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[Uncle JailBird Joey]

Avril Lavigne?

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^^ you are correct.

[Angry_Elcor]

I think watching Caineghis fail to recognize a member using an alt to like his own posts and support himself may be so ironic that the word ironic has now lost all meaning and come to be like "literally" in the sense that it might as well be "smurf" used by the Smurfs.

[Caineghis2500]

I think watching Caineghis fail to recognize a member using an alt to like his own posts and support himself may be so ironic that the word ironic has now lost all meaning and come to be like "literally" in the sense that it might as well be "smurf" used by the Smurfs.

I had a feeling he was but I didn't want to jump to conclusions but if that's the case then lol

[The NightMan Cometh]

proof is in the pudding & my pudding tastes amazing..also...Acolyte is amazing because my fury & slayer..dont need anything other than it.....

[Kenny Bania]

I dislike the Acolyte because it's a charge up weapon, and my already bad hands hurt from using those. Funnily enough, the removal of the charge up mechanism and (the reversal) forced me to actually learn how to play. I used it on everything (in Silver) during the chargeless phase, and it trivialised game play. The shock of losing my crutch when it was over turned out to be a good thing.

[Akir388]

Really? I'm on a pug odyssey right now, and the weapon is everywhere (and not just on biotics). Even the pugs have caught on that shield-stripping powers don't approach its utility. I'm even seeing Acolyte/Harrier combos here and there.

I am as well. Have yet to see the Acolyte being used.

[Kenny Bania]

Why do I hardly ever see pugs using it? Since it apparently trivializes the game and allows you to "lol" waves to extraction, you'd think it would be super common.  They usually go for the Harrier or Reegar. Could it be because it actually isn't that amazingly awesome? I never think to myself "I really wanna destroy all enemies next match, better equip my Acolyte!"

 

You're not wrong about this. It really is a niche weapon.

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^^ Dude, I see PUGz constantly using it..even TGI Harriers...<--- what the hell..Overload means nothing?...really pumps my nerves when I see a character with ..say..energy drain or overload..or any shield draining ability..use an acolyte...seriously...what are you..a Kylie Jenner version of the Atari 2500?

[BloodBeforeTears]

YES. Thank you Cain for posting this (that other thread has basically gone to $h!+ anyways).

Oh man, I LOOOVVEE me some Anti-Acolyte aggression - just uncapped a Pyramid Thunderhead IPA an about to lay my two cents down on this thread.

So. The Acolyte... why does this topic keep coming up, a casual observer/gamer might ask... and answer is...

wait for it...

Ans: The gun freaking LAAAAAMMMMMEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, truth be told, the Acolyte is a LAME-ASS weapon. Think back to when you first unboxed it... when you got that gold Acolyte card... and then equipped on some kit and took it in to the game... what was your first impression?

If any tries to tell me with a straight face that they found love at first Acolyte use I would be at a loss for words, and probably look at you as if you had a **** on your forehead.

Tbh, I was so disappointed with the lame factor of this weapon that I NEVER used it... EVER... for ****ing years... and then one day, I was curious if anyone had finally found a way to break platinum in a trivial manner, so I searched for platinum easy mode solo... and well, the OP can tell you what I found, it was his video after all. And it was ****ing ridiculous. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING SH!TTING ME! A ****ing Acolyte is what it took to break platinum!!! The ****ing lamest weapon in the game is what it took to break platinum! Really? WTF is going on here!?

Needless to say, I lost quite a bit of respect for the game at that point. But whatevs, who am I to judge. Let me just close by saying that a team full of Acolyte users is like playing Mortal Kombat on SNES (no gore - G-rated... so yes, an Acolyte is a good weapon for kids)

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^^^ You are cruel. Why do you enjoy making Asari cry? Adepts have feelings you know. And I know the video you are talking about...it's really lame & space invaders videos are much more informative. 

[Red Panda]

I think you hit start a new topic instead of reply. We already have 16 pages of this here:
http://forum.bioware...-weapon-in-mea/

At least he spelled it right.

[Kenny Bania]

YES. Thank you Cain for posting this (that other thread has basically gone to $h!+ anyways).

