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[Geth Supremacy]

Their game their rules.  You don't have to like the things they do and the choices they make, but you do have to deal with them.  At the end of the day your choices are

 

A.  I'm going to buy and support your games.

 

B. I'm not supporting your company.

 

I feel like they are a lot less gamer friendly these days.  Won't even let people get easy gold and stuff anymore, when in past games it was always an option.  This new crew at Bioware is pretty much like "You will now play our games how WE want you to play them!!!!!"

[TheOgre]

I wish the devs would just tell some people to f*ck off.

I wanted a NG+ before tw3 mind you.

[katerinafm]

There is no need for more lvl, NG+ is made for you to have every precious ability you had avaliable from the start. In Mass Effect 3 you can reach lvl 60 in your first playthrough and continuously play again with NG+.

 

 

I don't see a point in playing through a game in NG+ if I can't level up more. Leveling up is one of my favorite parts in RPGs and I hate when I reach max level.

[TheOgre]

I agree with the husky above me.

Their game their rules.  You don't have to like the things they do and the choices they make, but you do have to deal with them.  At the end of the day your choices are

 

A.  I'm going to buy and support your games.

 

B. I'm not supporting your company.

 

If you are annoyed by how they are asking the devs then that's fine. The OP came off a bit more critical than requesting.

 

If you are annoyed by the suggestion of ng+ then why don't you guys f*ck off? We all have things to ask for here on the feedback suggestion. This is much less silly to ask for than having Cassandra change her appearance.

[katerinafm]

Think dev said that there isn't a hard level cap in DAI. As long as there r enemies that give u xp, u can eventually gain a level fighting them.

[Edit]
As for NG+, I usually don't have a strong opinion for or against it. However I will make an exception for DAI, anything to reduce mmoish farming is a good thing. Therefore I support NG+ for DAI. Only because DAI is a very annoying game to play.

 

Incorrect. After level 27 you stop leveling up/getting xp. Can confirm this from playing through Jaws of Hakkon where the enemies level with you.

[Al Foley]

I don't see a point in playing through a game in NG+ if I can't level up more. Leveling up is one of my favorite parts in RPGs and I hate when I reach max level.

Though in games where leveling is not that important...it does not matter.  ME 2 was plenty difficult even with NG +.  Be a lot harder to do for Dragon Age, for many many reasons.  

[Dutch's Ghost]

Their game their rules. You don't have to like the things they do and the choices they make, but you do have to deal with them. At the end of the day your choices are

A. I'm going to buy and support your games.

B. I'm not supporting your company.

I feel like they are a lot less gamer friendly these days. Won't even let people get easy gold and stuff anymore, when in past games it was always an option. This new crew at Bioware is pretty much like "You will now play our games how WE want you to play them!!!!!"

Ya they want us to grind for hours and waste our time.

[TheOgre]

I think a problem here is that a lot of the threads that have comparisons between tw3 and dai are coming off very disrespectful at this point and I can see the frustration other people have.

[Geth Supremacy]

If you are annoyed by how they are asking the devs then that's fine. The OP came off a bit more critical than requesting.

 

If you are annoyed by the suggestion of ng+ then why don't you guys f*ck off? We all have things to ask for here on the feedback suggestion. This is much less silly to ask for than having Cassandra change her appearance.

 

If I'm annoyed at anything its Bioware.

 

To me personally the thread does sound a little entitled and bratty, but my point still stands.  The game is going to be a year old soon.  They knew people wanted NG+ before the game even released.  They didn't care then and I don't see how or why they care now.  I don't have a problem with people asking for things to be put in the game.  I even posted in threads about NG+ wanting and supporting the feature before the game was released.  I am all for NG+ in any game I can think of.

 

My post was being more literal than annoyed.  I can't believe how they did they last gen MP community, but in reality you can choose to support them or not.  From this day forward I choose not.  I could sit here and make threads all day, but they would just ignore me or placate me.

[TheOgre]

I'm still angry with how they treated last genners, especially with how they refuse to say anything other than it's a good thing they screwed them over with. 

 

There are still bugs with the single player game that they refuse to even attempt to communicate with us on how they plan to address them.

 

I agree with your point to say the least.

 

@ dissenters

NG+ may not be needed for you guys but I know there are quite a bit of people out there that'd appreciate continuing the story while experimenting with dragon age keep to produce vastly different playthroughs with their beloved inquisitor. 

[xkg]

New game plus is a must have feature for any genre, imo. It is very easy to implement and adds greatly to replayability.

It is so popular in JP titles and I would like to see it more in western games. Playing a lot of them lately (e.g. Dynasty Warriors, Valkyria Chronicles, Way of the Samurai 4) got me completely spoiled  

 

Terrific idea.

[Lady Ishtar]

Its not the same. Geralt is already a experienced Witcher and that he actually starts at level 1 in The Witcher 3 is a joke. The Inquisitor is a nobody, if they were to start the game in a full dragonbone armor with the best weapon and already level 24 it wouldn't fit the story it is telling. Every Bioware fantasy RPG is about rising from nothing to become the hero. That is just my take on it, and i prefer the series to be that way. 

I guess someone did not read the background of the Inquisitor. But even if you did not it would be enough to know that a nobody would NEVER be in the enclave. The ridiculous thing is starting level 1... With Lv 1 being Cassandra, this is beyond the definition of ridiculous, Cassandra is easily max level, as are Varric nad Solas. In fact just take your time and read Inquisitor backgrounds from different races and all of your companions and you will see that New Game + makes a lot more sense than starting at level 1. Cassandra is a legend, Varric too, Solas well you know, Sera is like queen rogue, Iron Bull is THE Iron Bull not a random mercenary, and Blackwall is a very well seasoned champion...
In DAO yes, characters were a bunch of nobodies, but in DAI I think you didn't exactly take you time to understand how awesome your companions are.

