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[Bayonet Hipshot]

I cannot believe I did not see this...It was staring at me the whole time...

 

TITAN is an anagram for TAINT !

 

Could this be just a coincidence or something MOAR ?

[myahele]

The Alamarri that crossed into modern-Ferelden were said to be fleeing a "shadow goddess" of some sort.

 

According to Solas, The "Shadow Goddess" was just a (powerful) spirit who ended up scaring the the Humans away ... now she's alone and regrets it

 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Perhaps it was a powerful spirit who was mischievous ?

[House Lannister]

That close up with the Inquisitor revealing we're inside the titan was hilarious. Reminded me of sarcastic Hawke in MotA

[MisterJB]

That close up with the Inquisitor revealing we're inside the titan was hilarious. Reminded me of sarcastic Hawke in MotA

 

It lacked this.

 

 

[TarotFox]

According to Solas, The "Shadow Goddess" was just a (powerful) spirit who ended up scaring the the Humans away ... now she's alone and regrets it

 

Thank you! I forgot about that scene by the time I read about the Shadow Goddess in the World of Thedas.

[Nixou]

So I guess it explains the Profane and part of the Lost Thaig?

[...]

They were eating lyrium , so I guess those dwarves "ate" their Titans and knew about it?

 

 

I'll expand (a lot) upon my pet theory.

 

Dwarves used to be the Titans' caretakers, and enjoyed a form of symbiosis with them, acting as the Titans' custodians and protectors in exchange of being allowed to live within the Titan and consume a fraction of the Lyrium that compose it, kinda like our gut flora.

 

When A Titan grew old, its magic-siphonophore flesh became tainted, at which point its Dwarven caretakers were supposed to euthanize it and migrate away from its corpse toward still healthy Titans, as the dead Titan's ecosystem would become barren and incapable of sustaining life.

 

But one day, an aging Titan wasn't euthanized: either its caretaker couldn't bring themselves to kill the old god that had sustained them for generations, or the Titan itself dreaded death so much that it was willing to suffer a long painful agony if it delayed its end, and either slaughtered or expelled its caretakers. It's flesh became increasingly tainted, and eventually the taint started to infect younger Titans as well as smaller creatures like the Dwarves who cared for them, resulting in the implementation of strict quarantines: when one Titan was infected, it, alongside all that lived within would be cut-off from the rest of the underground.

 

When it happened to the Titan within which the Primeval Thaig was located, it's Dwarven denizens were locked in: as the Titan grew sicker, its innards' ecosystem collapsed, leaving the Dwarves with no choice apart from consuming its increasingly tainted flesh: they became Profanes because they profaned the carcass of their dying God, remaining there for centuries before Hawke & Varric arrived and unwittingly became the biggest grave robbers in Thedas' recorded history.

[MisterJB]

 

What about Corypheus? If the Taint originates from the Titans, what is the connection with the Black City?

 

Is there any dialogue that indicates there is more than one Titan?

[TeffexPope]

Someone mentioned, don't remember who or what thread, that dragon age lore is very heavy into using blood to connect things in the lore together - i.e. elven blood, which was preferred by Corypheus and the other magisters who breached the Fade, or the importance of Alistair's blood in one of the comics (don't remember what it's called, but it features Yavana or whatever Morrigan's sister's name is). Well here's another example of blood being important to the lore. The revered defenders drank the blood of the titan to become 'pure'. Of course that doesn't explain why they didn't die grisly deaths by ingesting lyrium.

[myahele]

It's its said Titans, plural, meaning there's more than one; what if each Titan has it's own type of Lyrium? There's the blue lyrium we all know and love belonging to the Titan we just discovered.

 

There There's red lyrium that contains the Taint and seems very aggressive.

 

One thing we know is the Titan(s) connection with it's children has been sundered and seems to want to reconnect with its children. While the blue lyrium Titan is more or less passive about it's method ... red lyrium Titan is actively aggressive and anyone will do; they're desperate to connect ...but it has dire consequences.

