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[marcelo caldas]

That's a very good question but maybe they did and there will be Protheans in Andromeda. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that way.

I bet everyone makes it to andromeda but the reapers

[Killroy]

Apples and oranges DS9 was set in the same galaxy as the other star trek series, it didn't ditch the established setting completely. ME:A is ditching the ME for good it might as well be a new IP.

Mass Effect Andromeda is ditching the Mass Effect? What?
A new setting means a new franchise? So Star Trek:Voyager wasn't a Star Trek series?
If you're going to be melodramatic at least try to make some kind of sense.

[Drone223]

A new title in a new location retroactively makes the trilogy pointless? How? Has EA developed time travel technology, to bend time and space and ruin your Mass Effect experience before it began?
Listen to how silly you're being. You played the trilogy. You had a complete experience. No sequel can have any effect on that. Even if they rebooted the series and did a canon wipe, your experience with the trilogy would still be the same as it ever was.
 

By ditching the MW  Bioware is end up ignoring a good amount of the history and lore established in the trilogy it might as well not have happened in the first place.

 

 

So you had no questions or thoughts on what happened after the epilogue but now that Andromeda is forthcoming nothing else but those thoughts and question matter?
This is maddeningly stupid.

 

Wanting to know what happened to the galaxy after the war isn't unreasonable, the EC can only show so much of what happened to the galaxy after the war.

 

Mass Effect Andromeda is ditching the Mass Effect? What?
A new setting means a new franchise? So Star Trek:Voyager wasn't a Star Trek series?
If you're going to be melodramatic at least try to make some kind of sense.

If the N7 logo didn't show up the teaser trailer could've easily be taken for a new IP.

[Killroy]

By ditching the MW  Bioware is end up ignoring a good amount of the history and lore established in the trilogy it might as well not have happened in the first place.

That's entirely stupid. It's like saying 'Better Call Saul' invalidates 'Breaking Bad' because it doesn't show what happens to Jesse after the finale.
 

Wanting to know what happened to the galaxy after the war isn't unreasonable, the EC can only show so much of what happened to the galaxy after the war.

What does ME:A have to do with that? You can still wonder and ponder on what happens in the Milky Way after ME3 all you want. ME:A is telling a different story and nothing that happens in it changes what happened in the trilogy or your experience playing the trilogy.
 

If the N7 logo didn't show up the teaser trailer could've easily be taken for a new IP.

I guess you missed the omni-blade, and the lighting, and the visual cues akin to previous Mass Effect trailers, and the fact that they're allowed to do whatever the hell they want with their IPs.

[Malanek]

I personally don't think it was at the time and I personally don't think they should try and tie it to that. The problem is that it would indicate that the council knew about the reapers for much longer but their actions were clearly contrary to that in ME2.

[N7Jamaican]

This again? I wouldn't be surprised if the Asari's were working on the ARK.

[Killroy]

I personally don't think it was at the time and I personally don't think they should try and tie it to that. The problem is that it would indicate that the council knew about the reapers for much longer but their actions were clearly contrary to that in ME2.

Their denial of the Reaper threat in ME2 is literally a punchline it's so silly. Retconning the Council's stupidity would be an improvement IMO.

[Drone223]

That's entirely stupid. It's like saying 'Better Call Saul' invalidates 'Breaking Bad' because it doesn't show what happens to Jesse after the finale.
 

Apples and oranges, "Better call Saul" is a spin off of "breaking bad" it doesn't continue off "breaking bad". ME:A is the continuation of the ME series as a whole a lot of what is established in the trilogy will be gone for good.

 

What does ME:A have to do with that? You can still wonder and ponder on what happens in the Milky Way after ME3 all you want. ME:A is telling a different story and nothing that happens in it changes what happened in the trilogy or your experience playing the trilogy.

 

 

Head canon will do no justice since a lot of things can happened after the war and there will be no way of knowing because its being ditched for good.

 

 

I guess you missed the omni-blade, and the lighting, and the visual cues akin to previous Mass Effect trailers,

 

The omni-blade appears around the same as the N7 logo and other sci-fi franchises also have similar lighting and visual cues.

