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[Heimdall]

It seems like it's designed for you to do it in multiple parts, at least if you start playing early, since later parts are higher levelled, so presumably it's designed to be interruptible.

From the sound of it, yeah, Laidlaw said it was designed to encourage coming back later if you were under-leveled for the deeper content.

I'm hoping the DLC answer the question of whether the Architect is one of the original magisters that went into the fade. 

The devs already answered this question.  He is.

 

To the rest of the thread: I'm pretty sure the rules of spiritual/demonic possession are all over the place at this point.  It's the area of the lore that's most rife with confusion.

[ollyollyoxenfree]

 

The devs already answered this question.  He is.

 

Ah, I didn't see that. Last I saw it was hinted at but not fully confirmed. There was a theory that all the Razikale references in JoH were foreshadowing the next DLC and perhaps the Architect himself. We're bound to run into him again sometime then, this seems as good an opportunity as any. This also raises the question of what's become of the other 5. 

[wtfman99]

Ah, I didn't see that. Last I saw it was hinted at but not fully confirmed. There was a theory that all the Razikale references in JoH were foreshadowing the next DLC and perhaps the Architect himself. We're bound to run into him again sometime then, this seems as good an opportunity as any. This also raises the question of what's become of the other 5. 

 

One was apparently eaten by another according to a codex in Inquisition.

 

I saw a lot of Razikale references...and Architect was supposed to meet us in the Fade, but Razikale and Architect have connection as far as we know as Architect is a priest of Urthemiel, and Razikale is a dragon of mystery, so different priest. No idea what happened to the Priest/Priestess of Razikale.

[9TailsFox]

Ah, I didn't see that. Last I saw it was hinted at but not fully confirmed. There was a theory that all the Razikale references in JoH were foreshadowing the next DLC and perhaps the Architect himself. We're bound to run into him again sometime then, this seems as good an opportunity as any. This also raises the question of what's become of the other 5. 

I think Mother is original magister as well. And "first" broodmother.

[wtfman99]

I think Mother is original magister as well. And "first" broodmother.

 

She apparently wasn't sentient until she was "awakened" like the other darkspawn and went insane when she couldn't hear the song. I think this disqualifies her.

 

Plus if she were a magister, she would use magic, but she had no magic abilities when we faced her.

[Heimdall]

She apparently wasn't sentient until she was "awakened" like the other darkspawn and went insane when she couldn't hear the song. I think this disqualifies her.

 

Plus if she were a magister, she would use magic, but she had no magic abilities when we faced her.

Actually, didn't she have magic?  She did show The First how to set that Fade trap and there were those wards used to keep the Architect out.  I don't remember if she used any during the fight.

 

Though that could easily be explained by her being a mage prior to being tainted.

[wtfman99]

Actually, didn't she have magic?  She did show The First how to set that Fade trap and there were those wards used to keep the Architect out.  I don't remember if she used any during the fight.

 

Though that could easily be explained by her being a mage prior to being tainted.

 

100% no magic used against us in the fight.

 

That fade trap is interesting.

[Ariella]

Ah, I didn't see that. Last I saw it was hinted at but not fully confirmed. There was a theory that all the Razikale references in JoH were foreshadowing the next DLC and perhaps the Architect himself. We're bound to run into him again sometime then, this seems as good an opportunity as any. This also raises the question of what's become of the other 5.

It gets mentioned in World of Thedas 2 as I understand it. Which bugs me since major plot points like that should be introduced in game rather than in other media, because not every gamer buys the novels etc...

[Dutch's Ghost]

This will be my first bought DLC for DAI. If it's fetch quest simulator 15 and has minimal story and barely any cutscenes like the main game then I'll be on the forums giving my opinion.

[wtfman99]

It gets mentioned in World of Thedas 2 as I understand it. Which bugs me since major plot points like that should be introduced in game rather than in other media, because not every gamer buys the novels etc...

 

I can honestly tell you, this is the first game/world where I bought all the novels etc, and while I understand some fans frustration in missing out on some stuff, the novels are actually pretty damn awesome in their own right.

[Kabraxal]

Just wondering?  This time if the single player DLC will be story drivin with party banter and interactions or will it be just another lifeless slog fest like every area and the Jaws of Hakkon DLC?

Someone wasn't paying attention... not sure how you can say JoH was story light when there was a lot that happened and a lot of new information that ties back into lore that is central to where the franchise seems to be going.  

[AresKeith]

This will be my first bought DLC for DAI. If it's fetch quest simulator 15 and has minimal story and barely any cutscenes like the main game then I'll be on the forums giving my opinion.

 

I was expecting something different

[Shechinah]

This will be my first bought DLC for DAI. If it's fetch quest simulator 15 and has minimal story and barely any cutscenes like the main game then I'll be on the forums giving my opinion.

Yes! Called it!

 

[Ariella]

I can honestly tell you, this is the first game/world where I bought all the novels etc, and while I understand some fans frustration in missing out on some stuff, the novels are actually pretty damn awesome in their own right.

I've read some of them, and usually I love this stuff, but it tends to come down to buy a DA novel or buy the new Dresden Files or Honor Harrington novel.

Honor and Harry tend to win out.

[LinksOcarina]

It was apparently mostly produced by the Bioware Austin Team actually, the team behind SWTOR.  Apparently this was what Shadow Realms was canceled for.

