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[Heimdall]

I dunno, it takes 2-3 days to hit level cap, if they make leveling any easier it will be just really damn dumb. They've made the game easy enough, leveling should be a journey that is to be considered part of the actual content, not just a necessity that needs to be tackled to get to the content.

Plus they give the level 90 boost with WoD and level 100 will be coming with the new one. I'd rather have the leveling take even longer than it takes now and offer a challenge than make it even shorter and even less relevant.

They must have made it a lot easier since the last time I played, because the last character I had I ran for months and only reached 45

[Melra]

They must have made it a lot easier since the last time I played, because the last character I had I ran for months and only reached 45

Hahah. My friends just leveled from 1 to 60 in 2 days and they played 2-3 hours a day maybe. Tried to take it slow.

[Il Divo]

Warcraft 3 was clearly the last time Blizzard didn't make stuff up as they went along. Even Wrath, good as it was, had some story issues (such as the braindead ''there must always be a Lich King'' BS).

 

As for this, it might make me go back. I liked Mists and quit WoD after it was clear that if you weren't an heroic+ raider your endgame consisted of filling up a blue bar and endless rep grinds. The artifact weapons in particular look really awesome; I heard Fury warriors get to dual wield Gorehowl, which is a dream come true seeing as I main Fury.

 

When I heard WoW was down to 5.1 million subscribers, my first thought was: maybe there's some small chance we could get a Warcraft IV. 

[Staufer]

The very fact that they started "mass releasing" expansions with little content past launch day is alarming enough to me. Hell, vanilla had eleven patches, later expansions had around four or three, while Warlords had...one? 

 

But then again, I haven't played World of Warcraft since the end of Cata, so my words probably don't carry as much weight as they would were I actually actively playing. Used to a biased Blizzard fanboy, but now I'm a bit biased too; but in criticizing them. I guess I'm just unhappy with the direction they decided to go in with WoW. 

 

Also, I have to say that kinda "resurrecting" the whole Illidan movement seems like an utterly cheap move. 

 

don haet

[Cz-99]

Still waiting for WC4.

[o Ventus]

The very fact that they started "mass releasing" expansions with little content past launch day is alerting enough to me.

 

Blame the people complaining that Blizzard is taking too long between patch cycles, they're the reason why Blizzard is becoming faster with their releases.

 

Then those same people turn around and complain that Blizzard is releasing expansions with too little content, I guess without realizing that suddenly shifting to a 1 1/2-year long dev cycle for an expansion prevents them from putting out 3 or 4 patches and supporting the current expansion for 2 whole years like they're been doing before.

[AventuroLegendary]

Now that WoD turned out to be such a lackluster expansion (dat content drought), does this mean people will stop bashing on Mists? 

 

Also, I'm wondering what this will mean for WoW's main storyline. Why should we cut to the Legion already? They've been the thematic antagonists of the Warcraft franchise since WC3 so I'd figure we'd save them for last. We have the Old Gods and Azshara's Naga to act as villains in the meantime.

 

But it looks good as an expansion. Maybe Blizz will take its lessons learned from WoD and apply them here.

[Isichar]

I'll pass. No WOW expac since Wrath has interested me. Cat was horrible and I did not hear anything really good about the last two expacs (more so the last one), of course if this expac does turn out to be good and I mean close to or on par with Wrath I would consider trying.

I know I'm in the minority here but I actually liked Cata. For one it dealt heavily with two of my favorite groups within the lore: the aspects and the Old Gods. I also enjoyed a few of the leveling zones a fair bit (mainly Uldum and Vashj'ir which was new and a good break away from the usual type of zone). Also felt it frankly had some of the best dungeons in the game. Well of Eternity still stands as my #1 dungeon they've made. Also it has my personal favorite questline in the game which is the one for the legendary daggers for rogues (minus the grindy parts at least)

My biggest issue with Cataclysm was that they never did wrap up the plot thread that started in Vashj'ir with Neptulon in that raid that was originally suppose to be released alongside Firelands. My other huge issue was PvP was pure and utter garbage. Seriously the worst PvP Blizzard has ever done in any game. The amount of 45 minute arena matches I ended up having to do that ended in stalemates was insulting.