 

 

......and the fact that they're allowed to do whatever the hell they want with their IPs.

 

That doesn't excuse it from criticism, if there are problems with what Bioware is doing with their franchise they should be called out on it.

[Killroy]

Apples and oranges, "Better call Saul" is a spin off of "breaking bad" it doesn't continue off "breaking bad". ME:A is the continuation of the ME series as a whole a lot of what is established in the trilogy will be gone for good.

Who says Andromeda isn't a spin-off? It's not called 'Mass Effect 4' and no BioWare dev has ever called it a direct continuation of the trilogy. These asspulls of yours are getting sillier and sillier.
 

Head canon will do no justice since a lot of things can happened after the war and there will be no way of knowing because its being ditched for good.

So they're not allowed to do anything that doesn't explain exactly what happens in the Milky Way after ME3? Even if the only way to do that is to ignore player's choices? And how does not continuing from where ME3 left off invalidate the trilogy? You cannot make a coherent argument to back up that claim. What you want them to do would actually invalidate the trilogy in a way since it would undermine the core tenant of the franchise(player choice).
 

The omni-blade appears around the same as the N7 logo and other sci-fi franchises also have similar lighting and visual cues.

So? 'Pulp Fiction' didn't invent non-linear storytelling but that's what it's known for and it's what people think about when they think of non-linear storytelling.
 

That doesn't excuse it from criticism, if there are problems with what Bioware is doing with their franchise they should be called out on it.

The "problems" you think ME:A has are entirely and objectively silly.

[Iakus]

Apples and oranges, "Better call Saul" is a spin off of "breaking bad" it doesn't continue off "breaking bad". ME:A is the continuation of the ME series as a whole a lot of what is established in the trilogy will be gone for good.

 

 

 

Better Call Saul is, in fact a prequel to Breaking Bad.  It's Saul Goodman's origin story.  In Mass Effect terms, it would be like having a Mass Effect game centered on Garrus' C-Sec days.

 

Who says Andromeda isn't a spin-off? It's not called 'Mass Effect 4' and no BioWare dev has ever called it a direct continuation of the trilogy. These asspulls of yours are getting sillier and sillier.
 

As silly as relocating to another galaxy in an Ark that couldn't possibly have been worked on for more than a year or two, much of it during a genocidal war against the Reapers?  

[Xaijin]

That line in ME3 serves its own story's purpose, dramaturgically, so I'm hesitant to think it was an intentional link to the next game. But as Han Shot First says, they definitely should connect those dots and make it a clue

 

 

They didn't have years of warning to prepare, like we did. Even though it's officially disputed ('Ah, yes, "Reapers"...', etc.), it's very likely they would unofficially prepare, at least to some extent, behind the scenes. The Protheans, on the other hand, suffered the usual surprise strike that made anything but feeble resistance possible. Those fragments of the Prothean empire that survived the initial onslaught could probably barely survive - organising an Ark might've been way beyond them.

 

 

Except the protheans resisted for almost a millennia, the Citadel coalition collapsed in literal months until the krogans started putting boots to butts, plenty of time to get a lifeship together and ship it off.

 

Additionally we also know that Javik is basically Wreav+Grunt, so if there are protheans on the other side, they don't necessarily have to be the Khet 2.0, as we saw from Vigil.

[Dantriges]

IIRC it was 300 years.

[Xaijin]

Liara had a guestimation, Javik just said hundreds of years.

[Killroy]

Better Call Saul is, in fact a prequel to Breaking Bad.  It's Saul Goodman's origin story.  In Mass Effect terms, it would be like having a Mass Effect game centered on Garrus' C-Sec days.

It actually takes place before and after 'Breaking Bad' and some of season 2 will take place during 'Breaking Bad.' 

As silly as relocating to another galaxy in an Ark that couldn't possibly have been worked on for more than a year or two, much of it during a genocidal war against the Reapers?  

Oh, are you a dev for the game? Please, give us some more of your insider info.

[Drone223]

Who says Andromeda isn't a spin-off? It's not called 'Mass Effect 4' and no BioWare dev has ever called it a direct continuation of the trilogy. These asspulls of yours are getting sillier and sillier.

