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[Ariella]

So, you're fine with moving forward for the sake of moving forward? Introducing yet another generic bad guy with each iteration? No build up to some grand finale that gives us answers to how this world really works, why all this happened? Just more villain after villain to mow through, never giving answers because those might limit what future plots they can tell?

If you want that trash, go watch a TV show. I prefer a 26 episode anime that has decided which story it wants to tell, tells it, and then just stops, because they feel no need to exploit the IP for all it is worth. They told a worthwhile story, that you'll remember, instead of having to say: oh, that show really went downhill after season 2.

We are building to something. With Flemeth around this starts to feel like moves in some sort of game. She set up the Warden, she set up Hawke which in turn sent the world to where it is. From what she says in DAI she's building toward her revenge, which I'm betting is connected somehow to how the Black City was really corrupted (If you side with the templars and do the Nemesis quest, you can get access to memory crystals from Cory. Seems they purposely accepted the taint when they found it).

How Solas fits in now, and why he gave the orb over to Cory will build further.

Dragon Age isn't about one character or one threat. It's building the history of Thedas.

Story wise, we're looking at what feels like a chess game. I know some people prefer poker, but I'm curious to see how far the rabbit hole goes. We've got 58 more years left in the Dragon Age. That potentially a lot of time to build to.

[DuskWanderer]

We are building to something. With Flemeth around this starts to feel like moves in some sort of game. She set up the Warden, she set up Hawke which in turn sent the world to where it is. From what she says in DAI she's building toward her revenge, which I'm betting is connected somehow to how the Black City was really corrupted (If you side with the templars and do the Nemesis quest, you can get access to memory crystals from Cory. Seems they purposely accepted the taint when they found it).

How Solas fits in now, and why he gave the orb over to Cory will build further.

Dragon Age isn't about one character or one threat. It's building the history of Thedas.

Story wise, we're looking at what feels like a chess game. I know some people prefer poker, but I'm curious to see how far the rabbit hole goes. We've got 58 more years left in the Dragon Age. That potentially a lot of time to build to.

 

A true argument, but remember, you're addressing a person who believes Dragon Age was only about Blight. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

By the way, is there a remote possibility that these creatures could be Ancient Dwarves or Primeval Dwarves ? I mean we met Ancient Elves in the main quest.

[DuskWanderer]

By the way, is there a remote possibility that these creatures could be Ancient Dwarves or Primeval Dwarves ? I mean we met Ancient Elves in the main quest.

 

Nothing could be ruled out, but there was nothing in the dwarven lore that we know that suggests dwarves could live forever. Aside from the concept of the Stone. 

 

Perhaps those dwarves are where the concept comes from, if so.

[Ariella]

By the way, is there a remote possibility that these creatures could be Ancient Dwarves or Primeval Dwarves ? I mean we met Ancient Elves in the main quest.

Possible since if the speculation vid Biofan did was right and the armor is inlaid with lyrium. Not something you'd expect from mindless darkspawn.

I'd like to be Kal Shirok if only because I want to see the difference with my own eyes, and I gotta wonder how Varric would respond.

[Al Foley]

You know the other possibility that has occured to me is that they, or even Kal-Sharock Dwarves...so 'they' could be awakened Disciple Darkspawn as a whole.  Just the Dwarven version.  

[Aulis Vaara]

We are building to something. With Flemeth around this starts to feel like moves in some sort of game. She set up the Warden, she set up Hawke which in turn sent the world to where it is. From what she says in DAI she's building toward her revenge, which I'm betting is connected somehow to how the Black City was really corrupted (If you side with the templars and do the Nemesis quest, you can get access to memory crystals from Cory. Seems they purposely accepted the taint when they found it).

How Solas fits in now, and why he gave the orb over to Cory will build further.

Dragon Age isn't about one character or one threat. It's building the history of Thedas.

Story wise, we're looking at what feels like a chess game. I know some people prefer poker, but I'm curious to see how far the rabbit hole goes. We've got 58 more years left in the Dragon Age. That potentially a lot of time to build to.