[Akrabra]

I know I'm in the minority here but I actually liked Cata. For one it dealt heavily with two of my favorite groups within the lore: the aspects and the Old Gods. I also enjoyed a few of the leveling zones a fair bit (mainly Uldum and Vashj'ir which was new and a good break away from the usual type of zone). Also felt it frankly had some of the best dungeons in the game. Well of Eternity still stands as my #1 dungeon they've made. Also it has my personal favorite questline in the game which is the one for the legendary daggers for rogues (minus the grindy parts at least)

My biggest issue with Cataclysm was that they never did wrap up the plot thread that started in Vashj'ir with Neptulon in that raid that was originally suppose to be released alongside Firelands. My other huge issue was PvP was pure and utter garbage. Seriously the worst PvP Blizzard has ever done in any game. The amount of 45 minute arena matches I ended up having to do that ended in stalemates was insulting.

Cataclysm was a great expansion, but i hyped it to much pre-release so i was dissapointed. Looking back at it now i never had that much fun in Wow since vanilla. Wiping in heoric dungeons, breaking down Blackwing Descent with a 10 man group. The content was quite hard and there was alot of cool mechanics for its time. Also the lore surrounding Deathwing, and Thrall taking his step towards something new was quite interesting. We finally got to see the Dragon Aspects doing what they were supposed to do. Rhonin was not involved, which bothered me, he actually fought Deathwing once upon a time and would have been a great character to flesh out more in Cata. Oh, and red shirt guy or as he known Wildhammer fact checker. 

 

I think my main gripe with it besides the hype, was that the whole world was redone, but they didn't fill the zones with anything after the quests was done. They needed more events like the pre-Cata event. Eventually it just collapsed on itself and Dragon Soul lasted way to long and was to short and to small. I miss raids that are the size on Ahn'Qiraj.

[CrazyRah]

I'll pass. No WOW expac since Wrath has interested me. Cat was horrible and I did not hear anything really good about the last two expacs (more so the last one), of course if this expac does turn out to be good and I mean close to or on par with Wrath I would consider trying.

 

I'm more or less the same. While I was already growing exceptionally tired of WoW towards the end of WotLK it was Cata that sucked the last life out of it. Quit very early in Cata. Been able to stay aware of WoW since than thanks to my brother still playing and not felt a single ounce of interest return. 

[Isichar]

Dragon Soul I know disappointed a fair bit of people. It definitely had its moments but it just felt like overall it should have been more then what it was. Also not a huge fan of Spine of Death wing With a good raid it was alright but if people weren't on their A game it could be a huge hassle (it's also a huge pain in the ass to go back to at higher levels and solo, doable but annoying)

Redesigning the world to give it a feel like time has passed since Vanilla wasn't bad in theory. Some of the zones became really fun like Badlands. It definitely could have made some improvements on that front overall though.

Also have to laugh that they didn't improve worst zone Silithus. It's one of the only endgame zones in Vanilla and it's awful still lol

Soooooooort of agreed on Rhonin but as a personal gripe I kind of got sick of the guy in Dalaran endlessly screaming all day and night from a certain hand in quest "LOOK TO THE SKY... COLD LOGIC..." seriously... How do the people in that city ever sleep? XD

[PatrickBateman]

I quit WoW 4 years ago after playing it 24/7 during 4 years, I'd like to play it but I won't as I'm not interested in putting that much time into a game again. The new XP looks cool, killing Illidan in the good old Burning Crusade days sure was a lot of fun.

[CrazyRah]

I quit WoW 4 years ago after playing it 24/7 during 3 years, I'd like to play it but I won't as I'm not interested in putting that much time into a game again. The new XP looks cool, killing Illidan in the good old Burning Crusade days sure was a lot of fun.

 

I get that completely. I would love to raid like I did in the old days but I'm just not willing to even consider putting the time required to do it again. It was possible back then but now.. nah

[Isichar]

I get that completely. I would love to raid like I did in the old days but I'm just not willing to even consider putting the time required to do it again. It was possible back then but now.. nah

The mechanics are basically dumbed down to be a joke but they did introduce a looking for raid function for people who want to see a raid but don't have time to sink hours a day into the game.

It's mostly just good for getting to see the raids on very limited Tim. That's mainly what I do since I haven't had time to raid properly in years.

[PatrickBateman]

The mechanics are basically dumbed down to be a joke but they did introduce a looking for raid function for people who want to see a raid but don't have time to sink hours a day into the game.

It's mostly just good for getting to see the raids on very limited Tim. That's mainly what I do since I haven't had time to raid properly in years.

The HC versions of the raids were pretty good in WotLK and for the first part of Cata, as they offered one casual and one hard version, I quit the game totally after killing 10 man Nef HC so not sure how's it's been in the past 2 expansions.

