lady0635 i understood but i think they close the fate of hawke why they offer options for the hero of ferelden fate in DAO and they never close the story of warden alive?what is the point of offer options of states?
i think the warden need a closure with a cameo scene they not need talk or a scene with the control carácter of the Hof/warden orlesian same of joker scene control in ME2
i understood but i think they close the fate of hawke
They most definitely didn't.
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lady0635 i understood but i think they close the fate of hawke why they offer options for the hero of ferelden fate in DAO and they never close the story of warden alive?what is the point of offer options of states?
i think the warden need a closure with a cameo scene they not need talk or a scene with the control carácter of the Hof/warden orlesian same of joker scene control in ME2
The Warden if still alive is seeking a cure to the Calling. You can contact the HOF later in DAI. They write to you personally and apologize for being unable to help and send you a gift. They are alive and well and their story ended in DAO. Hawke's story can end in DAI, but I'm questioning it now since recent talks of future DLC implies it might not be the end for them.
shininan if i never see more my warden i quit the franchise for this i need a response of David Gaider and Laidlaw....really they play with the fans...why witch hunt never close the story of warden?why they offer a cliffhanger with the suspect dissapearences of warden and hawke....
they open,open and re open the story of warden i only need see a cameo scene or a time for use my warden in future dlc or games....much players sense this...Hof or warden orlesian is ignored since DA2...
shininan if i never see more my warden i quit the franchise for this i need a response of David Gaider and Laidlaw....really they play with the fans...why witch hunt never close the story of warden?why they offer a cliffhanger with the suspect dissapearences of warden and hawke....
they open,open and re open the story of warden i only need see a cameo scene or a time for use my warden in future dlc or games....much players sense this...Hof or warden orlesian is ignored since DA2...
Didn't someone already say above that Laidlaw said the HOF will never appear?
In any case, as Lady0635 says above, the HOF's story may be done in letters and codex entries. DAI did not ignore the Warden. It's unlikely they will ever appear though.
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Ah I just watched the trailer again in a quiet room and listened to the dialogue closely. The Inquisition is investigating dangerous tremors/earthquakes that could destroy Thedas and in doing so, run into the cause of it. The Darkspawn and Wraith. This is not Warden related at all.
lady0635 whatt they include more content of hawke in future dlc and not of warden?
really?if this happen i quit seriously the franchise.
hawke is not important for the franchise but the warden is much important and they decide ignore the fate of him...hee need hide the face or créate a option same of hawke for créate the face of him...not voice same of skyrim..or use a options of enable and disable voices and problema solved for much users...
warden need a chance for close the story of they with a quality scene or the control of they.
But don't tell anyone or BioWare and EA will sue the heck out of me !
Edit: seriously though, if s/he's that important to you then maybe you should quit the franchise.
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I'm very sorry Navoletti but it's been confirmed by the writers that the HOF is done. A minor cameo in a Codex is all we got in DAI. We might hear of them in the future, but unlike Hawke, they won't be there. Hawke was also the first talking player so it's easier to bring them back.
I guess it's how I played DAO and DAA, but I found my Warden got plenty of closure and returned to her lover in Antiva until she searched for the cure.
i have rumours that they delete the presence of the Hof in the full game...for this is my dissapointing more with this franchise..they delete the content of the Hof scenes of the full game...i read in a magazine.
i have rumours that they delete the presence of the Hof in the full game...for this is my dissapointing more with this franchise..they delete the content of the Hof scenes of the full game...i read in a magazine.
They deleted a lot of stuff from the game, simply because of time, or because the content didn't work. This is normal game development. It's unfortunate, and I'm sure the devs are disappointed too, that something they worked on got cut. That's the way it goes, Gotta accept it and move on
i try not to get in hof should return threads. but i think hawke had a greater impact on the series then the warden. yes laidaw himself the warden would never appear again.
The Warden didn't have a voice back in DA:O. If BioWare brings them back, they'd be forced to give him/her a voice, and believe me when I say that a lot of people WON'T like that. And if they bring them back, many people would complain about how he/she is not the character they played in Origins
Revan was a non-voiced cypher for the players to inhabit in KOTOR.
As for the very likely differences that will appear between the portrayal of the HoF and the players' headcanon, well, nine years stand between Witch Hunt an Inquisition's beginning: people change in a decade.
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The Warden if still alive is seeking a cure to the Calling. [...] They are alive and well and their story ended in DAO
Indeed, but by allowing the possibility of the Warden surviving the fifth Blight and rising through the ranks to become Warden-Commender in Ferelden, the writers dug a hole they can't get out of:
The Warden's tale was complete at the end of Origin, that's absolutely true. Even Awakening isn't really the tale of "The" Warden: it's the Tale of the Commander of the Grey in Ferelden, who may be the HoF but whose origin is virtually inconsequential in this story.
The problem is that the writers keep bringing back the story into the Warden's home turf. A surviving HoF being invisible in DA2 wasn't a problem at all: s/he was busy ruling over an Arling located on the other side of the sea. But Inquisition put nearly half of the action in Ferelden, a large part of the plot involve the Wardens being enthralled by Corypheus because the Orlesian commander of the Grey panicked while her Fereldan counterpart was absent, and now they bring in more Darkspawn and potentially the Architect as well.