 

I did not hear this. Is there a source?

[wtfman99]

I did not hear this. Is there a source?

 

I can not confirm on the Shadow realms being cancelled for this BUT, on twitter Darrah or Laidlaw did say they worked with Bioware Austin team to produce this DLC and it freed them up to work on "other" Dragon Age stuff.

[Heimdall]

I did not hear this. Is there a source?

Laidlaw mentioned that most of this DLC was produced by BW Austin on Twitter I believe.

 

Which piques my interest, since that means we'll probably get more content from Edmonton fairly soon.

[Ariella]

I can not confirm on the Shadow realms being cancelled for this BUT, on twitter Darrah or Laidlaw did say they worked with Bioware Austin team to produce this DLC and it freed them up to work on "other" Dragon Age stuff.

There was a tweet a while back from one of the DA team that indicated Leliana's va was in the booth. And there was something about Maryden having new bard songs recorded.

This is probably part of the 'other' stuff.

[Heimdall]

There was a tweet a while back from one of the DA team that indicated Leliana's va was in the booth. And there was something about Maryden having new bard songs recorded.

This is probably part of the 'other' stuff.

Unless Maryden is doing a tour of the Deep Roads with Zither...

[Ariella]

Unless Maryden is doing a tour of the Deep Roads with Zither...

Thank you. I needed that laugh.

[Shechinah]

Unless Maryden is doing a tour of the Deep Roads with Zither...

It'd give the darkspawn something to distract them from their current mass unemployment situation.

[Shechinah]

And now I cannot help but see the darkspawn some sort of gruesome and grotesque version of the Minion species from "Despicable Me" franchise; constantly looking for a boss to serve.  

 

There's a DLC idea; A storyline from a darkspawn perspective about Kevin the hurlock, Stewart the shriek and Bob the genlock on their search to find an Archdemon.  

[Balek-Vriege]

The JoH spirit revelations confirm that the rules about spirits, demons and gods are a lot murkier than modern/civilized Thedas thinks.  It opens the gates even more than core DAI that spirits=demons=gods by literally showing you how the Old God may have come to be.  Like Hakkon, they may merely be highly evolved spirits that are bound to beings like a High Dragon.  Hakkon even talks to you and I doubt vocally, since High Dragons don't have that ability.  Reminiscent of how Old Gods communicated with Magistars.

 

That's only one major story revelation in JoH.

 

The other main plot point is just how tragic the world became in under one generation after the disappearance of Ameridan and the death of Emperor Drakon.  The implications being that had Ameridan been powerful enough to defeat Hakkon, his next mission was to return to Drakon, help in gaining the assistance of the Dales during the Second Blight and have the full power of Southern Thedas fight in a Human/Elven uniting alliance. 

 

The Second Blight would have been much shorter.  Human angst against the Dales would may have been replaced by goodwill, forming a potential bond between Orlais and the Dales that would have prevented the Second Exalted March.  With a Dales alliance Kordillus II may have never lost the Anderfels and other lands, if he and his father were able to spend more time maintaining the Empire rather than fighting a 90 year Blight.  Meaning the Game may have remained dead and the empire less corrupt.  Orlesian power and influence could have been focused on northern lands instead of subjugating elves and eventually gaining/losing Ferelden.  The Chantry may have been more tolerant and less militant too, possibly being the Chantry that Leliana or Cassandra dream of creating as Divine way before their time.

 

Basically everyone messed up after those two historical figures were gone leading to the messed up modern Thedas of today.  Orlais, the Dales and the Chantry had a chance to create something great and failed without the combined leadership of Ameridan and Drakon.

 

JoH also had some interesting insight into Tevinter's expansions south and their gods.

 

So there was a lot of lore and story in JoH regardless of being an open world map.  I'm guessing this new DLC will be akin to DAO story DLC.  Designed more like a dungeon crawl with a more linear and focused storyline.  If the story is good then critics of JoH being an open world zone should be happier with this one.

[Heimdall]

The JoH spirit revelations confirm that the rules about spirits, demons and gods are a lot murkier than modern/civilized Thedas thinks.  It opens the gates even more than core DAI that spirits=demons=gods by literally showing you how the Old God may have come to be.  Like Hakkon, they may merely be highly evolved spirits that are bound to beings like a High Dragon.  Hakkon even talks to you and I doubt vocally, since High Dragons don't have that ability.  Reminiscent of how Old Gods communicated with Magistars.

 

I wouldn't call that a revelation, as it doesn't confirm anything and there remain too many questions about the Old Gods' nature, but it does open up possibilities, yes.

[Ariella]

I wouldn't call that a revelation, as it doesn't confirm anything and there remain too many questions about the Old Gods' nature, but it does open up possibilities, yes.

There's a codex in DAO that talks about dragon cults...

It's an introduction to the Reaver, but there's a quote I find very interesting.

Here's the link to the wiki copy of the Codex, but I'll copy the specific quote below.

http://dragonage.wik...y:_Dragon_Cults

"The changes in the cultists are a form of blood magic, surely, but how did the symbiotic relationship between the cult and the high dragon form in the first place? How did the cultists know to drink the dragon's blood? How did the high dragon convince them to care for its young, or know that they would?"

In light of what Balek-Vriege said about dragons speaking, I thought this would be an interesting tidbit.