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[Killroy]

The importance given to recovering prothean artifacts is inconsistent with current technology being at a comparable level.

After humans found mass effect technology we put Prothean ruins and data caches on the back burner. The Mars archive, the most important of Prothean sites for humanity, was left to a single team and it took a generation to get to the Crucible files.
And this is while we were still operating under the delusion that the amazing technology the Reapers created was actually created by the Protheans.
I don't think you understand what a dark age is or the lore of the Mass Effect universe.

[Wulfram]

Theres still people looking for the recipe of Damascus Steel, since even though we have good steel, it'd give us more information on the substance.

 

But it's hardly at the level of sending a Spectre to secure any discoveries, death penalty for those who withhold it sort of stuff, is it?

[Mcfly616]

We can replicate Greek Fire's effect, we just don't know how precisely they did it.  No one is going to go digging around in Byzantine ruins looking to gain a military advantage.

 

The importance given to recovering prothean artifacts is inconsistent with current technology being at a comparable level.

 no, we can't replicate it, actually. And what about Starlite? Or Tesla's death ray? Your point is moot. Carry on.

[Larry-3]

If the presence of relays is confirmed in ME:A wouldn't that mean that the Reapers had been to the Andromeda Galaxy as well as the reapers have been harvesting this galaxy as well? Granted I have not seen any information or screen shots that show the presence of any type of relays to travel from one part of the Andromeda galaxy to another part of the Andromeda galaxy.

(Face palm) (sigh) The council is just going to love this.

[SolNebula]

Well let's hope there won't be relays unless we are going to build them. I think a galaxy where the means of communications aren't that developed is good because it creates the conditions for unique cultures and techs to develop. It also add to the whole exploration idea. We arrive to a cluster we explore it, colonize and build the infrastructure. The original trilogy lost much of the exploration appeal because you could basically go to the other side of the galaxy in the blink of an eye, this also create standardization of culture and tech....sort of a globalization. Would love instead to feel like a Columbus in space this time around.

[StealthGamer92]

If they're present I'd give up on believeing the lore meant anything to Bioware, that's what....

[SerriceIceDandy]

Doesn't the trailer show a sort of instantaneous interstellar travel happening in lieu of relays?

I suppose just because it doesn't show a relay type concept that doesn't necessarily mean they're not there, or that the character shown in the trailer could be travelling within a cluster. But something worth thinking about.

Maybe Thessia's Universities stopped laughing at Aethyta's ideas and constructed their own internal relays (or accelerators) specifically for the purpose of travelling towards an unknown destination?

[Mcfly616]

If they're present I'd give up on believeing the lore meant anything to Ubi, that's what....

 

[StealthGamer92]

 

lol My bad, I guess you now know why I've been absent now though. Spending some time on the Splinter Cell forum's over there(plus same thing has already happened to Splinter Cell), I'll correct my earlier post.

[Kabooooom]

Oh, and the Protheans weren't even much more advanced than us. Most of their technological advancement was Reaper tech that they also inherited and their sensory interface tech was more akin to magic than advanced technology since its based on their inherent magical ability.

Where are you getting this "magical" stuff? Just because their abilities seem strange and fantastical to us, does not mean they are not biological in origin. Furthermore, advanced technology is often indistinguishable from magic.

Truly, if biotics dont count as magic due to their half assed explanation, then really the only thing truly magical in mass effect is the ME3 endings.

[Kabooooom]

Doesn't the trailer show a sort of instantaneous interstellar travel happening in lieu of relays?

I suppose just because it doesn't show a relay type concept that doesn't necessarily mean they're not there, or that the character shown in the trailer could be travelling within a cluster. But something worth thinking about.

Maybe Thessia's Universities stopped laughing at Aethyta's ideas and constructed their own internal relays (or accelerators) specifically for the purpose of travelling towards an unknown destination?

The Mass Effect 1 trailer showed Caleston in orbit of Noveria.

Trailers should be taken with a mountain of salt.

[N7Jamaican]

Doubt we'll see "relays" or they won't be as we know them.  That's what I believe.

[Killroy]

Where are you getting this "magical" stuff? Just because their abilities seem strange and fantastical to us, does not mean they are not biological in origin. Furthermore, advanced technology is often indistinguishable from magic.

"I can tell that a test-tube Krogan used to hang around this general area a year ago by touching the floor."

It's magic.
 

Truly, if biotics dont count as magic due to their half assed explanation, then really the only thing truly magical in mass effect is the ME3 endings.