Its not a spin off its set after the events of the trilogy so its an indirect sequel of the series so its still a continuation of the series.

 

So they're not allowed to do anything that doesn't explain exactly what happens in the Milky Way after ME3? Even if the only way to do that is to ignore player's choices? And how does not continuing from where ME3 left off invalidate the trilogy? You cannot make a coherent argument to back up that claim.

 

People are going to keep asking Bioware what happened after the trilogy sooner or later their going to have address what happened after the trilogy they can't ignore it forever and pretend the trilogy never happened in the first place.
 

 

What you want them to do would actually invalidate the trilogy in a way since it would undermine the core tenant of the franchise(player choice).

Their invalidating player choices by ditching the MW for good its makes saving the MW pointless.

 

 

 

 

So? 'Pulp Fiction' didn't invent non-linear storytelling but that's what it's known for and it's what people think about when they think of non-linear storytelling.

 

 

If people can mistake what was seen for a different IP then it could end up being Mass Effect in name only.
 

 

The "problems" you think ME:A has are entirely and objectively silly.

Their not, the problems people have with ditching the MW are quite legitimate.

[blahblahblah]

Its not a spin off its set after the events of the trilogy so its an indirect sequel of the series so its still a continuation of the series.

 

 

People are going to keep asking Bioware what happened after the trilogy sooner or later their going to have address what happened after the trilogy they can't ignore it forever and pretend the trilogy never happened in the first place.
 

Their invalidating player choices by ditching the MW for good its makes saving the MW pointless.

 

 

 

 

If people can mistake what was seen for a different IP then it could end up being Mass Effect in name only.
 

Their not, the problems people have with ditching the MW are quite legitimate.

It's very funny that you keep insisting the same pointless argument over and over. Move on. 

[Drone223]

It's very funny that you keep insisting the same pointless argument over and over. Move on. 

If people didn't have a problem with moving to another galaxy then no one would be complaining about it.

[blahblahblah]

If people didn't have a problem with moving to another galaxy then no one would be complaining about it.

If people didn't have a problem with ME3's ending then ME:A never happened.  Just like saying that DA4 will invalidate all of your choices since it will set in Tevinter. Seriously, this argument is getting circular,repetitive and illogical.

[Drone223]

If people didn't have a problem with ME3's ending then ME:A never happened. Seriously, this argument is getting circular,repetitively and illogical. Just like saying that DA4 will invalidate all of your choices since it will set in Tevinter.

A new ME game was going to happen one way or the other its too successful to drop the series after three games. If people don't like the direction Bioware is taking with the next game then they should be allowed to voice their discontent and concerns.

[blahblahblah]

A new ME game was going to happen one way or the other its too successful to drop the series after three games. If people don't like the direction Bioware is taking with the next game then they should be allowed to voice their discontent and concerns.

If you don't like Bioware's current direction then free to leave. Repeating the same, pointless arguments will never make it right.

[Drone223]

If you don't like Bioware's current direction then free to leave. Repeating the same, pointless arguments will never make it right.

If people on BSN don't like it when others voice their discontent then that's their problem. If people were allowed to voice their discontent with the endings shortly after ME3 was released (or any aspect of the series) then others can do the same with ME:A as well.

[blahblahblah]

If people on BSN don't like it when others voice their discontent then that's their problem. If people were allowed to voice their discontent with the endings shortly after ME3 was released then others can do the same with ME:A as well.

If you are that stubborn and illogical then fine. ME:A is happening whether you like it or not. DEAL. WITH. IT.    

[Drone223]

If you are that stubborn and illogical then fine. ME:A is happening whether you like it or not. DEAL. WITH. IT.    

Its not unreasonable for people to continue voicing their skepticism on the next title, it prevents people form being disappointed.

[blahblahblah]

Its not unreasonable for people to continue voicing their skepticism on the next title, it prevents people form being disappointed.

Just accept the reality and move on. ME:A is happening. DEAL. WITH. IT.

[Drone223]

Just accept the reality and move on. ME:A is happening. DEAL. WITH. IT.

Telling people to "deal with it" won't stop them from voicing their skepticism or concerns.