[AlanC9]

New game plus is a must have feature for any genre, imo. It is very easy to implement and adds greatly to replayability.

I've never really understood this argument. Why would anyone want to replay an RPG with the same character? Isn't the point of replaying an RPG to make different choices?

However, if crimzontearz wants Bio to charge for this, I'm all for that. I wouldn't buy it myself, but so what?

[Ariella]

New game plus is a must have feature for any genre, imo. It is very easy to implement and adds greatly to replayability.
It is so popular in JP titles and I would like to see it more in western games. Playing a lot of them lately (e.g. Dynasty Warriors, Valkyria Chronicles, Way of the Samurai 4) got me completely spoiled  
 
Terrific idea.

This isn't a jrpg.

It kinda works in ME since you'll be transfering the character and all the pretty stuff that comes with it for the most part. And ME three had some nice little toys (weapon upgrades) if you did.

Not the case in DA. And I doubt this could be something that could just be dropped in.

[line_genrou]

Adding new game+ will make enemies level scale with you? because this game is already ridiculously easy without this and it becomes boring as hell when you get to half way because you basically just beat up everyone without so much as trying. NG+ already comes with enemies level scaling with you?

[line_genrou]

I wish the devs would just tell some people to f*ck off.

 

They kinda do that already

[line_genrou]

Problem with this is that the game is built against it

You only have 8 freaking slots for abilities, enemies don't level up with you, your own level cap

They basically built this game for one play only because, they forgot how to make good games.

[Drasanil]

They could at least do a partial NewGame+ after you completed the game at least once. Something like already having specialisations already unlocked, masterwork crafting available from the start and schematics carrying over, basically cutting out some of the more tedious elements for second go around.  

[TheOgre]

They could at least do a partial NewGame+ after you completed the game at least once. Something like already having specialisations already unlocked, masterwork crafting available from the start and schematics carrying over, basically cutting out some of the more tedious elements for second go around.

That is a fantastic idea. +1

[BansheeOwnage]

No other Dragon Age game has had NG + so why would Inquisition? They are following the same pattern as always. Level 24 if you do everything and extend into level 30 with DLC and a possible expansion,

That's not a very good argument. Game evolve. Why shouldn't they? Just because something wasn't in one iteration doesn't mean it shouldn't be, and it doesn't mean it shouldn't be added to the next.

 

Anyway, I'd be all for a sort of newgame+, depending on the specifics. I really enjoyed that feature in the ME series. But in DA:I, I don't even need it to bring your gear or weapons or levels or skills through. Ideally, you could choose what you wanted to carry over. You could take everything, or just your face.

 

I just want to be able to play the same character again. I want to be able to use the same face, but maybe change classes, or change the worldstate. Of course, if we could save faces as presets, this wouldn't be necessary (come on Bioware, please add this). I think some way to do that is required.

 

Oh, and collectibles Please, I'd take a newgame+ even if it just let the collectibles carry between playthroughs. My 2 cents.

[BansheeOwnage]

I've never really understood this argument. Why would anyone want to replay an RPG with the same character? Isn't the point of replaying an RPG to make different choices?

I usually replay characters. It's just what I like. You don't have to, that's fine, but a lot of people have one "canon" that they prefer over others, often a self-insert. Plus, it depends on what you consider the same character. I can still make different decisions with "the same character", or choose different dialogue, a different romance, etc. Either way, a way to reuse appearance, whether that be newgame+ or not, would be helpful.

[Dutch's Ghost]

Really, i dont see how people can be against new game+. How will it harm your experience? 

[Wolven_Soul]

So you see the fun in slogging in another playthrough where the first half consists of mediocre gameplay until you level up to a point where you can actually get worthwhile abilities? If you don't like it then don't play it, new game plus adds replayablility and fun but oh wait the biodrones hate both replayabiliity and fun and so we fans that want it are forced to not have it because the drones have a better sway of the devs since they kiss their feets for releasing a trash product like DAI.

This game needs New Game plus.

 

I'm a biodrone?  Lol, I think you need to read a few more of my posts before you decide that sparky.  

 

Hate to break it to you, but the mediocre gameplay is still there in the second half of the game.  Better abilities don't really change that.  Especially as a mage where I don't feel like there enough fun attack spells.  Playing as a Reaver was more fun, but I still don't see how it would be any more fun doing the same character two times through.  

 

This game already, theoretically, has a lot of replayability with the different race class combinations and the different decisions that you can make.  I seriously do not see how new game + would add to it.

[Wolven_Soul]

I'm glad CDPR actually listens to its fans. New game plus will add to replayablility and challenge as well as fun. Bioware already made their money so they don't care. Shame.

 

Akrabra explains pretty well why it makes sense in TW3.  Plus they aren't just letting you romp back through the game again powered up.  They are making the enemies harder the second time through, and allowing you to change the difficulty at the outset, not something many games do that offer NG+, so that might make it a bit easier to get the Death March achievement.  If they allowed you to alter the difficulty at the outset of a NG+ in DA:I, then maybe it might make sense.  I still wouldn't do it because it would be just as boring to me but...whatever.  Besides, I think it's more challenging to beat it on Nightmare the first time through.

[Wolven_Soul]

I don't see a point in playing through a game in NG+ if I can't level up more. Leveling up is one of my favorite parts in RPGs and I hate when I reach max level.

 

You know another good point is that we are limited to eight ability slots at any time.  We can't pause and use any ability that we want, regardless of which ones we have slotted in.  So even with a NG+ what is the point of getting more levels?