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Critical Hit nuances?


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#1
Snowdog65

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I have read the wikia pages, but some things still aren't clear to me.

 

Assume Weapon Master with Scimitar:

 

 

Threat range: 13-20

Total BAB+AB:  35

Target AC: 50

 

What happens when I roll a 14?

 

If the first roll is a threat roll. I succeeded, but I need a 15 to actually hit the target.

 

Is this a miss, or do I get a confirm roll?



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afaik that's a miss. you have to at least hit your target to get a threat roll.

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Snowdog65

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Yes - but I have seen it described as:

 

Roll 1: Threat Roll, naked roll without bonuses, must get in the threat range of the weapon.

Roll 2: Confirm Roll, This is roll with your bonuses against the AC of the Target. Essentially this is a "To-hit" roll.

 

What you are saying is that

Roll 1:   is both Threat roll (without bonuses must meet threat range of weapon) and a "To-hit" roll (includes bonuses and against AC).

then you do:

Roll 2: Another "to-hit" roll against AC to confirm?



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the pnp rules work like this:
- roll 1: with all bonuses added is a "to hit" roll against ac; if it hits and if the net roll is within the crit range of the equipped weapon > roll 2
- roll 2: crit confirmation roll and basically a repeated "to hit" roll with all bonuses added; if it hits it was a critical one

 

to get a chance on a critcal hit you have to beat your target's ac in the first roll, there's no way around. i am pretty sure that it's the same in nwn2.



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Arkalezth

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It is. It wouldn't make any sense if you could do extra damage without hitting in the first place... (Not saying that the whole crit confirmation thing makes a lot of sense in general, but at least that part does).

 

In your example, you'd have to roll 15+ twice in a row to score a critical.

 

Another example: If you had a crit range of, say, 18-20, the rest of the numbers being the same, then you'd have to roll 18+ first, and 15+ in the confirmation roll.



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Snowdog65

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I agree it wouldn't make much sense, but the way it was written seemed ambiguous when I read it, I just wanted clarification if there was an anomaly. 

 

You guys have clarified the situation.

 

Thanks.



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Dann-J

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That's where the Power Critical feat comes in handy. Whenever you roll a critical hit, the feat adds +4 to the subsequent attack roll to confirm that hit. In the case mentioned above, you'd only have to roll an eleven on the second (attack) roll to hit your target.



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Thorsson64

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Well in this instance Power Critical would be useful, but you'd be much better off getting yourself a decent AB in the first place.