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[MisterJB]

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Trading With Kal-Sharok

My approach was carefully observed. This was not a thaig unused to watching its boundaries. I got the impression that if I'd been one of his Orzammar cousins, our meeting would've been swift and bloody. That is, if I'd been allowed to find the passage at all. As it was, he was polite and efficient, and he knew well the current market for everything he offered. Clearly their isolation is not because of fear, and certainly not disinterest. Among his wares, I saw the latest fabrics of Val Royeaux and volumes by a Free Marcher poet three centuries dead. This only added to my doubt of the official year of Kal-Sharok's "rediscovery" as declared by the Assembly of Orzammar. I didn't mention this to my host. As curious as I was, there was an undercurrent I found unsettling. I must stress that he and his helpers were professional and honest throughout. But there was something I can't describe. While he remained hooded the entire time, he looked me square in the eye when our deal was struck, unashamed.

I lived through a time of Blights. I've felt the gaze of a Grey Warden and seen the corruption of his prey. Why I remembered both in that moment, I still can't explain.

 

Notice how the author of that letter mentions how the eyes of the dwarves of Kal-Sharok are distinct and similar to that of Grey Wardens and Darkspawn. The trailer makes a mention of strange eyes in the darkness and the figures the Inquisitor reveals are all, obviously, these dwarves. Just look at the helmets.

 

 

Furtermore, notice how these dwarves, despite having a visage that is reminiscient of ghouls and other bligthed creatures, wear armor far too ornamented for them to be mindless monsters like normal ghouls.

 

So, my theory, those are Kal-Sharok dwarves and, due to them being isolated from all Thedas, in the middle of the Deep Roads, surrounded by nothing but Darkspawn for centuries, they are all tainted.

 

 

[Catche Jagger]

I don't know if those are Kal-Sharok dwarves, but regardless I hope they're in the DLC.

[xPez]

I get the feeling that that cutscene was just for the DLC reveal, as it is specifically a mage Inquisitor.

[LightningPoodle]

I thought the Dwarves of Kal-Sharok had trading connections with those in the Tevinter Imperium because of its close proximity to Minrathos?

[TeaLulu]

I thought the Dwarves of Kal-Sharok had trading connections with those in the Tevinter Imperium because of its close proximity to Minrathos?

I think they do, but that doesn't mean there isn't something wrong or off about them. And I think the trading connections were only re-established in the last few decades.

 

But it also brings up an interesting point...Kal Sharok is the only surviving dwarven settlement besides Orzammar that we know of.

 

If Kal Sharok could survive all those years alone, whose to say other thaigs couldn't hold out on their own? No communication with any other thaigs, or with Orzammar or Kal Sharok... They could have changed like it is implied the dwarves of Kal Sharok changed, still being dwarves only...not quite entirely. 

 

They could be Kal Sharok dwarves, or legion of the dead ghouls. I don't think that armor looks precisely like legion of the dead armor though. And if they were ghouls, the armor wouldn't be upkept. It'd fall apart slowly but surely over time. They wouldn't be able to make repairs nor would they attempt to.And even the intelligent darkspawn of DA:Awakening didn't have the facilities or ability to craft armor like that.

 

It would be interesting if they were Kal Sharok dwarves, but it would also be interesting if they were another isolated civilization of dwarves, cut off from the rest of the kingdom, and left alone for hundreds of years. Now with these mysterious earthquakes a fissure opens up allowing access to their thaig once more, and allowing them to leave it.

[MisterJB]

 

TeaLulu brings up an interesting point.

 

With the fissures opening new spaces in the Deep Roads and since we see a gigantic Profane, what if these are the same dwarves who built the Primeval Thaig?

 

 

[LightningPoodle]

I think we, as players, need to see and understand more about Kal-Sharok before Bio Ware starts opening up thaigs that even Orzammar doesn't know about. Otherwise, we're just going to get a lot of completely new information but nothing to really help us fully understand it.

[Yaroub]

I thought the Dwarves of Kal-Sharok had trading connections with those in the Tevinter Imperium because of its close proximity to Minrathos?

 

yeah they are best buddies with the imperium, but Kal-Sharok is pretty far away from Minrathos, yet close to the imperium, the closest place to them is actually the wardens fortress of weisshaupt, check the map on the official site, they are right next to each other

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

 

TeaLulu brings up an interesting point.

 

With the fissures opening new spaces in the Deep Roads and since we see a gigantic Profane, what if these are the same dwarves who built the Primeval Thaig?

 

That would be really interesting. 

[Flog the Undying]

I get the feeling that that cutscene was just for the DLC reveal, as it is specifically a mage Inquisitor.

 

It says all scenes from the trailer are real gameplay

[TeaLulu]

I think we, as players, need to see and understand more about Kal-Sharok before Bio Ware starts opening up thaigs that even Orzammar doesn't know about. Otherwise, we're just going to get a lot of completely new information but nothing to really help us fully understand it.