Oh man, I LOOOVVEE me some Anti-Acolyte aggression - just uncapped a Pyramid Thunderhead IPA an about to lay my two cents down on this thread.

So. The Acolyte... why does this topic keep coming up, a casual observer/gamer might ask... and answer is...

wait for it...

Ans: The gun freaking LAAAAAMMMMMEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, truth be told, the Acolyte is a LAME-ASS weapon. Think back to when you first unboxed it... when you got that gold Acolyte card... and then equipped on some kit and took it in to the game... what was your first impression?

If any tries to tell me with a straight face that they found love at first Acolyte use I would be at a loss for words, and probably look at you as if you had a **** on your forehead.

Tbh, I was so disappointed with the lame factor of this weapon that I NEVER used it... EVER... for ****ing years... and then one day, I was curious if anyone had finally found a way to break platinum in a trivial manner, so I searched for platinum easy mode solo... and well, the OP can tell you what I found, it was his video after all. And it was ****ing ridiculous. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING SH!TTING ME! A ****ing Acolyte is what it took to break platinum!!! The ****ing lamest weapon in the game is what it took to break platinum! Really? WTF is going on here!?

Needless to say, I lost quite a bit of respect for the game at that point. But whatevs, who am I to judge. Let me just close by saying that a team full of Acolyte users is like playing Mortal Kombat on SNES (no gore - G-rated... so yes, an Acolyte is a good weapon for kids)

 

Pretty sure the "easy mode" is more about the Geth trooper and Flamer than the Acolyte. 

[Swan Killer]

I'm not a pistol fan myself, but if I have to, gimme the Carnifex plz (because it'll get me through Silver!) or the Paladin. Maybe the Talon, if I feel like EZ mode. 

[PatrickBateman]

Pretty sure the "easy mode" is more about the Geth trooper and Flamer than the Acolyte.

Pretty much, flamer is great vs reapers due to all the armor, Acolyte complements by stripping shields were it's needed.

If the Acolyte was so damn powerful I'd expect to see lots of "easy mode" Destroyer or GI platinum solos with only the Acolyte but they are nowhere to be found.

If the Acolyte haters bothered to check their facts they would realize fairly quickly that there is no such thing as an easy mode Acolyte platinum mode other than on flamer kits, and especially the GT vs reapers on Gigant.

[Deerber]

I haven't read the thread, but I think I have the answer myself already.

Love: it's terribly OP.

Hate: it's terribly OP.

[Cryos_Feron]

I'll be explaining the love and hate that people have with the acolyte down to the most primal reasons. I'll try to be as fair as i can in explaining each side of the coin. It's all a matter of personal preference at the end..

 

 

THE LOVE

 

It's plain and simply easy to use, extremely effective and lightweight. It opens the door for more casual and relaxed game sessions because it eliminates most of the trouble and irritation of having to deal with pesky shielded enemies especially phantoms. It's responsible for many non soloers completing their first gold and/or platinum solo and has increased many if not most of it's users survival rate considerably so I understand the unapologetic and shameless love and attachment that many have towards it. In business and marketing there's something called "target audience" which a simply a product designed mainly towards a specific demographic of people in this case "The casual player" or people who have more of a taste for casual play and simplicity with minor skillful and/or tactical problem solving which can actually be a bother to most. I want to make it very clear that when I say "casual player" I don't mean it in any condescending sense or any other bad way because I understand that people's brains are fried from a hard day at work and have families and just wanna come home and play a couple of easy, simple and relaxed game sessions without much tactical and/or skillful thinking.

 

Having weapons like the acolyte plays a crucial role in increasing the casual market's retention rate so it's almost a guarantee that we'll see new "L2P" weapons in Andromeda...

 

 

 

THE HATE

 

Oh the sweet taste of some acolyte hate juice... There's an enhanced appeal and respect gained from achieving things through hard work and how someone can skillfully diversify to achieve it. It's not just about what others think or feel about others but its also a matter of personal principle. The acolyte is a very effective weapon but it has had a negative affect on the overall player base by arousing a strong and crippling dependency and therefore killing most of the incentives for critical and creative problem solving via skillful diversification. Why diversify when you can just acolyte? Why work with weapons that require a degree of aiming when you can just acolyte? Why experiment with and explore our inherent skillful creative genius as human beings like ARGENT and most of the top players did when you can just acolyte, strip shields, trivialize every game and lol your way through the waves to extraction. This mentality and behavior that has spread throughout most of the player base has become the object of scorn and lament to many players that prefer skillful diversification and/or diversity in general....The same can be said for any crutch weapon like reegar and the grenade launcher that is the venom.. 

