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[Panda]

Since it was hidden here: http://forum.bioware...going-forward/ I think it's only fair to bring this information to places that more users access, I wasn't able to find it myself before cause I didn't think there would be old gen announcements in that part of forums at all and I only found out link to thread this day. So sharing this so that larger amount of people will know what is going on on old gen and Bioware.

 

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition Multiplayer Support for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 Going Forward:

 

Since the release of Patch 8 on July 6, 2015, some of you have been asking what sort of support we’ll be providing for Dragon Age: Inquisition Multiplayer on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

 

The team had to make the tough decision to end new content and patch support for older systems. This affects single-player and multiplayer DLC content, as well as patches.

 

For single player and multiplayer, we wanted to provide some assistance to players who were preparing to make the jump to the new generation of platforms, which is where the Dragon Age save importer came in.

 

In the case of multiplayer, the DAIMP team remains committed to keeping the live service going for all players. This means we will continue to run weekly challenges on both PS3 and Xbox 360 for as long as we run them on PS4, Xbox One, and PC.

 

 

Thanks,

 

The DAIMP team

 

 

Note: In addition to this thread, please direct any comments, concerns, or complaints to @dragonage on twitter and facebook, or contacting EA support directly. These are the appropriate places to encourage people to post, or send messages.

 

So no more patches and fixes on SP nor MP, though weekly challenges continue on MP.

 

I wonder how ethical this is considering how many times my crashes still when I'm playing it and how seldom textures load... Also I wonder how ethical is to drop all support on certain platforms all of suddenly when everyone has payed same price for game in the end.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Interesting they list twitter Facebook and EA forums as the appropriate place to ask  questions, but not their own forums.

[Zatche]

I've held the opinion that not developing new content for old consoles isn't wrong (with the caveat that it's pretty sketchy to make customers buy 2 copies to play the DLC).

Definitely don't think I can defend dropping patch support, though.

[Apollexander]

Interesting they list twitter Facebook and EA forums as the appropriate place to ask  questions, but not their own forums.

But when I asked the dragonage twitter this "Is the ability modification finished in SP? In MP the abilities are balanced. For instance Caltrops is too weak.", then I got this "If you have any suggestions, please feel free to add them here: http://goo.gl/P4Ot6f".

[Panda]

Interesting they list twitter Facebook and EA forums as the appropriate place to ask  questions, but not their own forums.

 

Devs are barely in forums these days, they blame toxic community for that.. also apparently the feedback section of the forums is not appropriate place to give feedback to Bioware, I have been informed this by dev as well XD I think it's there mostly for looks.

[devSin]

BioWare looks at the forums (even if they don't interact).

EA does not, however, and the proper route to get something logged is to go through EA (either at the support forums or one of the official community channels).

As for patches, I wouldn't worry yet until we see what's in the next patch. It's possible there aren't going to really be any more fixes for existing single-player content anyway (the last patch was almost entirely multiplayer, even when fixing issues that exist in both modes; the leaked notes I've seen for Patch 9 look to be the same). Since they're not getting new content, the patches may not even have anything that would apply to the old consoles.

[thesuperdarkone2]

BioWare looks at the forums (even if they don't interact).

EA does not, however, and the proper route to get something logged is to go through EA (either at the support forums or one of the official community channels).

As for patches, I wouldn't worry yet until we see what's in the next patch. It's possible there aren't going to really be any more fixes for existing single-player content anyway (the last patch was almost entirely multiplayer, even when fixing issues that exist in both modes; the leaked notes I've seen for Patch 9 look to be the same). Since they're not getting new content, the patches may not even have anything that would apply to the old consoles.

I asked that question and the answer as basically that yes, the future patches will fix sp issues but have some stuff to prepare for dlcs so they don't want the bother releasing it for last gen

[Panda]

I asked that question and the answer as basically that yes, the future patches will fix sp issues but have some stuff to prepare for dlcs so they don't want the bother releasing it for last gen

 

And seeing how far from fixed old gen version of the game is this really is them abandoning and stopping support of certain platforms middle of lifespan. It means that game will always stay somewhat broken.

[Roninbarista]

Sweet. We get to keep the jacked up Spirit Mark, Warriors suddenly freezing mid-combat, or the no sound after visiting the Black Emporium (to name what's at the top of my head in glitches) unless one purchases a new console, and re-purchases the game that may patch these issues in the future.

To be unfair, Bioware took the money and ran. Well played. I totally bought into my platform being supported for at least the basic game.

