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EDIT: I don't really care about the idea anymore, so you can let the thread die if you don't like it.

 

 

(Transgenic: of, relating to, or denoting an organism that contains genetic material into which DNA from an unrelated organism has been artificially introduced)

 

Since we likely won't have other playable species besides humans, can we at least make out humans more interesting with transgenic visual (or maybe also) functional options? It's the deep future, so it should be possible, plus it should fit well with all that stuff about human genetic malleability Harbinger was going on about in the ME2. 

 

As for the actual modifications, suggestions can be taken from the community. I myself am fond of cosmetic horns (though I'm fine if that specific one doesn't happen).

 

Just thought of it while typing this. Unrelated, but tattoo options would also be nice.

 

EDIT: on the subject of NPC reactions. I think it can work if the transgenic cosmetics thing is a big craze (it could have been going for 3 yrs in the game's time) that everyone is now used to seeing. Maybe 1 or 2 characters can make a comment on it, but it wouldn't necessarily be required for things to make sense. As for the Ark leak, we don't know when the Ark launched, and could have been traveling for long while. Could be enough time for this isolated ship culture to develop their own weird trends. 


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I have the feeling ME is the wrong kind of sci-fi for that.



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(Transgenic: of, relating to, or denoting an organism that contains genetic material into which DNA from an unrelated organism has been artificially introduced)

 

Since we likely won't have other playable species besides humans, can we at least make out humans more interesting with transgenic visual (or maybe also) functional options? It's the deep future, so it should be possible, plus it should fit well with all that stuff about human genetic malleability Harbinger was going on about in the ME2. 

 

As for the actual modifications, suggestions can be taken from the community. I myself am fond of cosmetic horns (though I'm fine if that specific one doesn't happen).

 

Just thought of it while typing this. Unrelated, but tattoo options would also be nice.

I think the question is whether or not this will affect your gaming experience. I don't think Bioware would want to allow, whatever visual thing you want, if it doesnt cause NPCs to react to it. I don't think they want another 'Qunari Mage leading the inquisition' situation.



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NPC: [yells in shock] Holy balls, where the hell did you come from? I didn't even see you come in.

 

 

PC: Well, I am part cuttlefish. 


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I think the question is whether or not this will affect your gaming experience. I don't think Bioware would want to allow, whatever visual thing you want, if it doesnt cause NPCs to react to it. I don't think they want another 'Qunari Mage leading the inquisition' situation.

I think it can work if the transgenic cosmetics thing is a big craze (it could have been going for 3 yrs in the game's time) that everyone is now used to seeing. Maybe 1 or 2 characters can make a comment on it, but it wouldn't necessarily be required for things to make sense.



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How about no?



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I think it can work if the transgenic cosmetics thing is a big craze (it could have been going for 3 yrs in the game's time) that everyone is now used to seeing. Maybe 1 or 2 characters can make a comment on it, but it wouldn't necessarily be required for things to make sense.

If we are to believe the leak and also that the game will essentially begin before the end of ME3 then I don't think that it will go unnoticed.

 

If not, unless everybody uses the exact same, thingy, then I doubt it will go unnoticed. And so Bioware will probably not add it to the game. I hope we do get some sort of bio-mechanical augmentations though.



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As I understood, the 'Ark' or whatever brings us into Andromeda was launched somewhere during the trilogy, so it is not far in the future. Humans are probably 100% the same as in the Shepard Trilogy.



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If we are to believe the leak and also that the game will essentially begin before the end of ME3 then I don't think that it will go unnoticed.

 

If not, unless everybody uses the exact same, thingy, then I doubt it will go unnoticed. And so Bioware will probably not add it to the game. I hope we do get some sort of bio-mechanical augmentations though.

I'm aware of the Ark leak, but we don't know when it launched, and could have been traveling for long while. Could be enough time for this isolated ship culture to develop their own weird trends. 


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Only if I can have a quad.

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I'm aware of the Ark leak, but we don't know when it launched, and could have been traveling for long while. Could be enough time for this isolated ship culture to develop their own weird trends.

Realistically, the passengers would be in cryo then. Why? Well, a true generation ship is certainly viable, but why the hell would you create one, and the living space, agricultural space (both levo and dextro) etc....when you have the capability of cryo? It's idiotic, quite frankly.

I really hope Bioware realizes that.
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Realistically, the passengers would be in cryo then. Why? Well, a true generation ship is certainly viable, but why the hell would you create one, and the living space, agricultural space (both levo and dextro) etc....when you have the capability of cryo? It's idiotic, quite frankly.

I really hope Bioware realizes that.

Very good point. I think I'll let the thread die now.