 

 

The majority love the acolyte mainly because of the ease and simplicity it brings the the MP experience. The minority hate it because it promotes dependency and removes almost all incentive for critical thought, skillful and diverse play.....

 

good post. 

[Cryos_Feron]

@ those who keep saying that this whole topic is pointless :

 

You might wonder why this second (!) thread again has so many viewers and replies.

 

All fake accounts.

[Kenny Bania]

@ those who keep saying that this whole topic is pointless :

 

You might wonder why this second (!) thread again has so many viewers and replies.

 

All fake accounts.

 

Erm....It's what we do here. Argue about pointless things.

 

Also, this topic isn't asking for biower to exclude the weapon form the game for the fear of being outscored by an Acolyte user.

[Salarian Master Race]

proof is in the pudding & my pudding tastes amazing..

 

If Lmysterie said that, it would be pretty hot.

 

When you say that, it's just gross.

[Cryos_Feron]

Erm....It's what we do here. Argue about pointless things.

 

good point

then I recommend you reply and write this into every thread.

 

Have fun doing this !

[Kenny Bania]

good point

then I recommend you reply and write this into every thread.

 

Have fun doing this !

 

Nah, I'm good. I've got work to do.

[Cryos_Feron]

Why do I hardly ever see pugs using it? Since it apparently trivializes the game and allows you to "lol" waves to extraction, you'd think it would be super common. They usually go for the Harrier or Reegar. Could it be because it actually isn't that amazingly awesome? I never think to myself "I really wanna destroy all enemies next match, better equip my Acolyte!"

sounds reasonable.

but I have to admit that it took me a couple of hundred hours to realize how OP it really is.

unlike the Harrier or Reegar.

maybe this is the reason.

[INVADERONE]

The Acolyte actually does require some degree of aiming though. Not like it tracks enemies.

 

Why do I hardly ever see pugs using it? Since it apparently trivializes the game and allows you to "lol" waves to extraction, you'd think it would be super common.  They usually go for the Harrier or Reegar. Could it be because it actually isn't that amazingly awesome? I never think to myself "I really wanna destroy all enemies next match, better equip my Acolyte!"

 

Someone using the Acolyte can totally strategize and problem solve as well. I had to do that during my Platinum solo, despite using the Acolyte. I can also still be a team player and use it. I might not need help stripping shields, but I still constantly set off biotic and tech explosions for others. 

 

I guess I will never understand that point of view. 

 

 

Yeah. You are very on point. I rarely see pugs using it. I think the hate comes from Solo'ers vids or just solos in general where it has been used often or as an add on to make quicker work of the enemy. The only time I have seen the Acolyte really being used in games was with non-pugs...people on my friends list or those who have it a level X where it really becomes more special and even then...the charge up mechanic is not user friendly for most. 

 

Mostly its just a lot of us being elitist and trashing the gun indicating that it trivializes everything as opposed to spending 10 minutes trying to take down a somersaulting phantom's barriers with a level II CSMG. The Acolyte has its place and its a great gun. The game needed it, especially when Platinum came around. It doesn't trivialize platinum it simply aids with the boss spam.  

[PatrickBateman]

Yeah. You are very on point. I rarely see pugs using it. I think the hate comes from Solo'ers vids or just solos in general where it has been used often or as an add on to make quicker work of the enemy. The only time I have seen the Acolyte really being used in games was with non-pugs...people on my friends list or those who have it a level X where it really becomes more special and even then...the charge up mechanic is not user friendly for most.

Mostly its just a lot of us being elitist and trashing the gun indicating that it trivializes everything as opposed to spending 10 minutes trying to take down a somersaulting phantom's barriers with a level II CSMG. The Acolyte has its place and its a great gun. The game needed it, especially when Platinum came around. It doesn't trivialize platinum it simply aids with the boss spam.

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