 

Whispers Written in Red Lyrium 

We are here We have waited We have slept We are sundered We are crippled We are polluted We endure We wait We have found the dreams again We will awaken

[earthboyjak]

I cannot believe I did not see this...It was staring at me the whole time...

TITAN is an anagram for TAINT !

Could this be just a coincidence or something MOAR ?

My god...

[myahele]

I want to know what The Stone is. It's said/ implied that the Titans are The Stones 1st Children. That these Titans are tasked with molding the world as if it were clay ...  

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Perhaps if the Titans were the Stone's first children, then Great Dragons were the Sky's first children and the Spirits were the Fade's first children.

[rapscallioness]

Maybe the aggressive Titan was also the one a poster mentioned above about not wanting to die when the time came?

 

Also the Orlais bit in the Secret Prisoner codex surprised me, too. You know, all this time I pictured the Magisters engaging with Dumat-or more of the old gods, through a dream/magical state. But if they did indeed keep these snake kings as prisoners to interrogate, that may be where they got their knowledge.

 

Initially, it was knowledge about blood magic, then came the story about this Golden City. If you go into that you will be all powerful. But when they did, it apparently was not what they thought and all hell broke loose. Maybe the entering of this area was a way the snake kings could break free, and the Magisters-with their colossal egos at that point, fell for it.

 

Maybe these snake kings were trying to break free and tricked the Tevinters holding them captive into doing it by promising them great power.

 

If Orlais are the ones that roused these beings, then they are right in league with Tevinter Magisters as far as releasing the Blight.

 

Annd then what is the Blight? The red lyrium is blighted blue lyrium. Is it a sickness, as someone mentioned? Like a cancer? Or some foreign object introduced to the "blood" stream?

 

Are the old dragon gods some of the Titans that have possessed the forms of dragons? Is that why Solas was sooo upset at the idea of slaying them all? Did Tevinter worship these old gods without realizing they were indeed Titans? But are they even one and the same?

 

then ofc, the Secret War that the common People do not know about caught my eye. Is it ultimately between the snake kings and the moon men? Who the hell are the moon men?

 

The idea that the aggressive red lyrium being wants to connect so desperately reminds me of the way demons want to connect to this world.

 

I love it. I really hope BW brings this kind of thing more to the forefront of future games. I also hope, if the time comes, that it won't be moon men or snake kings- bad and good. I hope that this secret war has varied motivations between parties engaged in it that are grey.

[JadeDragon]

Elf Blood Dragon Blood Titan Blood Darkspawn Blood. What would happen if someone consumed all the bloods?? And i wonder if a Seekers can harm titans like they can templars or at least that one seeker cassandra mentioned

[rapscallioness]

I forgot abt Seekers being able to set the lyrium in one's blood on fire.

[myahele]

I am really starting to see a that Thedas lore is inspired by Greek creation myth, like many have theorized:

 

 

In the beginning, Chaos, an amorphous, gaping void encompassing the entire universe, and surrounded by an unending stream of water ruled by the god Oceanus, was the domain of a goddess named Eurynome, which means "far-ruling" or "wide-wandering".

 

She was the Goddess of All Things, and desired to make order out of the Chaos. By coupling with a huge and powerful snake, Ophion, or as some legends say, coupling with the North Wind, she gave birth to Eros, god of Love, also known as Protagonus, the "firstborn".

 

Eurynome separated the sky from the sea by dancing on the waves of Oceanus. In this manner, she created great lands upon which she might wander, a veritable universe, populating it with exotic creatures such as nymphs, Furies, and Charites as well as with countless beasts and monsters.

 

Also born out of Chaos were Gaia, called Earth, or Mother Earth, and Uranus, the embodiment of the Sky and the Heavens, as well as Tartarus, god of the sunless and terrible region beneath Gaia, the Earth.