The Warden's story is over, yet Bioware's writers, despite being openly unenthusiastic about bringing back Origins' protagonist into the spotlight, keep making new stories involving his/her legacy, and predictably, people seeing keep asking for the Warden to reappear onscreen.
Which is why I maintain that the best thing to do is to bring back the Warden... in order to give him/her a definitive unambiguous plotline death and be done for good with this character.
I have no idea what's going on.
Shenanigans, Darkspawn shenanigans.
Didn't someone already say above that Laidlaw said the HOF will never appear?
In any case, as Lady0635 says above, the HOF's story may be done in letters and codex entries. DAI did not ignore the Warden. It's unlikely they will ever appear though.
This is correct, Gaider, Laidlaw and then Weekes all said about the same thing, the HoF is not going to be back in DA:I.
i have rumours that they delete the presence of the Hof in the full game...for this is my dissapointing more with this franchise..they delete the content of the Hof scenes of the full game...i read in a magazine.
There was never going to be the HoF in DA:I, there were no scenes to cut because they never existed. Not sure what magazine you saw that in, I would cancel that subscription if you have one because that is a big load of BS.
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Which is why I maintain that the best thing to do is to bring back the Warden... in order to give him/her a definitive unambiguous plotline death and be done for good with this character.
The tricky part is the Warden commonly dies doing the US so their story is officially complete in DAO if you refuse Morrigan's ritual and don't bring Alistair/Loghain with you.
Oh, look. He's back.
...and people are humoring him for some reason.
Like the wind that's always blowing, life is flowing - move on.
Ok,look. The Warden didn't have a voice back in DA:O. If BioWare brings them back, they'd be forced to give him/her a voice, and believe me when I say that a lot of people WON'T like that. And if they bring them back, many people would complain about how he/she is not the character they played in Origins (because they'd be forced to give ALL OF THEM the same personality)
They brought Hawke back since it was easier for them as
1. He/She has a voice. The Warden does not.
2. He/She has a set personality. The Warden does not.
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lady0635 this is a plot hole...really they use the excuse of the inquisition is a former group for solve the conflicto of mage and templars...well why now inquisitor steal the Jobs of the gray wardens?
I apologize, I couldn't resist!
Also as others have stated the dwarves, more specifically "The Legion of the Dead" have been fighting off the Darkspawn hordes for years with nary a warden among them. As also mentioned in DA2, Hawke and company venture into the Deep Roads and encounter darkspawn while obviously not on Warden Duty. So no the Deep Roads and exploration therefore of is NOT relegated or limited to strictly Grey Wardens, the grey wardens are called in to deal with blights and Archdemons -- the Deep Roads and Darkspawn stragglers are left for separate armies and entities to deal with until such a time arrives. In fact if anyone is "stealing jobs from anyone" it is the wardens stealing from the Dwarves as going down to the Deep Roads and killing Darkspawn has been a Dwarven honor and tradition for generations and they have had to share living quarters in proximity to Darkspawn and Archdemons longer than the actual wardens have had to fight them on the surface for blights.
i try not to get in hof should return threads. but i think hawke had a greater impact on the series then the warden. yes laidaw himself the warden would never appear again.
The tricky part is the Warden commonly dies doing the US so their story is officially complete in DAO if you refuse Morrigan's ritual and don't bring Alistair/Loghain with you.
Which brings us back to Awakening: Awakening is the story of the Warden-Commander, with the two potential Commanders (HoF or Orlesian replacement) being interchangeable. The same can be done again: if the HoF is dead, introduce the Orlesian Commander upholding his/her illustrious predecessor's legacy; if the HoF made a deal with Morrigan or sent Alistair/Loghain to their death in the final battle, give your audience the fan service they crave so much by having a handful of bonus scenes, dialogs and banters triggered by the HoF presence in an otherwise identical tale... and then crush them by killing the HoF at the end. 
Which brings us back to Awakening: Awakening is the story of the Warden-Commander, with the two potential Commanders (HoF or Orlesian replacement) being interchangeable. The same can be done again: if the HoF is dead, introduce the Orlesian Commander upholding his/her illustrious predecessor's legacy; if the HoF made a deal with Morrigan or sent Alistair/Loghain to their death in the final battle, give your audience the fan service they crave so much by having a handful of bonus scenes, dialogs and banters triggered by the HoF presence in an otherwise identical tale... and then crush them by killing the HoF at the end.
Your obsession with killing off the Hero of Ferelden is getting pretty weird.
Your obsession with killing off the Hero of Ferelden is getting pretty weird.
There's nothing weird about it: on one hand I:
So i'm perfectly fine with the HoF being simply absent.
But on the other hand Bioware's writers keep bringing back characters, places and events directly linked to the HoF, and are introducing new plot-lines (Cure for the taint, exploring the uncharted West) just to keep the character away from a story that concern him/her rather directly. (If DA4 centers around, say, the Nevarran succession crisis or the Qunari reconquering Rivain instead of gravitating around the Taint, Darkspawns and other Warden-related matters, I'll be perfectly fine with the HoF gallivanting somewhere else)
Or the most definitive way to get rid of a character you don't want to write about anymore is to simply kill that character.
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