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[Ms. Sarsaparilla]

Just curious, saw a thread asking which was better, Witcher 3 or Inquisition, and I could not help but think about what a pointless question it was, it is like asking who is the faster runner? Tiny Tim or a roomba? It just isn't a competition, but it did get me thinking, is there anything Inquisition and the Dragon Age series actually manages to do better than the Dwarf Fortress and Bay 12 Games?

 

I know this is the Dragon Age forums so some responses may be a little biased but I guess the series needs everything it has got going in it's favor to find what the games do well.

 

 

 

Though I wouldn't say the Dragon Age games do this particularly well I will say they do it at least better than Dwarf Fortress, fonts and lettering I guess.

 

 

The things that either game doesn't do that the other does don't really count as there is nothing to compare, of course Inquisition does things like party based combat and character creation systems better because Dwarf Fortress simply doesn't do these things, they are simply not a factor that can be compared.

[Super Drone]

Diversity!

 

In Inquistion you can be different races, genders and orientations. In Dwarf Fortress you are the same genderless, bodiless force micro-managing a bunch of dwarves. Seriously, it's 2015 for pete's sake, and yet we see the exact same types of bodiless, genderless forces in these types of games. StarCraft, Sim-City, all the latest Poker simulators all portray their bodiless, genderless controlling forces the exact same way. What I wouldn't give for a gendered bodiless force, or even a force that has a body. The Games industry needs to seriously take a long hard look at how they choose to portray bodiless, genderless, micro-managing intelligences in future games.

[Ms. Sarsaparilla]

Diversity!

 

In Inquistion you can be different races, genders and orientations. In Dwarf Fortress you are the same genderless, bodiless force micro-managing a bunch of dwarves. Seriously, it's 2015 for pete's sake, and yet we see the exact same types of bodiless, genderless forces in these types of games. StarCraft, Sim-City, all the latest Poker simulators all portray their bodiless, genderless controlling forces the exact same way. What I wouldn't give for a gendered bodiless force, or even a force that has a body. The Games industry needs to seriously take a long hard look at how they choose to portray bodiless, genderless, micro-managing intelligences in future games.

 

Try again. Dwarf Fortress has two genders and five sexual orientations. (Since that seems to be important to Bioware players.) Also, there are over fifty shades of hair color for dwarves alone, while Inquistion has only 25. That is obviously more diversity.

Also, if you had played more great games like Black & White, a game which is over ten years old, you would know that you could have a hand to wave over your game map instead of just a static cursor like Inquisition has. If more people played great games like Black & White we would be able to have a serious conversation, but this is the Bioware forum, what did I expect.

[thats1evildude]

Dragon Age has 100 per cent more nug-related content than Dwarf Fortress.

[llandwynwyn]

But can the dorfs ~romance a giant goat man? I don't think so.

[Super Drone]

Dwarf Fortress has more realistic mining. The Inquisitor just pulling lumps of priceless metals from cliff-faces breaks my immersion.  

[Ms. Sarsaparilla]

Dragon Age has 100 per cent more nug-related content than Dwarf Fortress.

 

That's your opinion, and I respect that, but Olms are still better than bunny-pigs. I personally was annoyed by Leliana's nug and its constant squealing. It never stopped making that sound which was the least erotic noise ever.

 

But can the dorfs ~romance a giant goat man? I don't think so.

 

I already said that things that either game doesn't do that the other does don't really count. Just as obviously you can't compare things like Magma and controllable water (although some of these things do fall under the broad subject of atmosphere which can be compared) from Dwarf Fortress as they simply don't exist in Inquisition.

 

Dwarf Fortress has more realistic mining. The Inquisitor just pulling lumps of priceless metals from cliff-faces breaks my immersion.  

 

This is completely true but I am not interested in hearing how Dwarf Fortress is better, there are just too many examples, like trying to find hay in haystack. Besides, the DA fans are too riled up already.

[Sark]

They could add nugs to Dwarf Fortress if they just tried harder. It would be easy. As a person who knows nothing about game development or programming, I think I can be reasonably sure of that.

[uzivatel]

Dragon Age has 100 per cent more nug-related content than Dwarf Fortress.

The things that either game doesn't do that the other does don't really count as there is nothing to compare, of course Inquisition does things like nugs better because Dwarf Fortress simply doesn't do these things, they are simply not a factor that can be compared just like you can't compare Inquisition's starvation, thirst or magma crab systems (though starvation and thirst these things do fall under the broad subject of atmosphere which can be compared) to the Dwarf Fortress as they simply don't exist in Inquisition.

[Sark]

Also, more awkward sex scenes. Dwarf Fortress needs more awkward sex scenes. I was very disappointed by how much less awkward these were in DAI than DAO.

[The Smiling Bandit]

Well it definitely doesn’t do combat better since, in Dwarf Fortress, I’ve strangled a cyclops to death with its own loincloth and blinded a dragon by throwing I think it was apples at it.

[Lady Ishtar]

Funny topic, except for the fact that it is real, Inquisition is worse than any other game ever produced in every single thing. I bet Inquisition loses even at being itself if we compare it to other games they are probably better at it. So, I don't think we should joke about such a majestic failure, it is cruel.

[thats1evildude]

Funny topic, except for the fact that it is real, Inquisition is worse than any other game ever produced in every single thing. I bet Inquisition loses even at being itself if we compare it to other games they are probably better at it. So, I don't think we should joke about such a majestic failure, it is cruel.

Watch a Let's Play of Ride to Hell: Retribution before you speak such foolish things.

[Ms. Sarsaparilla]

Funny topic, except for the fact that it is real, Inquisition is worse than any other game ever produced in every single thing. I bet Inquisition loses even at being itself if we compare it to other games they are probably better at it. So, I don't think we should joke about such a majestic failure, it is cruel.

 

It's not cruel to ask what's good about a game. I would much rather see the good in a game rather than point out how it fails, that being said I am having trouble doing this which is why I have come here asking for the help of the Dragon Age forum to help me see the good in the games.

[Ms. Sarsaparilla]

Also, more awkward sex scenes. Dwarf Fortress needs more awkward sex scenes. I was very disappointed by how much less awkward these were in DAI than DAO.

 

It's true, all the best things about Dragon Age happened in Origins, like getting the key from the caged prisoner and killing a halla for no reason. There's an example of what real choice and freedom in a game look like. But sadly, Bioware's work has gone downhill since then. I have to ask, do they have any real programmers doing the writing at all?

[Sark]

It's true, all the best things about Dragon Age happened in Origins, like getting the key from the caged prisoner and killing a halla for no reason. There's an example of what real choice and freedom in a game look like. But sadly, Bioware's work has gone downhill since then. I have to ask, do they have any real programmers doing the writing at all?

Ah, the prisoner. I greatly admire his ingenuity in holding on to that key, though retrieving it must have been the most painful crap of his life. Why don't we see characters with that kind of passion anymore?