 

Gaia and Uranus married and gave birth to the Titans, a race of formidable giants, which included a particularly wily giant named Cronus.

 

[.....] Together they went to battle against their father (Cronus). The results were that all of his children, led by Zeus, vanquished Cronus forever into Tartarus' domain, the Dark World under the Earth.

 

Thus, Zeus triumphed over not only his father, and his father's family of Giants, he triumphed over his brothers and sisters as well, dividing up the universe as he fancied, in short, bringing order out of Chaos.

 

He made himself Supreme God over all, creating a great and beautiful place for his favored gods to live, on Mount Olympus, in Thessaly. All the others were left to fend for themselves in lands below Mount Olympus.

 

In Thedas we know of:

1. The Void

2. The "1st Children"

3. The Stone

4. Fade which might be the sky

5. Snake Kings

 

Since Titans (children of the Stone) shaped the world long ago and that they were already resting and finished when Elgar'nan came to be. The Sun might very well be literal (just like The Stone) and it's it's 1st children might be dragons. According to the chantry, The Old Gods were not created by The Maker

[Avejajed]

Did you guys do the side content while you we're going down or did you finish main and then go back? I'm going to replay it and am curious.

[Reznore57]

Did you guys do the side content while you we're going down or did you finish main and then go back? I'm going to replay it and am curious.

 

I did the side content while doing the main quest.

I kind of regret it cause it really broke the flow to look for stupid gears and mugs.

[Avejajed]

I did the side content while doing the main quest.
I kind of regret it cause it really broke the flow to look for stupid gears and mugs.

Hmm. Going back has been a bit of a pain though too. No easy access and I forget what places I've opened lol

[rapscallioness]

Elgar'nan god of vengence:

 

 

Vengeance against his father the Sun for destroying all the beautiful things his mother the Land created for him. Sun did it out of jealousy of Elgar'nan's love of that beauty. So he shone his full face on the land and burned everything.

 

In the end, Elgar'nan finally defeated his father and locked him away deep underground.

 

I also believe later that the mother was able to mediate a peace between them? The Sun felt bad about what he'd done.

 

** wasn't there a mosaic tile on the floor when battling Cory for the last time? There was a tile that I took for Solas/Fen' Harel initially. It was just the head. But seeing this image of Elgar'nan. I can't find the pic.

[Elhanan]

Aargh! Collectables!

Have found 6/8 of the Gears in the Warrens, but cannot locate the others. As far as I know, all passages and rooms have been checked. Where are they?

I can skip the mugs, and simply collect the ones that I come across normally, but those Gears may be required to open more doors.

[Reznore57]

Elgar'nan god of vengence:

 

 

Vengeance against his father the Sun for destroying all the beautiful things his mother the Land created for him. Sun did it out of jealousy of Elgar'nan's love of that beauty. So he shone his full face on the land and burned everything.

 

In the end, Elgar'nan finally defeated his father and locked him away deep underground.

 

I also believe later that the mother was able to mediate a peace between them? The Sun felt bad about what he'd done.

 

** wasn't there a mosaic tile on the floor when battling Cory for the last time? There was a tile that I took for Solas/Fen' Harel initially. It was just the head. But seeing this image of Elgar'nan. I can't find the pic.

 

It was Mythal.

So chances are the temple of sacred ashes was build on a Mythal temple/sacred place , might also explain the dragon , she could have been guarding something there for the Goddess.

 

Also now people theorised the whole thing was also build on a dead Titan.

The mountain is full of lyrium.^^

[rapscallioness]

Thanks, Rez.

[MisterJB]

 

So, what are the Titans, assuming there is more than one?

Lyrium is their blood and the mass of it we find at the end of the DLC certainly seemed like an hearth. However, we are still talking about a cave system which has to be connected to the rest of Thedas.

So, Titans are...sentient beings made of rock and lyrium which are part of the mass of Thedas but separate from it at the same time? Or is Thedas a Titan?

As in, every piece of ground you walk upon is part of a Titan?