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[Unbelievabletekkers]

 

 

 

Surely it can't be that sucky.....

 

Of course there are undoubtedly those favoured by others.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

You do you man. If you have fun then don't bother with some of these BSNers. They are a**holes

[TheThirdRace]

ThatBruhYouDK is absolutely right.

 

As long as you're still standing at the end of a match and you contributed somehow, you did your job. It doesn't really matter if you have the "best" build or not, if you're having fun, you're doing it right.

[Unbelievabletekkers]

Thanks guys, appreciate it

[Kalas Magnus]

if you use energy barrage you'll catch a lot of flak.

[Sinistrality]

Yup, do whatever you want, as long as you feel effective. A suggestion though, maybe make a blog though? I feel like the forums aren't a appropriate place for the majority of your topics.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

I don't really think you can spec the Elementalist wrong,unless you try.

[TheThirdRace]

if you use energy barrage you'll catch a lot of flak.

So very true...

Yet I have a lot of success on Nightmare with Wall of Fire, Energy Barrage, Firestorm and Barrier. I'm usually the last one standing and I get more than my fair share of kills.

I guess haters are gonna hate...

Edit:
Although I must confess I wouldn't take Energy Barrage on Perilous and lower difficulties because it's too slow to keep up on those difficulties. It's different on Nightmare because you can actually attack with it before someone kills your target which makes it very good.

[Wavebend]

Your build is fine for perilous and below. Be prepared to receive some criticism if you bring this build on NM or heartbreaker

 

So very true...

Yet I have a lot of success on Nightmare with Wall of Fire, Energy Barrage, Firestorm and Barrier. I'm usually the last one standing and I get more than my fair share of kills.

I guess haters are gonna hate...

 

I respect that build for NM.

[BreakJohn]

OP go into your settings and choose to see your entire teams damage output (a.k.a see teammates damage), i'm pretty sure you'll notice why you are either passing or failing certain nightmare matches. The reason you are getting a lot of flak for your build is because you are providing next to no support besides barrier. Energy barrage, and immolate are selfish choices on your behalf, you are seriously hurting your ability to CC the map all for next to no damage in nightmare (i would throw winters grasp in here too but at least it has some utility...). Look at TheThirdRace's build yea it has energy barrage but thats ok because the build has three support moves and a lot of CC potential.

 

That being said i'm not trying to bring you down or anything just offering up some build alternatives and heavily suggesting to focus more on CC and not dps. If you are having fun and the people you are playing with are having fun and don't mind how you play, who am i or anyone on BSN to judge. 

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Your build is fine for perilous and below. Be prepared to receive some criticism if you bring this build on NM or heartbreaker

This

[JiaJM98]

Spam firestorm is my absolute favourable part of Elementalist. Watch the world tremble under your feet once you stack up more than 2 of them! And with Scepter of Razikale you can cloak as often as you wish so long as you keep firestorm up. (And yup I picked up fade cloak on my ele just because of that staff lol) And while cloaking, you can spam barrier for others and firestorm even easier! It's a beneficial cycle in my experience.

[Pork]

Its an objectively bad build for NM amd HB. Sorry if that hurts your feelings OP, but it just is for the reasons breakjohn has outlined. No high damage skills and no team support. Id kick you for using such a sub par build if i saw this in a NM lobby.

I dont care if you have fun with it. It ruins other peoples fun when you are not pulling your weight.

[Yallegro]

I saw the first 7 min or so

 

I saw you use Energy Barrage like 2 times over 4 stages

 

You couldn't up this ratio easily either because it costs so much mana

 

75% of the time you are using only two skills: Barrier + Winter's Grasp or Barrier + Immolate

 

This should be clear evidence that the build itself is not good and you need to include some kind of long lasting spell

[StargeezerTim]

OP, as long as you and your group are successful and having fun, let the naysayers wag their heads all they want.

 

There's a lot of things one has to do in life. I have to pay my bills. I have to make sure the family is provided for. The things that are optional (and games are optional) had damn well better be fun, or I'm not doing it. When it turns into a second job, it's no longer fun in my book.

 

This isn't my first rodeo. I've seen far too many self-important arseclowns in more games than I can count who insist there is only one way to build and play any given character (and surprise surprise, it "just happens" to be their way.) They'll go on long-winded diatribes about how you're ruining everyone else's fun and if they could work their will you'd be kicked, prevented from ever playing again, and likely dipped in chicken fat and set ablaze.

