No, they only denied council archeologists access to a newly opened chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars, you know...where the crucible blueprints were stored.
Except the alliance had no idea that it held the blueprints and when the reapers did finally show up the Alliance began sharing what it knew. The asari on the other hand waited till their homeworld was under siege if they shared the beacon earlier then a lot of people (including their own) would've been saved.
I meant hiding the beacon. Does it matter that they didn´t knew the archive had the blueprints? It was still prothean tech.
Except the alliance had no idea that it held the blueprints and when the reapers did finally show up the Alliance began sharing what it knew. The asari on the other hand waited till their homeworld was under siege if they shared the beacon earlier then a lot of people (including their own) would've been saved.
Not really. The final battle would have taken place in the Serpent Nebula and not in Sol, that's all.
Nope, TIM wouldn't have warned the reaper's that the citadel was the final component for the crucible a final battle with the reaper's may have been avoided and more lives saved.
Nope, TIM wouldn't have warned the reaper's that the citadel was the final component for the crucible a final battle with the reaper's may have been avoided and more lives saved.
I still think that the Crucible was a Reaper trap and/or test.
It's a trap in the sense it requires the cycle to focus all their resources on its construction since it seems to be the answer to their problems.
It's a test in the sense that once a cycle manages to construct it to a certain point, new possibilities for that cycle emerge.
You'd think they'd find a way to lock out Destroy if that were the case.
Unless their destruction was part of a planned scenario they had in mind in the event a cycle unified enough to complete the Crucible. After all, the Catalyst doesn't get angry with Shepard choosing Destroy whereas he does if Shepard chooses Refuse. Why wouldn't he get mad at Shepard choosing the option that would kill the Reapers unless it was part of a scenario?
With a destroy power conduit? 
What´s the point? The catalyst tells you that it´s a stupid idea in his opinion and organics will be wiped out by synthetics in a few generations. Is it there so the catalyst could see, if the stupid monkey wants to blow up every synthetic in existence anyways? If he wanted to know that, he could simply design a fake destroy button and you hear "You got pranked" after you push it.
I find it hard to get riled up over a law that was retconned into existence. You are openly talking with Anderson in front of Nihlus at the begnning of ME 1 and Nihlus mentioning diplomatic benefits, not "it´s the law you stupid monkey." Then we have Feros, where a company that is specialised on exploiting alien artifacts on a prothean world. They don´t seem to have council overseers in case they find something. We have Liara hoarding prothean stuff in her apartment without the spectre or the police saying anything besides "expensive taste." Let´s not forget the archive where we see zero council researchers in case the Alliance neglects to mention a discovery in one of the biggest finds ever.
Then we find an obelisk of Karza, The Volus mentions a prothean obelisk, which could be useful and a whole bunch of other stuff like datadrives and so on which suddenly appear in larger numbers and no one says to "please keep quiet about it" or so. Don´t know about Bryson´s prothean tech lying around, perhaps he had a permit for it.
Seems to me this law just popped up before Thessia and that´s it. There was a ton of prothean artifacts lying around during Shepard´s journey.
Tevos could have simply said that the Asari have this beacon that helped them in their technological development like the martian archives did for humanity. After the Reaper invasion their scientists looked into it and they think they found something valuable but they can´t gain access to it. As these things tend to react weird when Shepard comes along, because of the Cypher, she suggests that you go there. But uh well, it doesn´t fit the theme of the mission, dirty little secrets of the Asari and protheans.
May be not as exciting as getting all hyped up that this thing will win the war, before we ever get a look at it. For all we know it could simply transmit the usual message from Ilos after all. It´s a beacon, we´ve never seen a beacon doing anything else and the asari sifted through it for thousands of years probably.
Someone mentioned before krogan politics....i do admit i'm kind of interested in how a krogan political debate take place 
Also criticizing asari for keeping hidden the prothean VI is pointless had no humans traitors aka Cerberus sided with the Reapers there would be no problems to begin with. Humans need to look up in the mirror before advancing critics to any race out there. Our Cerberus was the biggest threat to the entire war effort.
With a destroy power conduit?