[Zanallen]

Sweet. We get to keep the jacked up Spirit Mark, Warriors suddenly freezing mid-combat, or the no sound after visiting the Black Emporium (to name what's at the top of my head in glitches) unless one purchases a new console, and re-purchases the game that may patch these issues in the future.

To be unfair, Bioware took the money and ran. Well played. I totally bought into my platform being supported for at least the basic game.

 

To be fair, Bioware has always sucked at patching. They are ending the support for the last gen versions of the game and continuing support for the current gen versions, but that doesn't mean bugs will be fixed. There are still bugs in Awakening after all.

[Roninbarista]

To be fair, Bioware has always sucked at patching. They are ending the support for the last gen versions of the game and continuing support for the current gen versions, but that doesn't mean bugs will be fixed. There are still bugs in Awakening after all.

"Fair?" What's that? They got our support, now withdrawing theirs. They pulled a sweet Loghain.

Bioware may indeed suck at patching, but can add fan support and communication to the sucks list.

[Matthew VM]

I finished the game on PS3 and had very few bugs. Some freezes, but that was basically all. What used to bother me the most was the crappy textures and performance in general, which I don't think can really be patched. Good thing I bought a gaming pc and paid for a digital copy of the game for it. It's like playing a different game, and it made me more aware of the limitations they have regarding last gen.

 

We can all agree they probably shouldn't have released the game for last gen in the first place, but people would have complained a lot. They did (which made me really happy since I didn't have my pc ready for the game yet back then) and tried patching it for almost an year. The game isn't unplayable (Skyrim, anyone?) and they already said there's not much they can do for it anymore.

 

I'm pretty sure there aren't a lot of bugs to be fixed on PC and bugs that have been in the game from the start and haven't been fixed for everyone yet probably won't be fixed anymore, so I think the fact they're ending their support for old gen is not that relevant right now. The focus of the new patches for current gen is preparing the game for new dlc, be it sp or mp, but that's a different matter.

[Morroian]

Devs are barely in forums these days, they blame toxic community for that.. also apparently the feedback section of the forums is not appropriate place to give feedback to Bioware, I have been informed this by dev as well XD I think it's there mostly for looks.

 

The forums aren't nearly as bad as they were during DA2 and ME3. And I'll say again a lot of the rancor is BW created, a lack of response to genuine issues leads to frustration and the players venting, plus the response to the last gen debacle is almost entirely due to the way BW chose to announce it.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

To be fair, Bioware has always sucked at patching. They are ending the support for the last gen versions of the game and continuing support for the current gen versions, but that doesn't mean bugs will be fixed. There are still bugs in Awakening after all.

 

Going into the Silverite mines in Awakening wearing DAO vanilla DLC gear caused a glitch. Bioware claimed it was due to players picking the lock and entering early and stopped investigating it.

 

I really don't know what to say about their idea of problem investigation or information gathering when it comes to supporting their products.

[Panda]

The forums aren't nearly as bad as they were during DA2 and ME3. And I'll say again a lot of the rancor is BW created, a lack of response to genuine issues leads to frustration and the players venting, plus the response to the last gen debacle is almost entirely due to the way BW chose to announce it.

 

I think those times were probably bad, because way the game's were not Bioware's choices to not support or alienate players? Though BW did drop support for Wii U middle of everything with ME3 as well.

 

It's true that lot of sour feelings are, because Bioware's bad communication. Of cource people would be mad any case, but Bioware hasn't really done damage control, pretty much opposite with trying to mask turn bad news to something good and refusing to take responsibility. If Bioware really showed that they care about old gen players as well situation would be different and hits like drop of DLC and patch  support could have been taken lighter although that doesn't make them alright to me even still.

[Panda]

They pulled a sweet Loghain.

 

That comparison is golden and I couldn't have thought more accurate one ^^; That's exactly what Bioware did to us.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Bioware never even fixed the Da2 dlc save corruption bug , so Bioware has a habit of never fixing broken games

[Roninbarista]

That comparison is golden and I couldn't have thought more accurate one ^^; That's exactly what Bioware did to us.

Thanks. It felt so applicable to our situation.

[Panda]

Bioware never even fixed the Da2 dlc save corruption bug , so Bioware has a habit of never fixing broken games

 

I guess it's just easier to spot how broken DAI is. I haven't had trouble really with BW's other game's, but DAI hard freezes from time to time, it's very bothering when textures don't load (I have spotted some times on ME2 when textures don't load for second, but it's quite rare and not that bothering compared to DAI's eyebrowns on/off action). DAI is most broken game I own on PS3, Red Dead Redemption being second most broken ^^; Usually on PS3 game's don't freeze/crash at all.