[Isichar]

The HC versions of the raids were pretty good in WotLK and for the first part of Cata, as they offered one casual and one hard version, I quit the game totally after killing 10 man Nef HC so not sure how's it's been in the past 2 expansions.

I think there's like 4 raid difficulties now. It's admittedly become a bit convoluted

[Mr.House]

Really the only MMO I feel like playing alongside TOR would be GW2 and that's because there's now alot of content and the upcoming expac (my biggest issue with GW2 was the lack of content end game which was a shame because GW2 has the best gameplay hands down for a MMO)

 

If this expac does turn out to be good tho I would love to return, but then I look at all the content I have to replay since my bliz account is gone and it just makes me walk away again.

[Puzzlewell]

Dragon Soul makes me stabby because of Spine and I will yell about it for the rest of my life.

 

But yes, I personally am insanely excited for Legion. I left originally a bit into TBC and came back a ways towards the end of MoP. There was a ton of content to catch up on obviously and I'm still more or less trying to decide on what I actual main is between my toons. But a lot of the things that made me grumpy after coming back (IE removing a lot of the class quests that actually made it feel like a different experience and that things like druid forms were actually *earned*) could potentially be rectified with these class order things. We'll see though. The lore nut in me though is so ****** excited about certain things, like the Emerald Nightmare raid and working with the Titans again.

 

I can also understand the beef with LFR for sure. I personally have no problems with it because back in the day, I never saw raid or dungeon content because I was too damn shy to group up with folks and now some 10 years later, I don't feel I have the time or energy to learn full raids so LFR at least gives me the opportunity to sample the content (even if it means dealing with shitty people ).

[o Ventus]

Now that WoD turned out to be such a lackluster expansion (dat content drought), does this mean people will stop bashing on Mists? 

 

Also, I'm wondering what this will mean for WoW's main storyline. Why should we cut to the Legion already? They've been the thematic antagonists of the Warcraft franchise since WC3 so I'd figure we'd save them for last. We have the Old Gods and Azshara's Naga to act as villains in the meantime.

 

But it looks good as an expansion. Maybe Blizz will take its lessons learned from WoD and apply them here.

 

Azshara and the naga are major figures in the upcoming expansion. There's a zone that features them and Azshara herself is slated to finally appear, unless I'm misinterpreting the announce details.

[o Ventus]

I think there's like 4 raid difficulties now. It's admittedly become a bit convoluted

 

No more convoluted than it's been before. From Wrath up until Dragon Soul you had 10-man normal, 10-man heroic, 25-man normal, and 25-man heroic. 4 difficulties. Prior to that in Ulduar you had 10-man normal and 25-man normal, plus 10-man HC and 25-man HC. 4 difficulties. Prior to that it was classified raid-by-raid, e.g. Black Temple was a 25-man raid while Karazhan was a 10-man, with no extra heroic difficulty or HC difficulty like Ulduar had. I would argue that the way TBC handled it was more convoluted than the way Warlords has it. The Warlords system is simple: the difficulty scales as per the raid size in both normal and heroic, while mythic is a fixed 20-man to allow for the tightest possible tuning of the fights, in addition to LFR (4 difficulties in total). Much better and more manageable than starting out in a 10-man raid, then moving on to a 15-man, then on to 2 25-mans, all while praying that nobody on your raid roster was poached away or left (and praying for an adequately experienced and geared replacement for when they inevitably did).

 

In terms of sheer number of difficulty modes, Mists was the most "convoluted", and even then one has to be a bit of a simpleton to not be able to make sense of it. There's LFR, then Flex which scales depending on raid size, then normal and heroic (with heroic since renamed to mythic), which adds up to 6 difficulties in total.

[Isichar]

Azshara and the naga are major figures in the upcoming expansion. There's a zone that features them and Azshara herself is slated to finally appear, unless I'm misinterpreting the announce details.

Hope so. Wanted her to appear for a while now.

[Fallen_Monarch]

Holy sh*t, Blizzard plays for longevity. They've been selling WoW for how many years now???

[Cyonan]

Holy sh*t, Blizzard plays for longevity. They've been selling WoW for how many years now???

 

Coming up on 11 years now.

[o Ventus]

Updated the OP with a bunch of stuff.

[Former_Fiend]

I've been off WoW for years now. Quit late in wrath. Briefly came back late in Cata. Didn't play any Mists or Warlords. 

 

This almost got me interested again.

 

Almost.

 

Then I read that demon hunter was going to be elf exclusive. 

 

I understand why they would want to limit selection on that class. Keep tauren and draenei demon hunters from happening and what not. But if I can't make an orc demon hunter, I'm not interested.