I find it hard to get riled up over a law that was retconned into existence. You are openly talking with Anderson in front of Nihlus at the begnning of ME 1 and Nihlus mentioning diplomatic benefits, not "it´s the law you stupid monkey." Then we have Feros, where a company that is specialised on exploiting alien artifacts on a prothean world. They don´t seem to have council overseers in case they find something. We have Liara hoarding prothean stuff in her apartment without the spectre or the police saying anything besides "expensive taste." Let´s not forget the archive where we see zero council researchers in case the Alliance neglects to mention a discovery in one of the biggest finds ever.
Then we find an obelisk of Karza, The Volus mentions a prothean obelisk, which could be useful and a whole bunch of other stuff like datadrives and so on which suddenly appear in larger numbers and no one says to "please keep quiet about it" or so. Don´t know about Bryson´s prothean tech lying around, perhaps he had a permit for it.
Seems to me this law just popped up before Thessia and that´s it. There was a ton of prothean artifacts lying around during Shepard´s journey.
Tevos could have simply said that the Asari have this beacon that helped them in their technological development like the martian archives did for humanity. After the Reaper invasion their scientists looked into it and they think they found something valuable but they can´t gain access to it. As these things tend to react weird when Shepard comes along, because of the Cypher, she suggests that you go there. But uh well, it doesn´t fit the theme of the mission, dirty little secrets of the Asari and protheans.
May be not as exciting as getting all hyped up that this thing will win the war, before we ever get a look at it. For all we know it could simply transmit the usual message from Ilos after all. It´s a beacon, we´ve never seen a beacon doing anything else and the asari sifted through it for thousands of years probably.
Exactly, not to mention the Prothean VI only reacted to Prothean markers, found in Shepard or Javik. Cerberus had ample Shepard material to help crack the VI, including a goddamned clone. The Asari couldn't have activated it. Tevos thought the beacon might only give a location of where the catalyst was, not even what it was supposed to be.
The Catalyst knew about the Crucible designs for several cycles. It certainly knows about this cycle's version through the indoctrinated prothean scientists.
And I think that it was the Reaper's plans to move the Citadel to Earth anyway, to collect all the human DNA there and create another Human-Reaper. Vendetta said something like "Earth's Harvest is about to finish."
Except they didn't know what the final component for the crucible was though, they only found out the moment TIM hacked the prothean VI so if TIM didn't get the VI in the first place the reaper's wouldn't know that the final component for the crucible was the citadel.
Someone mentioned before krogan politics....i do admit i'm kind of interested in how a krogan political debate take place
Also criticizing asari for keeping hidden the prothean VI is pointless had no humans traitors aka Cerberus sided with the Reapers there were no problems to begin with. Humans need to look up in the mirror before advancing critics to any race out there. Our Cerberus was the biggest threat to the entire war effort.
Hardly Cerberus was always considered an enemy of the Alliance long before the reaper's showed up, the asari get called out because they created the law that forbids hording prothean tech yet that's exactly what their doing by withholding the existence of the prothean beacon.
Except they didn't know what the final component for the crucible was though, they only found out the moment TIM hacked the prothean VI so if TIM didn't get the VI in the first place the reaper's wouldn't know that the final component for the crucible was the citadel.
And we are coming back full circle to you condemning a whole species for the actions of a few in power, which is incredibly hypocritical on your part since you're not doing the same for humans. The vast majority of Asari had no idea there was a Prothean beacon in Athame's temple. The other species didn't condemn the whole mankind for the actions of a group of terrorists, or even the actions of a full renegade Shepard dooming the whole Council to death, and Geth, Quarians, Krogans to more or less slow extinction. I don't know, how do you weight hoarding a bit of tech against mass genocide?Hardly Cerberus was always considered an enemy of the Alliance long before the reaper's showed up, the asari get called out because they created the law that forbids hording prothean tech yet that's exactly what their doing by withholding the existence of the prothean beacon.
Except they didn't know what the final component for the crucible was though, they only found out the moment TIM hacked the prothean VI so if TIM didn't get the VI in the first place the reaper's wouldn't know that the final component for the crucible was the citadel.
I´m pretty sure humanity would have done the same with the Eden Prime beacon, if they hadn´t wanted the galactic goodwill and council expertise.
Yeah, well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Humanity may have done the same if given the chance, but they did not.
Yup humanity did worse.
