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[In Exile]

Admiral Anderson was a military officer. Primarch Victus was a general. Urdnot Wrex was a bounty hunter. I guess these are the types of people who should be leading then. This is the hidden message.

 

The Asari councilor is hardly the worst here. Udina had become defacto civilian leader of the Earth Alliance after the destruction of Arcturus Station by the Reapers. He could have been a hero, but he threw in with one of the enemies we were fighting against - one of the enemies Admiral Hackett was fighting against: Cerberus. The Asari Councilor was only doing what the Matriarchs representing the different republics were telling her to do. Same with the Salarian Councilor, and the Turian Councilor. The Dalatrass on the other hand....

 

Regarding the Krogan, it's probably a Krogan male since most Krogan would rather fight for credits than remain on Tuchanka. So there's probably a few Krogan males who volunteered for the security force for a ton of credits. Who says there are Krogan females? And another thing.... since the genophage was only mentioned as released on Tuchanka, how did it get released on other Krogan worlds like Garvug? There is no mention in lore about that. Or does the cold environment and lack of food there take care of the excess population?

 

I thought the genophage was an airborne commutable disease? So the krogran spread it to each other.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

All politicians who weren't actually politicians.

Well, krogan don't really have politicians. Wrex is the closest thing they've had to one for over a millennium. So he's blazing the trail for what a krogan politician is.

 

As for Anderson and Victus, they were both elected into their role by the customs of their race so that's why I counted them. 

[In Exile]

Well, krogan don't really have politicians. Wrex is the closest thing they've had to one for over a millennium. So he's blazing the trail for what a krogan politician is.

 

As for Anderson and Victus, they were both elected into their role by the customs of their race so that's why I counted them. 

 

Are we talking about Anderson as Councilor? Because it wasn't entirely clear how that happened.

[Killroy]

Well, krogan don't really have politicians. Wrex is the closest thing they've had to one for over a millennium. So he's blazing the trail for what a krogan politician is.
 
As for Anderson and Victus, they were both elected into their role by the customs of their race so that's why I counted them.

Some war hero pointing at someone is the custom of selecting politicians for humans?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Are we talking about Anderson as Councilor? Because it wasn't entirely clear how that happened.

Some war hero pointing at someone is the custom of selecting politicians for humans?

All Shepard does in endorse Anderson. He would still have to be elected, either by the people or by the Council. Either way involves going by the system, either the Systems Alliance's or the Citadel Council's.

[Drone223]

Problem with the prothean beacon on Thessia was that had the asari shared it earlier instead of waiting for their homeworld to be under siege a lot of lives would've been saved and the war won sooner. There's also the fact that they created the laws that banned withholding prothean tech so that they can have the advantage over other species.

[Vilio1]

Problem with the prothean beacon on Thessia was that had the asari shared it earlier instead of waiting for their homeworld to be under siege a lot of lives would've been saved and the war won sooner. There's also the fact that they created the laws that banned withholding prothean tech so that they can have the advantage over other species.

We wouldn't have won sooner. The Vendetta VI was programmed to activate when the Crucible reached a certain stage.

[themikefest]

Well, if it wasn't for one specific asari, the whole cycle of reaping would have started three years sooner and this cycle would have been doomed to the same fate as all the ones before it. 

Incorrect. If it wasn't for the Prothean scientists altering the signal, this cycle would've been harvested like every other cycle.

[Drone223]

We wouldn't have won sooner. The Vendetta VI was programmed to activate when the Crucible reached a certain stage.

Hardly the TIM wouldn't have warned the reaper's and the crucible would've been sent to the citadel as soon as it was done, there wouldn't be a need to send the fleets to earth.

[Chealec]

Some war hero pointing at someone is the custom of selecting politicians for humans?

 

A couple of hundred "banana republics" can't be wrong surely?

[themikefest]

We wouldn't have won sooner. The Vendetta VI was programmed to activate when the Crucible reached a certain stage.

If Cerberus was able to hack Vendetta to find out that the catlyst is the Citadel, why couldn't the Alliance or someone else hack it?

 

The moment the asari decided not to reveal that beacon earlier, they took away any opportunity of knowing if it would make a difference

[Vilio1]

Hardly the TIM wouldn't have warned the reaper's and the crucible would've been sent to the citadel as soon as it was done, there wouldn't be a need to send the fleets to earth.

But the Crucible wasn't finished before Cronos anyway, what difference would it have made?

Shepard: If you'd told me sooner, we could have prepared for this.

Vendetta: It was feared that if the Reapers learned of the catalyst's intended use, they would retake control of it. I was programmed to withold that information until the Crucible was ready.

[Dantriges]

Because the Alliance doesn´t have Cerberus reaper enhanced superhacking tools. I mean Kai Leng and  Eva downloaded data in an eyeblink and deleting it in the the process from a device using touchy-feely prothean imprinttech. And Eva smashed the terminal. Yep that will help. That´s really leet hacking. Meanwhile the Alliance sat 30 years in front of that thing and didn´t discover the Crucible data and what else.The Asari never realized that there was a VI lurking inside the beacon for thousands of years.

[In Exile]

All Shepard does in endorse Anderson. He would still have to be elected, either by the people or by the Council. Either way involves going by the system, either the Systems Alliance's or the Citadel Council's.

