzles me every time I hear this.  Not because Mass Effect is necessarily found wanting in quality but because....Mass Effect actually has more in common with Star Trek than Star Wars. 

 

People should be saying "Mass Effect is the next Star Trek!" 

 

What do you all think?  Is Mass Effect more like the latter or the former? 

I don't see it as either considering both of them are still current and going.

 

I actually consider the core species of Mass Effect of superior in design than either of the other two shows.

 

And lets face it, you would have to be a pyjak ****-slinger to shoot down the unique feeling ME has compared to those others..

[Dabrikishaw]

I think that Star Wars is the Star Wars of our generation. Can't comment on Star Trek because I don't really know Star Trek.

 

Mass Effect is its own weird thing, though.

[Former_Fiend]

Then laugh at me, I stand by the claim. 

 

I am also not the only one claiming it either, it has been a topic of discussion before. So the idea is not unusual, its out there. 

 

Edited to add the links. Sorry about that.

 

The idea that the world is flat and that all evidence to the contrary is a vast conspiracy perpetrated by the airline companies is also out there.

 

The idea that Mass Effect is the gaming equivalent of Star Wars in the impact it has on pop culture and the gaming industry isn't quite that absurd, but it's equally as factually incorrect.