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[Prince Rhaegar]

I've spent countless hours playing DAI, definitely getting my money's worth out of it and the DLC I've purchased, but today that ends.  I'm sure this post/thread will be deleted and may even get me banned from this forum, but so be it.  I'm also sure all of you have heard this rant before, but I'm a normally patient person whose tolerance has reached its limit.

 

I will never understand why a company would create a game and then basically declare war on the people who are arguably the game's most enthusiastic fans, the modders.  Every patch requires a complete re-working of the modding system, and while I'll be the first to admit I don't know jack about modding/coding, I find it impossible to believe that this is an accident.  I'm not going to waste a lot of time defending or explaining modders and what they do, I think it's pretty obvious that they just want to enjoy the game in a slightly different way than others, and to share that different way with other players who may feel the same.

 

I was literally taking my debit card out of my wallet to purchase Descent today when I realized that the work-around I'd spent the past 24 hours on to use a few of my favorite mods (with patch 8, which I reverted to) was causing my game to crash.  After a little time spent trying to work around this new obstacle, I've given up.  I don't know if EA or Bioware is responsible, but I'll check back in 6 months or so and see if the responsible party has finally decided to give up the crusade because modding is not The Devil.  Until then I'm going to enjoy Diablo 3, X-Com Enemy Unknown, and a few other games I've purchased recently, and I'm going to sorely miss DAI.

[Bryan Johnson]

Hello,

I have commented on this kind of thing before, and as I have said we are not actively breaking mods. We have always said mods are not supported, but we are certainly not testing to see if we break them.

Even skyrim mods (what people consider more or less the pinnacle of modding) had mods break with nearly every patch, it wasn't until the Patching stopped that it became modding heaven.

The mod system that fans have come up with is based on taking the patch that we deploy and adding things to it. So if the base changes of course things are going to break.

Once I am off my lunch and if people want I'll try and find where I go more in depth on this matter.

[drake2511]

Hey, have you tried merging mods with mod manager v. 0.53? It's working for me, while I can't merge mods with the new version (56)

[Bryan Johnson]

Here is the Reddit Post where I talk more about it

https://www.reddit.c...s_up_with_this/

[Ariella]

I've spent countless hours playing DAI, definitely getting my money's worth out of it and the DLC I've purchased, but today that ends.  I'm sure this post/thread will be deleted and may even get me banned from this forum, but so be it.  I'm also sure all of you have heard this rant before, but I'm a normally patient person whose tolerance has reached its limit.
 
I will never understand why a company would create a game and then basically declare war on the people who are arguably the game's most enthusiastic fans, the modders.  Every patch requires a complete re-working of the modding system, and while I'll be the first to admit I don't know jack about modding/coding, I find it impossible to believe that this is an accident.  I'm not going to waste a lot of time defending or explaining modders and what they do, I think it's pretty obvious that they just want to enjoy the game in a slightly different way than others, and to share that different way with other players who may feel the same.
 
I was literally taking my debit card out of my wallet to purchase Descent today when I realized that the work-around I'd spent the past 24 hours on to use a few of my favorite mods (with patch 8, which I reverted to) was causing my game to crash.  After a little time spent trying to work around this new obstacle, I've given up.  I don't know if EA or Bioware is responsible, but I'll check back in 6 months or so and see if the responsible party has finally decided to give up the crusade because modding is not The Devil.  Until then I'm going to enjoy Diablo 3, X-Com Enemy Unknown, and a few other games I've purchased recently, and I'm going to sorely miss DAI.

Geeze...

This ALWAYS happens. In fact in mmo circles it's expected practically every content patch. Modders, or the good ones at least, expect this and then adapt their mods.

[Prince Rhaegar]

Here is the Reddit Post where I talk more about it

https://www.reddit.c...s_up_with_this/

 

Bryan, I appreciate your response, and checked out the thread you linked to.  I have a question (2 part) ... and again, I'm not a modder myself and have very little knowledge of coding, so if these are dumb questions I apologize.  According to what I've been reading on various forums, the reason patch 9 broke so many mods was because it made certain files impossible to change, these files happening to be the ones that mods most often alter.  My question is:

 

1)  Is what I've read true about certain files now being impossible to change?  The error messages I received when I attempted to use mod manager seem to back this up, but again this is an uneducated observation.

2)  If it's true, why was it necessary to make those files impossible to alter?

 

As a sidenote, now that I've ranted (and I apologize for that, my computer died last week, the processor was already overheating and the hard disk just imploded; I'm having to replace all of my games, thank Dumat for Origin, Steam, and Battlenet, but after 4 days I'm still less than 1/4 of the way to restoring my games) I'm going to go ahead and purchase Descent today, and try an unmodded runthrough.  Giving credit where credit is due, I loved Origins, I actually liked DA2, but DAI is a masterpiece IMO.

[Prince Rhaegar]

Hey, have you tried merging mods with mod manager v. 0.53? It's working for me, while I can't merge mods with the new version (56)

 

Thanks for the suggestion Drake, I have tried that, but almost all of the mods I use are configurable, and apparently those are impossible to apply without either 1) failing outright, or 2) causing the game to crash.

[Bryan Johnson]

Ill let Zhentar (the author of mod manager) answer that one for you

 

https://www.reddit.c...e_today/cu0ddx3

[Prince Rhaegar]

Hey, have you tried merging mods with mod manager v. 0.53? It's working for me, while I can't merge mods with the new version (56)

 

Drake, for the heck of it I decided to try your suggestion; v. 0.53 worked very well for me before, and it just created a merged patch for me with no problems.  I'm about to try it, if you happen to catch this keep your fingers crossed for me.

[Prince Rhaegar]

Drake, for the heck of it I decided to try your suggestion; v. 0.53 worked very well for me before, and it just created a merged patch for me with no problems.  I'm about to try it, if you happen to catch this keep your fingers crossed for me.

 

Don't know what happened, the only thing about my game that has changed is that I downloaded and installed Descent today, but I'll be d****d if it's not working perfectly ... it's only been 5 minutes so I'm not getting my hopes up too much yet, but if it keeps up I'll owe you big time Drake.

 

Update:  made it through the prologue, the mods that would have had an effect there worked, about to test the others.

 

2nd Update:  looks like all mods are working, at least all of the ones that I use :-)

[drake2511]

Don't know what happened, the only thing about my game that has changed is that I downloaded and installed Descent today, but I'll be d****d if it's not working perfectly ... it's only been 5 minutes so I'm not getting my hopes up too much yet, but if it keeps up I'll owe you big time Drake.

 

Update:  made it through the prologue, the mods that would have had an effect there worked, about to test the others.

 

2nd Update:  looks like all mods are working, at least all of the ones that I use :-)

 

 

I'm glad to hear it!
If you encounter a problem later on in the DLC and the game crashes before a cutscene, this fix works.

After you do that and the cutscene is over, you can merge your mods again and for the rest of the DLC you should be fine.