But there's a huge problem with the Council picking him - it gets into pretty serious political sovereignty issues. Think of what it would be like IRL if the UN could name the e.g. UK, US and Chinese delegates, incl. the security council members.

[Drone223]

But the Crucible wasn't finished before Cronos anyway, what difference would it have made?

Shepard: If you'd told me sooner, we could have prepared for this.

Vendetta: It was feared that if the Reapers learned of the catalyst's intended use, they would retake control of it. I was programmed to withold that information until the Crucible was ready.

Actually it is finished (or extremely close to completion) before Cronos since it only needs the catalyst. Also Shepard wouldn't need to go on a wild goose to chase to find the VI which by the time he/she fins it TIM had already alerted the reapers that the citadel was the final piece needed to complete the crucible.

[Vilio1]

If Cerberus was able to hack Vendetta to find out that the catlyst is the Citadel, why couldn't the Alliance or someone else hack it?
 
The moment the asari decided not to reveal that beacon earlier, they took away any opportunity of knowing if it would make a difference

Maybe the alliance would have been able to hack it, but I doubt it. The asari are more advanced and they couldn't properly activate the beacon. And what difference would it have made? The Prothean VI did say the Citadel was the Catalyst. Ok, great. Realistically, our people who build the crucible should have figured that out themselves.

[Drone223]

Maybe the alliance would have been able to hack it, but I doubt it. The asari are more advanced and they couldn't properly activate the beacon. And what difference would it have made? The Prothean VI did say the Citadel was the Catalyst. Ok, great. Realistically, our people who build the crucible should have figured that out themselves.

If Cerberus was able to hack it then then Alliance asari etc. should be able to do so as well.

[Vilio1]

Actually it is finished (or extremely close to completion) before Cronos since it only needs the catalyst. Also Shepard wouldn't need to go on a wild goose to chase to find the VI which by the time he/she fins it TIM had already alerted the reapers that the citadel was the final piece needed to complete the crucible.

But the catalyst always knew that. It says that the plans first appeared several cycles ago. And I think cerberus has more advanced technology, playing with Reaper tech.

[themikefest]

Maybe the alliance would have been able to hack it, but I doubt it. The asari are more advanced and they couldn't properly activate the beacon.

Cerberus was only able to hack Vendetta after it was taken and not before. So if the asari had revealed it earlier, its possible that Vendetta could've been hacked
 

And what difference would it have made?

A lot. Had that beacon been revealed earlier, a lot of lives could've been saved by using the crucible earlier. The asari took away that opportunity when they decided not to reveal the beacon until the reapers were knocking on their backdoor
 

The Prothean VI did say the Citadel was the Catalyst. Ok, great. Realistically, our people who build the crucible should have figured that out themselves.

I do agree that its hard to believe that all the engineers and scientists working on the project didn't have any idea that it could attach to the citadel 

[Mordokai]

Maybe the alliance would have been able to hack it, but I doubt it. The asari are more advanced and they couldn't properly activate the beacon. And what difference would it have made? The Prothean VI did say the Citadel was the Catalyst. Ok, great. Realistically, our people who build the crucible should have figured that out themselves.

 

 

But the catalyst always knew that. It says that the plans first appeared several cycles ago. And I think cerberus has more advanced technology, playing with Reaper tech.

 

Bottom line being, the plot is driven by power of stupidity. If Alliance and/or asari republic would be as competent/smart as we have reasons to believe they should be, the whole plot of ME3 would fall over itself pretty quickly.

 

So throw in a terrorist organization and have them do all the work, making everybody else look stupid in the process. Problem solved.

[Former_Fiend]

Well, krogan don't really have politicians. Wrex is the closest thing they've had to one for over a millennium. So he's blazing the trail for what a krogan politician is.

 

As for Anderson and Victus, they were both elected into their role by the customs of their race so that's why I counted them. 

 

Neither Anderson or Victus were elected; Anderson was appointed to the Council and Victus inherited leadership and was in a position to do so due military promotion. And Wrex, of course, headbutted his way to the position of clan leader which, like Victus' post as Primarch, is both a political and military position, though a much less formal one.

 

Point being, all three of these men are politicians, but none of them are elected politicians, and that was the initial distinction. 

[Spectr61]

Problem with the prothean beacon on Thessia was that had the asari shared it earlier instead of waiting for their homeworld to be under siege a lot of lives would've been saved and the war won sooner. There's also the fact that they created the laws that banned withholding prothean tech so that they can have the advantage over other species.

Absolutely.

Selfish, self-centered, and untrustworthy.

The lot of them out the airlock.

[Dantriges]

I´m pretty sure humanity would have done the same with the Eden Prime beacon, if they hadn´t wanted the galactic goodwill and council expertise.

[Drone223]

I´m pretty sure humanity would have done the same with the Eden Prime beacon, if they hadn´t wanted the galactic goodwill and council expertise.

I'm pretty sure they didn't create a law that forbids withholding prothean technology and then deliberately withhold said technology in order to have an advantage. 

[Barquiel]

I'm pretty sure they didn't create a law that forbids withholding prothean technology and then deliberately withhold said technology in order to have an advantage.

No, they only denied council archeologists access to a newly opened chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars, you know...where the crucible blueprints were stored.