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I honestly love the idea of generation ships. It may be how we colonize the stars in real life (but probably not, as nature has already proven cryo to be a viable concept). And in Mass Effect as well, their utility isnt there. Other technology renders them obsolete.

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I'm aware of the Ark leak, but we don't know when it launched, and could have been traveling for long while. Could be enough time for this isolated ship culture to develop their own weird trends. 

That makes sense but I think we will have to assume that they spend a couple of generations on the ship/ark travelling.



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This sort of reminds of the ending of that movie Supernova (which totally stole the name of a story I wrote in fifth grade btw) in which a ship carrying two surviving crew members, after leaving light speed or something, accidentally merged the two people's DNA, getting the female pregnant in the process and giving her heterochromia. 

 

God that movie sucked but the ending was freaky. 



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What sort of military organization would allow their soldiers to have horns or a tail or whatever, for no reason? You couldn't wear a helmet or the armor. If we were playing bored rich kids in the future, sure. But not soldiers on an intergalactic mission to colonize the Andromeda galaxy.

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What sort of military organization would allow their soldiers to have horns or a tail or whatever, for no reason? You couldn't wear a helmet or the armor. If we were playing bored rich kids in the future, sure. But not soldiers on an intergalactic mission to colonize the Andromeda galaxy.

I was actually just going to let this thread die after someone made a good point about cryosleep, but I feel compelled to point out that the modifications wouldn't necessarily mess with the ability to fit your armor, and even something like horns could just be something small like Darth Maul horns. 



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I was actually just going to let this thread die after someone made a good point about cryosleep, but I feel compelled to point out that the modifications wouldn't necessarily mess with the ability to fit your armor, and even something like horns could just be something small like Darth Maul horns.


How Would Darth Maul wear a military helmet? He has 2" horns sticking out all around and on top of his head.

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How Would Darth Maul wear a military helmet? He has 2" horns sticking out all around and on top of his head.

Well the point is that they're small enough that unless it's an especially tight helmet, it shouldn't matter (they could be smaller if needed, anyway the horns were just an example). I'm going to avoid looking at this thread now and actually commit to letting it die.



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Hum....erm...um...well...


No.

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I'd like it if you could further customize your character with genetic modifications and cybernetics in ME:A. We even know it's quite doable. If you remember your time on Noveria from Mass Effect 1 you speak to a sells representative whose company specializes in such things. Including slowing down the rate at which your bones deteriorate due to low gravity. There is also the enhancements that you can get through your specter training. The description mentions that it includes genetic enhancements as I recall. Throughout mass effect 2 Shepard can also add in some cybernetic enhancements. 

 

What really surprises me is how weak and limited the enhancements were. This is the type of technology we're working on now as far as genetic engineering with animals and cybernetics. What ME showed us I expect to see in the next 100 years and they're suppose to be 300 years or so more advanced than us. I suppose that the limitations are due to restrictions imposed by the council for whatever reason, but that doesn't extend to the terminus systems. If that is the case hopefully we can cast aside those outdated laws and show a more progressive mind set.

 

Now depending on the cost and dangers involved I do have trouble imagining making purely cosmetic changes especially if this is a mission of survival. The human body is a remarkably complex machine by modern standards and looking cool doesn't seem like a good reason to tinker with it. Mess with the wrong thing in your integumentary system it stops helping make vitamin D or heaven forbid aiding with the immune system and you're not going to live long.


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To return to the thread: only if they were something simple and not overly mutating. . .kinda like in X-COM, where you can give your soldiers an extra heart, increased strength, and eye modifications. . .but not monkey tails that let you triple wield pistols.



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More options is good.  I'm a fan.

 

This particular idea never would have occurred to me, and I don't need it specifically, but I support it because I support more character creation options, even when they're not necessary for the story to work.


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You know, it's funny. Got a new Shadowrun source book the other day, Chrome Flesh, which deals with augmentations. They touch on this kind of thing in the bioware/biosculpting and gene modding sections, where it's largely dealt with as a fashion statement.

 

I can't say I'm particularly in favor of this feature, my main issue being one of tone, but to an extent, continuity. The only hints towards this kind of science in the series are some lines from an STG guy who figured genetic modification was responsible for Javik's appearance; aside from that and maybe some throw away advertisements in game, we don't really see any evidence of this kind of thing having a place in the ME setting. 

 

But more than that, this kind of fashion statement gene modding thing doesn't really fit with the space western tone they're going for, in my opinion. 

 

And, really, if we're not getting a selection of playable species, then I'd rather see them put resources in to making the human characters as detailed and diverse as possible rather than giving a human alien features as a poor man's consolation prize to not getting multiple races to choose from.