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[Dutch's Ghost]

Specfically Blackwall's Revelations quest. My approval tanked with banishing the Grey Wardens and letting Celene get killed. He hasn't left because I did his fetch quests and I talked to him regularly. It leaves me in an awkward place with my playthrough as he's not fessing up to his lie and I'm going into the final push to kill Corypheus.

These sort of quests shouldn't be gated by approval, it's simply stupid. Bioware should re-evaluate.

[Just My Moniker]

Well, I mean it kinda makes sense. He doesn't respect your Inquisitor enough and your actions haven't pushed him to become a better man. You can't please everyone sometimes.

[AresKeith]

So you don't like something realistic?

[correctamundo]

So you don't like something realistic?

 

If it is in DAI - it is bad, you know.

[Sunnie]

If it's anything about DA:I, Dutch hates it.

[thats1evildude]

You can earn that approval back pretty easily by just locating a few Grey Warden relics.

[Dutch's Ghost]

You can earn that approval back pretty easily by just locating a few Grey Warden relics.

I did that, still doesn't work.

[Dutch's Ghost]

So you don't like something realistic?

I sabotaged Viv's potion and had her lover suffer a horrible death. She gave me **** about and ten minutes later I start up a convo and she calls me dear.

[AresKeith]

I sabotaged Viv's potion and had her lover suffer a horrible death. She gave me **** about and ten minutes later I start up a convo and she calls me dear.

 

Viv calls everyone dear or darling....

[Dutch's Ghost]

Well, I mean it kinda makes sense. He doesn't respect your Inquisitor enough and your actions haven't pushed him to become a better man. You can't please everyone sometimes.

He should respect me. This arbitrary system is pointless since he's been in my Inquisition for quite a while and bleed for it and me. I think I have his respect but because of two choices and a stupid approval system in check I'm not able to see his character progress.

[Dutch's Ghost]

Viv calls everyone dear or darling....

And? She has no tone of disgust for me and what I done. Seems like she forgot what happened pretty quickly! Realistic my ass!

[AresKeith]

He should respect me. This arbitrary system is pointless since he's been in my Inquisition for quite a while and bleed for it and me. I think I have his respect but because of two choices and a stupid approval system in check I'm not able to see his character progress.

 
"Does things he doesn't like"
 
"He should respect me!"     
 
 

And? She has no tone of disgust for me and what I done. Seems like she forgot what happened pretty quickly! Realistic my ass!

Which she never does...

[Paul E Dangerously]

While I do shake my fist at some rep gating (like a few rather absurd Paragon/Renegade options pretty early in some of the ME games) not being able to do everything when you actively do things to tick a character off isn't bad game design.

[Dutch's Ghost]

Well they should at least lower the threshold. I had no problem doing the other character progressing quests despite the choices I made!

[thats1evildude]

Vivienne maintains a friendly demeanour even in her disapproval scene. That's just what Vivienne does.

 

[Ariella]

Vivienne maintains a friendly demeanour even in her disapproval scene. That's just what Vivienne does.
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=wfnOImFXy4c

Because Viv is a player of The Game. You smile and say nice things even as you stick a knife in their back.

[c0bra951]

I've never seen a thread with the OP hidden.  There's a first time for everything.

 

Looks like our friend is still trying to convince everyone to hate the game.  What a waste of time.

[duckley]

I may just play a game in which I don't recruit Blackwell, Iron Bull, Vivienne and Sera. They all get on my nerves and I actually dread having to talk with them. How many experience points would I lose?

[Ariella]

I may just play a game in which I don't recruit Blackwell, Iron Bull, Vivienne and Sera. They all get on my nerves and I actually dread having to talk with them. How many experience points would I lose?

Don't know xp wise, but you lose the wartable operations if that matters.

[thats1evildude]

I may just play a game in which I don't recruit Blackwell, Iron Bull, Vivienne and Sera. They all get on my nerves and I actually dread having to talk with them. How many experience points would I lose?

 

You get about 1025 XP for each personal quest, plus there are the collection quests for Blackwall and Vivienne. I would say about 5000-6000 XP, plus the aforementioned War Table operations. Of note; you need to recruit Sera to get the Jar of Bees.

[KCMeredith]

I may just play a game in which I don't recruit Blackwell, Iron Bull, Vivienne and Sera. They all get on my nerves and I actually dread having to talk with them. How many experience points would I lose?

I did this with Sera and Cole in my new playthrough and enjoy it a lot more, definitely recommend skipping characters you don't like.

[Lady Ishtar]

Inquisition is not realistic at all. It is the same number **** from previous game it is just harder to access numbers since they are not available for you in game anymore, but it is still the same. Not that it matter I always get max approval with everyone I care in all Bioware games, most of time with people I don't care too, like Carver. Bioware games are disgusting when you play them sponteaneously, I just go to the wikia, approval pages choose quests to take or leave companions based on approval/disapproval and bingo, always max with everybody.

But I can imagine the pain of people who just play the game. Not being able to choose the outcome of WEWH is another sad thing. IMO RPGs shouldn't make it hard to make the story go the way you want, neither you should need a guide nor multiple playthoughs to finally make the story the way you want. But the developers are dumb and they think it is funny making people play their boring game so... well, read the guides, read spoilers, read everything, it is better to spoil the "surprises" than having to finish the game 10 times to know how to make something you didn't even know it was possible.

Well, unless you are one of those people (who I will never understand) that have joy in discovering new things, if that's the case, have fun with your masochism of having unwanted outcomes in various quests. I'm not into effort, I just love things handed down to me on a silver platter and wikia (among other sites) does that just fine.

[KBomb]

I don't mind so much that antagonizing companions may lock you out of their personal quests, after all, they may respect your authority, but don't feel any confidence or kinship with you enough to help them with something personal.

That being said, some of the "Approve" and "Disapprove" instances are just odd. There were several times I found the approval system hypocritical or contradictory. Some of the companion's approval or disapproval made no sense and was very chaotic.

A little revamping may be in order, but I kind of understand personal quests. I wouldn't go to my supervisor for help with a personal issue simply because I respected him/her, but I would go to my supervisor for a personal issue were they a trusted friend.

[Beren Von Ostwick]

You're upset because your choices matter?  That's... new.

[lynroy]

Something in DAI sucks! What a surprise. I didn't see that coming.