Of course biotics are magic. It's just the Force.

[Former_Fiend]

It isn't inconceivable to me that another culture in another galaxy independently invented Mass Relays or something comparable. The Leviathans invented them in this galaxy, but the idea of them being independently created isn't terribly far fetched. Things get independently invented by different cultures all the time.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It isn't inconceivable to me that another culture in another galaxy independently invented Mass Relays or something comparable. The Leviathans invented them in this galaxy, but the idea of them being independently created isn't terribly far fetched. Things get independently invented by different cultures all the time.

The Leviathan's didn't invent the Mass Relays. The Leviathan we talk to says the Reapers did, to help make the harvests more efficient. 

[KaiserShep]

Of course biotics are magic. It's just the Force.

 

Eh, it's not quite the force. The force is a great deal more supernatural in nature, since it can be used to friggin' communicate with the dead. Biotic ability is much more mundane.

[Former_Fiend]

The Leviathan's didn't invent the Mass Relays. The Leviathan we talk to says the Reapers did, to help make the harvests more efficient. 

 

My memory fails me, then.

 

Still, not the point. The independent invention of relays in another galaxy isn't impossible.

[KaiserShep]

Relays or hypergates or whatever seem like a logical outcome of increasingly advanced space travel, since it basically creates a super highway that makes expansion to other worlds much more practical. 

[Xaijin]

Where are you getting this "dark age" stuff? All we've seen of Andromeda is a few planets, a Krogan, some blurry enemies and some machines breaking out of the ground.

 

The colonists and the antagonists have the same level of tech. For a galaxy without reapers there's very little advancement.

[Killroy]

The colonists and the antagonists have the same level of tech. For a galaxy without reapers there's very little advancement.

You just made that up. You have no idea what level of tech the antagonists have.

[Xaijin]

Wrong.

 

The survey shows this emphatically, and secondly if the Khet had better tech, there wouldn't be much of a game now would there.

 

Secondly seeing as half of the MP relies on wresting equalized resources from the enemy to gain them for your forces, parity is closer than not.

 

By all means show us the super death ray that instavaporized the colonists that the trailer showed, oh wait it didn't; they had infantry weapons with powered vehicle support directly analogous to the colonists, which means whilst someone was getting reaperized for your protection every 50K years, someone else either relied on the Remnant for all their space propane and space propane accessories, or they had whatever qualifies as their thumbs up whatever qualifies as their butts, because apparently they're quite capable of dying under colonist gunfire, as the trailer showed.

 

Semantics will get you zero stones, zero stones = zero crates.

[Killroy]

Show me where the leak "emphatically" states that the antagonists of Andromeda only have tech at the same level of the Milky Way races.

[Xaijin]

drive the Khet out of the region

 

long forgotten alien technology

 

defending a Settlement against Khet attacks,

 

 

 

Apparently you can beat them off your stuff , which means their tech is roughly comparable at best.

[Oldren Shepard]

 

Look at the 0:44, in the yellow star it says FTL destination, in this one at least it won't be mass relays.

[Kabooooom]

"I can tell that a test-tube Krogan used to hang around this general area a year ago by touching the floor."

It's magic.

I disagree, but its probably just my knowledge of biology that allowed me to think of a way it could be possible. I wrote a long post months ago about the probable nature of thus Prothean sensory ability. It is extremely similar to olfaction. Contrary to popular belief, it is actually olfaction that conveys the most detailed information about the environment, which is why most species utilize it extensively in one way or another. For example, we now know that dogs can detect the equivalent of a teaspoon of sugar in an Olympic sized swimming pool. They have the capability if not only smelling cancer on someone, but specific kinds of cancer. They detect olfactory information regarding individual identity, sex, social status, mating status, fear, all from chemical signals left in urine and feces. They can even smell oncoming diabetic crises and seizures. Just to use one single, exception animal as an example.

Thus, it is entirely biologically possible that a species with human level intelligence could detect extraordinarily complex and intricate information via olfaction. Can you imagine how different a visit to the doctor would be if they could simple smell that you had cancer right off the bat?

And so, perhaps this is what Javik is doing, but rather than having olfactory receptors in nasal epithelium, he has them on skin. This is potentially supported by the fact that he compulsively washes his hands after touching anything, thus removing all molecules from olfactory receptors.

It is plausible, not magical.

Edit: Ugh phone autocorrect. Too lazy to correct grammatical errors, sorry.