My very first game with her I was like 'omg'
Then after playing to the mid teens I was like 'OMG'
Then after playing in groups of 3 or 4 of her in the same match I was like 'Oh....My......God'
By far the most effective when running in packs of 2 or 3 of them for sure.
The other really big added feature of her is that after getting hit by a fire wratih your character does not go 'WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
All these threads, but no one has discussed my one burning question - how is her banter?!?!?!?!
Yes, yes I know. This is what passes for humor in my caffeine-deprived brain. 
My very first game with her I was like 'omg'
Then after playing to the mid teens I was like 'OMG'
Then after playing in groups of 3 or 4 of her in the same match I was like 'Oh....My......God'
My reaction EXACTLY. She just kept getting better. Completed my very first NM run last night with her (woo hoo!).
i can confidently predict taking charging bull off would be a big mistake like it is on the katari
if your cunning is halfway decent, you absolutely need to take Flow of Battle
Just from my first impressions I went with:
Not really sure how her warrior abilities will do though...
All these threads, but no one has discussed my one burning question - how is her banter?!?!?!?!
Yes, yes I know. This is what passes for humor in my caffeine-deprived brain.
I think it's pretty hilarious she has war cry and war horn
I think it's pretty hilarious she has war cry and war horn
Hah, good point.
I didnt understand a lot of what you said since your grammar is so poor. I like reading build guides and watching videos because that makes me a better player. Sure, i can spend hours theorycrafting and trying out builds for myself but id rather have a few proven cookie cutter builds from reliable sources which i can adapt to suit me.
For one thing, You have a clear history of just being negative in a majority of your posts. And I know this is the internet and you can say what you want just about anywhere. But from one person to another. Your word, even on the internet is a reflection of you as a person. Sadly to say, yours is lacking.
Second thing. You clearly dont know anything about me. Yes my grammar is poor. But that comes from the fact that I struggled in my middle school and high school years with a learning disability. I actually never completed a normal curriculum english class in high school.
So yes my grammar is poor, maybe my sentence structure as well. But i typed in very clear and easy to read english. Any person of atleast avg intellegence would have understood what i typed.
I think we now have a clear winner for best level 1. Charging bull + throwing blades + guard on hit? No contest.
Had a match earlier three silent sisters I was AW.
AW - Has anyone tried the ham?
Silent Sisters - ...................
Half expected a tumble weed to flow by.
Sounds like this character will be nerfed before we know it then.
Zan the Man has a Plan
I don't know how they would even do that though. None of her abilities are unique, nerfing them will just hurt other classes who had them first.
She's impressive, but I have seen Pala go down in fights, so she's not invincible.
Also, I kind of like the banter and miss it when it's gone.
She's impressive, but I have seen Pala go down in fights, so she's not invincible.
Also, I kind of like the banter and miss it when it's gone.
That must have taken some doing, lol. She's vulnerable to magic like every non-mage with low willpower, but that's it. Her sheer speed and cooldown reduction is more than enough to keep her alive.
Also, PSA for everybody trying her out: don't get lunge + slash. The second hit that is supposed to involve the shield apparently doesn't work without one, so you just swing at empty air.
I am using Charging bull,Hidden blades,Throwing blades,War horn.
So assuming not much has changed from the beta...
Throwing Blades, Hidden Blades+, War Cry+, and Charge with all the "do-stuff-on-crits" skills is hilariously fun.
Guard generation for decades and so many daggers getting thrown everywhere that you almost forget you're a melee class.
Played a single round with her, even at level 1 she is kicking much arse and taking many names.
This might even be a rogue I like.
...also dunno who PFs or mortiels are lol
Honestly, neither do I. I think Pork is imagining things. I never make any build guides. Neither does that other bloke that has a thing for Antarctic wildlife.
Bet your the type of player that cant wait for a certain somebody to post a build. So he can tell you how best to help him and the class he plays.
I make build guides because I enjoy sharing as part of a community. I also watch/read build guides from the likes of Yallegro, Drasca, Penguin, Darcblade, and others. I share my thoughts on their builds, and they on mine. It's a common concept in a community, for ideas to be shared. Other people enjoy to add ideas to a build to tweak it to their own liking. It's not about telling people how to play.
Sorry if people sharing their passion doesn't do it for you, but don't expect a warm reaction when you act condescending about it.
I saw the video and it reminds me of AW but with much more DPS.
Just spam everything you have when they are ready. Grats you soloed NM. Seems like a broken and boring character.
Charging Bull, Spinning Blades, Hidden Blades and War Horn seem to work best on NM so far.
War Horn is a must against shield mooks and hordes of Knights and Horrors.
Broken and boring?
Broken she may be but not boring. Hell, you can spam damage abilities due crit reset, you can run over the field via Charging Bull (weeeeeeeeeee), you can taunt enemies and tank, you can fear enemies, you can dodge and even increase the parties damage. If you can't find anything there you not find boring then you should consider switching the game.
I think removing Charging Bull and one guard passive should bring her down to a normal level and revitalize Katari.
Btw...you can solo Nightmare on Legionnaire 20 with ease. I bet you can even do it on low prestige level without a top tier weapon and accessory. But the question is...why would you solo in a multiplayer game? :/ Sad times...loved my Final Fantasy 11...64 people events...
The thing I think makes her strongest is that she doesn't have wasted passives, and her tree is well constructed so that you get complementary abilities, the only locked passives are on war horn, which is a strong power that is very reliable and worth using.
The old characters have trees that are marred by inefficiency, vital passives locked behind weak powers, and many, many passives that just do not work hogging the early parts of the tree.
If the other characters had passive set ups like her they would be much stronger with the powers they have, and there is evidence the devs are working on that problem.
The Katari is the character that is most overshadowed, and I am pretty sure this has more to do with his good passive abilities being locked at the far end of both trees, and all the early ones being unhelpful, rather than his powers themselves. He just needs a bunch of his passives fixed, moved, and modified slightly.
IMO she's not broken, although Flow of battle with very high cunning (I was watching Medallian's stream yesterday) does make her look very powerful.
She's a good kit and can function very well on her own, but her role in teamplay isn't well defined. She's not as powerful as the reaver, as tanky as the legionnaire or as supportive as the templar. She's a good all-around character, and since pugs don't generally focus on teamplay, her being very good in this solo aspect makes her look OP. But yeah, she's not.
I completed a venatori Heartbreaker run with 2 reavers today, so her being viable in Heartbreaker isn't really an argument. At low promotions we didn't like her in the team while testing HB in beta.
Shh. What's that sound? It's the nerfbat incoming! Yeah, I found that I did have enough crafting mats to just craft her armor. So, I did. I then played a private match all the way to round 5 before I got killed. Then, I realized I didn't have a SHOK on (or any accessories for that matter.) Level 1 badassery right thur.
Well apparently she's OP. Maybe she needs a nerf on her guard generation for less survivability. Note: Players who tell me she's OP have high cunning, and no CD on hidden blades / throwing blades could indeed make her much more powerful than intended.
It's a shame she doesn't have any unique skills to her class....
It's like she is the Costco version of DAI:MP character.
No new skills, no voice and no unique character model.
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