 

If Inquisition has made anything clear, it's that EVERYTHING in Thedas ties back to the Blight. Ancient dwarves had red lyrium, Blight. Ancient elven gods had something to do with the Blight. Qunari were apparently around in ancient times and involved somehow. Answering what the Blight is, unravels the whole history of Thedas. So yes, Dragon Age is all about the Blight.

[DuskWanderer]

If Inquisition has made anything clear, it's that EVERYTHING in Thedas ties back to the Blight. Ancient dwarves had red lyrium, Blight. Ancient elven gods had something to do with the Blight. Qunari were apparently around in ancient times and involved somehow. Answering what the Blight is, unravels the whole history of Thedas. So yes, Dragon Age is all about the Blight.

 

Except that the wars between men and elves. And the wars between other nations. And the qunari had nothing to do with blight. 

 

Further, we actually don't know if the primeval dwarves "used" red lyrium. For all we know, the lyrium was corrupted after the dwarves were gone. 

 

When did the ancient elves have anything to do with Blight? Arlathan was gone long before the darkspawn arrived. 

[Al Foley]

Except that the wars between men and elves. And the wars between other nations. And the qunari had nothing to do with blight. 

 

Further, we actually don't know if the primeval dwarves "used" red lyrium. For all we know, the lyrium was corrupted after the dwarves were gone. 

 

When did the ancient elves have anything to do with Blight? Arlathan was gone long before the darkspawn arrived. 

That is what we have been told by the Chantry.  

[Aulis Vaara]

Except that the wars between men and elves. And the wars between other nations. And the qunari had nothing to do with blight. 

 

Further, we actually don't know if the primeval dwarves "used" red lyrium. For all we know, the lyrium was corrupted after the dwarves were gone. 

 

When did the ancient elves have anything to do with Blight? Arlathan was gone long before the darkspawn arrived. 

RAFO

Pay attention to the game you are playing, I'm not going through a laundry list of revelations from three games here.

[DuskWanderer]

RAFO

Pay attention to the game you are playing, I'm not going through a laundry list of revelations from three games here.

 

All I see is someone obsessed with the Blight, like so many other Origins fanboys. 

[DuskWanderer]

That is what we have been told by the Chantry.  

 

Even Tevinter and the dwarves agree that before one point, there were no darkspawn, and then, there were many. It's impossible to believe something as large as the Blight literally spawned from thin air. 

[Ashaantha]

Even Tevinter and the dwarves agree that before one point, there were no darkspawn, and then, there were many. It's impossible to believe something as large as the Blight literally spawned from thin air. 

 

I could have sworn a codex somewhere states Dwarves say darkspawn were always there..  I'm not sure which one.. *ponders*

 

Edit: nevermind, all I can find is "they simply appeared underground"

[Al Foley]

Even Tevinter and the dwarves agree that before one point, there were no darkspawn, and then, there were many. It's impossible to believe something as large as the Blight literally spawned from thin air. 

Indeed but how and when it happened is a matter of great debate.  I have a theory...which is rather holey I admit...but it does have a certain appeal.  

[DuskWanderer]

I could have sworn a codex somewhere states Dwarves say darkspawn were always there..  I'm not sure which one.. *ponders*

No. The dwarves say the darkspawn just showed up one day and do not have an origin story. Dorian mentions that the magisters claim the darkspawn were "always" there, but this is contradicted by the fact that there aren't any records of it. 

[Ashaantha]

No. The dwarves say the darkspawn just showed up one day and do not have an origin story. Dorian mentions that the magisters claim the darkspawn were "always" there, but this is contradicted by the fact that there aren't any records of it. 

 

Yeah sorry I edited after a google search proved that...

[DuskWanderer]

Yeah sorry I edited after a google search proved that...

 

It's okay. The Tevinter one is similar to what you're saying, but they'd have every reason to lie about it. 