What we need or want sadly doesn't always have impact on whats already in the works sadly. They may want to save Kal-Sharok and all it's secrets for a later game, perhaps one where we actually go to the area of Thedas that it's in. So something more Anderfels/Tevinter focused?

 

I'm not suggesting that we'll have a whole thaig/civilization to explore, but it could be the source for weirdo-dwarves. But that's all theoreticaly idea-throwing.

 

I know the deep roads are all connected but if we're entering them from the Storm Coast, I really don't know how we'd make it all the way up to an area that Kal-Sharok has any contact with or influence over. Then again with all the fissures opening we might just go through a bunch of shortcuts.

 

I do hope we get to explore some lost/decimated thaigs though. I'd love to see an area revealed to us that has just been untouched by darkspawn, left forgotten for centuries with nary a living thing to see it because it was sealed away. Reminds me of one of Solas' stories, a ring of armored dwarves, dead to the last, and at the center, a young dwarven child clutching a stuffed toy.

 

I am excited for all the lyrium stuff though. We're actually getting to see it in all it's intended glory, rather than the...less-than-detailed rendering that was in Dragon age Inquisition. I love how it looks like roots, or even veins, just growing through the rock.

[xPez]

It says all scenes from the trailer are real gameplay

 

Sure, but the cutscene isn't gameplay. Plus it shows a mage Inquisitor using magic to light up a room so either they designed 3 different cutscenes all with the Inquisitor lighting up the room in different ways, or it's just a trailer.

[rapscallioness]

yeah they are best buddies with the imperium, but Kal-Sharok is pretty far away from Minrathos, yet close to the imperium, the closest place to them is actually the wardens fortress of weisshaupt, check the map on the official site, they are right next to each other

 

Interesting. And we do have Weisshaupt go silent. I wonder if they had anything to do with that? Or know about it?

[rapscallioness]

On topic, though, I think you may have something there, OP. They being dwarves, but isolation has changed them. Maybe Darkspawn and lyrium has affected them. Dwarves are resistant to lyrium, but not immune. And they have all those lyrium looking stones set in their armor.

 

edit: maybe just enough darkspawn taint to change, but not go completely nuts like Ruck in DAO.

[DuskWanderer]

The glowing in their eyes definitely makes me think lyrium. It might not be Kal-Sharok, but I hope they tell us more about dwarves. 

[Absafraginlootly]

I've been wondering what would happen if you used blue lyrium like Corithyspit used red lyrium on the templars. Maybe that's what these dwarves are?

 

I really love the idea of them being related to the primeval thaig.

[Madmoe77]

Discussion aside their Aztec/Mayan inspired armor is awesome! Hopefully it doesn't end up a "spoils of" set   *could be Incan too

 

All in all I am much more excited for this than I was for Hakkon. The Deep Roads are much more familiar than the Avvar and their culture for me. For some reason the Avvar just didn't have any pizzazz. 

 

If we are guaranteed some Thiags, what do you guys expect or think may be in them? I'm hoping for a hub like in Hakkon with some local characters and maybe a returning character of old or two. 

[Absafraginlootly]

This might be an opportunity to get in to the nature of lyrium, now that we know that it is alive(like moss or coral is anyhow).

[Face of Evil]

I don't believe those are Kal-Sharok dwarves. For one, if you look closely, they appear to have fangs and mottled skin. Whatever is up with the dwarves of Kal-Sharok, I doubt they look like monsters.

 

More likely these are genlocks that are serving whatever force is causing these earthquakes. Perhaps they are even Awakened.

[AresKeith]

I don't believe those are Kal-Sharok dwarves. For one, if you look closely, they appear to have fangs and mottled skin. Whatever is up with the dwarves of Kal-Sharok, I doubt they look like monsters.

 

More likely these are genlocks that are serving whatever force is causing these earthquakes. Perhaps they are even Awakened.

 

That was my first impression when I saw them

[Absafraginlootly]

DAO era Genlocks return 

There were some da2 genlocks in the trailer at around 1:30, of course they may have just decided on there being more than one type of genlock.

[Face of Evil]

Also, why would Kal-Sharok dwarves fight alongside darkspawn? They HATE darkspawn.

 

A hole in the surfacer's precious sky, not our concern. But the thing that did it? If this magister **** really brought the blight and the darkspawn, we're no friend of that. Follow these instructions, and you'll catch your enemy sleeping. Tell your soldiers not to leave the main tunnel. That's your only warning.

Binthus Warhelm Kal-Sharok

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Also, why would Kal-Sharok dwarves fight alongside darkspawn? They HATE darkspawn.

 

A hole in the surfacer's precious sky, not our concern. But the thing that did it? If this magister **** really brought the blight and the darkspawn, we're no friend of that. Follow these instructions, and you'll catch your enemy sleeping. Tell your soldiers not to leave the main tunnel. That's your only warning.

Binthus Warhelm Kal-Sharok

 

I think in Descent we are going to investigate the Stone and sources of Lyrium. I'm certain that this could be a cause of their hostility.