 

I for one am thankful that there isn't the ability to inspect other players in this game, because these same folks would take it upon themselves to inspect every person before every match and summarily eject anyone who didn't quite measure up to their canon of how the character should be outfitted. When these folks start paying my bills and providing for my family, I'll consider their insistent positions on the matter. (I'd likely still reject it, but at least I'd have more money in my pocket.)

 

If you're having fun, everyone survives, and nobody is complaining, then go for it. To hell with what anyone else says or thinks. 

 

 

[ErySakasegawa]

Not saying the build is bad. In my opinion though, it does not fit the role of the Elementalist. To me, every mage is a support class due their low damage output on Nightmare and beyond. On Perilous and below mages are just fine. Every time I leveled Elementalist I chose to pick Firestorm not due damage but the amazing crowd control. It's the most essential and unique skill on the Elementalist. The following build I started to use recently:

 

http://da-skills.net...110,00100,0C0,0

 

Fade Step is just amazing on any mage, offering mobility and free damage. Barrier is also a great, if not essential, support tool for NM and HB. Firestorm for the aforementioned CC and Immolate to use in between cooldown times for low mana cost.

 

As I said, I don't think your build is bad. It's just more damage centric. Still, there are better support builds out there, which I would recommend to use on harder difficulties.

[Zantazar]

OP, as long as you and your group are successful and having fun, let the naysayers wag their heads all they want ......

..... If you're having fun, everyone survives, and nobody is complaining, then go for it. To hell with what anyone else says or thinks. 

 

Totally agree. I use Wall of Fire/Firestorm/Firemine/Immolate ... no barrier ... have great fun with my friends ... have great fun with the build .... and I don't give a £"$% what anyone else thinks.

 

I never use my Elementalist above perilous anyways. Reaver/Archer for me in the rare occassions I am in NM ... again with friends not self-opinionated, self-important and personality challenged arseclowns.

 

Zan the Man has a Plan

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Totally agree. I use Wall of Fire/Firestorm/Firemine/Immolate ... no barrier ... have great fun with my friends ... have great fun with the build .... and I don't give a £"$% what anyone else thinks.

 

I never use my Elementalist above perilous anyways. Reaver/Archer for me in the rare occassions I am in NM ... again with friends not self-opinionated, self-important and personality challenged arseclowns.

 

Zan the Man has a Plan

Are you that chatty bloke I played with last night?

[Zantazar]

Are you that chatty bloke I played with last night?

 

Could have been, did not play long as I came home from work & pub very drunk. Played the archer ... need all the cunning promotes that I can get.

 

Zan the Man has a Plan

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Could have been, did not play long as I came home from work & pub very drunk. Played the archer ... need all the cunning promotes that I can get.

 

Zan the Man has a Plan

It was you .

At first I wanted to t-bag you,but after a while,I found your prattle entertaining,so stayed for another match.GG

[Zantazar]

It was you .

At first I wanted to t-bag you,but after a while,I found your prattle entertaining,so stayed for another match.GG

 

Thanks  I do tend to "rabbit" a bit when I'm a bit inebriated. Will have to control that when in pugs, my friends however are used to it and just tell me to shut up when they have had enough

 

Zan the Man has a Plan

[Drasca]

Fade Step is just amazing on any mage, offering mobility and free damage.

 

Corrections

Frost step's upgrade is what offers damage, and for most players it will be very low damage at that. There are a handful of players with almost 400 willpower that can benefit, but that's it because otherwise the damage is too small to matter.

 

It is not 'free'

 

It costs ability slot. It breaks winter's stillness. It breaks formations. It takes time.

 

Cost of winter's stillness can be very high, removing mana regeneration and global cooldown benefit as well.

 

It is definitely not the best choice in most cases. When it comes to Elementalists and Keepers, definitely not.

[T_elic]

So very true...

Yet I have a lot of success on Nightmare with Wall of Fire, Energy Barrage, Firestorm and Barrier. I'm usually the last one standing and I get more than my fair share of kills.

I guess haters are gonna hate...
 

 

This is also how i roll on NM. Sometimes i switch out firestorm for something else because i hate everything about firestorm besides the CC element. the sound, the screen shaking, it's just too much.

[Cirvante]

Surely it can't be that sucky.....

 

Of course there are undoubtedly those favoured by others.

 

What part about getting carried by three good Archers did you not understand? You contributed very little to that team and you are lucky that they were charitable enough to carry you through several NM games.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Nvm