[Aulis Vaara]

You people do realize there is more to the Blight than just Darkspawn, right? Like the fact that Darkspawn can't infect Lyrium, yet we can find a Lyrium figurine that was tainted in a place that predates dwarven history. Or how about the living ELVEN GOD that is not at all surprised to see Red Lyrium at the Temple Of Sacred Ashes, he doesn't even need to ask what the hell it is.Or you know, the cave drawings of ancient elves that depict Red Lyrium corruption. Or that the Blight seems to come from opening tears in the Veil, unless of course, the ancient elven fadewalker does it right.

[JadeDragon]

I hope its Kal-Sharok Dwarves and if so we know that would mean they are able to communicate with us so maybe in the trailer were we see what looks like a lush gardens type area that possibly was once inhabited could be there settlement and it would be interesting to see how different these dwarves live compared to other dwarves we know. The lyrium could even be what has kept them from becoming full gouls. The fact we see genlocks in the trailer rules out darkspawn.

[Aulis Vaara]

Indeed but how and when it happened is a matter of great debate.  I have a theory...which is rather holey I admit...but it does have a certain appeal.  

 

Care to share? I love theories!

[earthboyjak]

@ DuskWanderer

Quote isn't working for me. Oh well.

 

Saying the Qunari have nothing to do with the blight may be inaccurate. Remember that we have information linking the blight to dragons, the old gods, and the frenzy experienced by dragon hunters as per, among other clues, the story of Andruil and the plague she brought back from the void. The origin of the Qunari, and whatever the Kossith are, has been linked strongly to dragons somehow by their blood. Blood is a major theme in dragon age, and the taint is a pollution of the blood. With all these puzzle pieces floating around, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out they fall into place near each other.

[TeffexPope]

What's with the darkspawn lord looking guy in the trailer? It doesn't appear to be a major character, the way they just kind of show it in the trailer without any dramatic set-up, but looks too similar to Corypheus and the Emissary to not be important.

[DuskWanderer]

@ DuskWanderer

Quote isn't working for me. Oh well.

 

Saying the Qunari have nothing to do with the blight may be inaccurate. Remember that we have information linking the blight to dragons, the old gods, and the frenzy experienced by dragon hunters as per, among other clues, the story of Andruil and the plague she brought back from the void. The origin of the Qunari, and whatever the Kossith are, has been linked strongly to dragons somehow by their blood. Blood is a major theme in dragon age, and the taint is a pollution of the blood. With all these puzzle pieces floating around, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out they fall into place near each other.

 

I don't recall dragons having anything to do with Blight. Blight infects dragons, but it does so to all living creatures. The frenzy that occurs within dragon hunters and reavers has to do with dragon blood, which is established to have power in Thedas. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the qunari are some sort of failed experiment, but right now, we have no evidence to support the theory. 

[DuskWanderer]

You people do realize there is more to the Blight than just Darkspawn, right? Like the fact that Darkspawn can't infect Lyrium, yet we can find a Lyrium figurine that was tainted in a place that predates dwarven history. Or how about the living ELVEN GOD that is not at all surprised to see Red Lyrium at the Temple Of Sacred Ashes, he doesn't even need to ask what the hell it is.Or you know, the cave drawings of ancient elves that depict Red Lyrium corruption. Or that the Blight seems to come from opening tears in the Veil, unless of course, the ancient elven fadewalker does it right.

 

All we know about red lyrium is that it has the Blight. I'm not sure how you base that darkspawn are unable to affect lyrium. Lyrium might be resistant in that fashion.

 

Blight doesn't come from tears in the veil. There were tears in the Veil long before The Breach: It's how demons get into the world without being summoned. And yet, there is no red lyrium everywhere. The red lyrium might very well be a side effect of the elven orb, and not the Breach. 

[earthboyjak]

I just wouldn't rule out the Qunari having a part in the story of the blight. Most of my connection between them and the blight has to do with that story of Andruil, which occurred before any mention of the blight but suggests the old gods, which are said to be old and powerful dragons or dragon like beings, have a power which causes sickness and madness and perverts those who come in contact with it. Maybe that's just the void, but the void is where they supposedly dwell. Maybe a third line can't be drawn between the blight and the Qunari, but if both can be connected to dragons in some way, who knows?