1) Citadel coup
2) Benning attacks
3) The Miranda Dad's lab
4) Pragia
5) Experiments with Thorians and Rachnis
6) Trying to detonate a nuke on Tuchanka
and insert any other Cerberus failed experiments.
Humanity.......out of the airlock we should go??
Just don't pretend Cerberus aren't humans. They are the worst of humanity. Should you judge an entire race based on a group of people? I don't think so. Quit with the hypocrisy
Exactly, not to mention the Prothean VI only reacted to Prothean markers, found in Shepard or Javik. Cerberus had ample Shepard material to help crack the VI, including a goddamned clone. The Asari couldn't have activated it. Tevos thought the beacon might only give a location of where the catalyst was, not even what it was supposed to be.
That's utter nonsense TIM was able to do it without a prothean marker if he was able to do it without it than so can the asari.
You see, that's exactly the kind of stupid, utter nonsense that makes me so happy we are moving far, far away from all this crap. Let it be forgotten, it's not redeemable in any way. Crap can't be transformed in gold, it will only give more crap.
And we are coming back full circle to you condemning a whole species for the actions of a few in power, which is incredibly hypocritical on your part since you're not doing the same for humans. The vast majority of Asari had no idea there was a Prothean beacon in Athame's temple. The other species didn't condemn the whole mankind for the actions of a group of terrorists, or even the actions of a full renegade Shepard dooming the whole Council to death, and Geth, Quarians, Krogans to more or less slow extinction. I don't know, how do you weight hoarding a bit of tech against mass genocide?
Edit: I forgot the Rachni and Batarians
The asari are considered to be the compromises and diplomats of the galaxy, yet its okay for them get away with withholding prothean tech when they were the ones who made it illegal to do so in the first place. The asari deserve to be called out on their hypocrisy.
The Citadel is "part" of the Catalyst and you really want to tell me that "the starchild" didn't know what the final component for the crucible was before TIM explains it? That makes no sense. "The Device you refer to as the crucible is little more then a power source. However, in combination with the Citadel and the mass relays, it is capable of releasing tremendous amounts of energy throughout the galaxy. It is crude but effective and adaptive in its design."
That only happens after the crucible has connected with the citadel, but before the reaper's didn't know what the catalyst is.
They did. Sort of.
While the Protheans didn't try to colonize another galaxy as far as we know, they did try to hide pockets of their population within the Milky Way until the Reapers departed. That is basically the same strategy, except the Protheans chose to stay closer to home. Sending colonists to Andromeda is basically from the same playbook as Ilos or Eden Prime, the only difference is that the Protheans played it safe and stuck to explored space while the Council (or whomever) is gambling on travel into the unknown.
And the Asari already know it didn't worked. So another galaxy it is.
That's utter nonsense TIM was able to do it without a prothean marker if he was able to do it without it than so can the asari.
It was already activated by Shepard
It was already activated by Shepard
The asari we're using it for centuries they were more than capable of locating the VI.
That's utter nonsense TIM was able to do it without a prothean marker if he was able to do it without it than so can the asari.
The asari are considered to be the compromises and diplomats of the galaxy, yet its okay for them get away with withholding prothean tech when they were the ones who made it illegal to do so in the first place. The asari deserve to be called out on their hypocrisy.
That only happens after the crucible has connected with the citadel, but before the reaper's didn't know what the catalyst is.
The asari we're using it for centuries they were more than capable of locating the VI.
The asari weren't using it, they were studying it. They couldn't use it, because it needed a prothean to activate.
The asari weren't using it, they were studying it. They couldn't use it, because it needed a prothean to activate.
Then how were they able to maintain their technological advantage? It's quite obvious that its the source of their technological advantage.
The beacon's VI was only activated because of the prothean cypher or Javik. Shepard, Javik and EDI (on the ship) all confirm this.
I believe Drone223 is referring to TIM was able to hack the VI after it was revealed and that if Cerberus could hack it, why couldn't someone else hack it?
Then how were they able to maintain their technological advantage? It's quite obvious that its the source of their technological advantage.
They no doubt gained advantages from studying the technology used in its construction.
Though I don't see any particular reason why the Asari couldn't have maintained a technological edge largely through their own efforts.
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