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[wintermoons]

10 Shrieks + 2 Hurlock Alphas + 2 Genlock Alphas + 2 Ogres + 1 Alpha Emissary, a slew of other lesser darkspawn all the while, and there's only 2 supply caches in the whole room. Darkspawn seemed to be a lot easier to kill when I was a warden.

 

How has everyone else beaten this? I'm level 14 on my dual dagger rouge Inquisitor and my first try at this fight lasted about an hour and a half. I got past the ogres fairly well and then I spent a lot of time during the Alpha Emissary fight running to a point where my party revived themselves to half health. Then I got killed by spiders in a desperate search for a non-existent third supply cache. I'm playing on casual with friendly fire off and I've upgraded my health potions to 12 I'm still finding this totally impossible. 

 

Is my only option really to go back to a non-DLC area and level grind until I gain a few levels? I'd honestly rather not do that seeing as I'm playing with mods and getting mods to work with this DLC has been tricky so far.

[Ashaantha]

Mike Laidlaw already said somewhere on twitter that the DLC is designed to make you come back after a few levels and better gear if you start finding it difficult, each level is mroe challenging then the last are something like that. I couldn't give an approx level, I've only completed it on a lvl 27.

[akabane_k]

If you have around 16k gold, go to black emporium and buy one of those really powerful weapon schematics. I've only done it at 27 as well.

 

I used a lot of elemental mines and leaping shot, and my companions all had guard/barrier on hit.

[Knight of Dane]

I just whirlwinded till they all were dead. Nothin chanllenging really, just HP draining. My PC has top tier armor and weapons wth 5 Guard/hit so nothing fazes him. The rest of my party did ok on its own.

[Gruntburner]

I am playing on Nightmare and that is exactly what that fight is... a nightmare. Seriously, **** that alpha Emissary. And those damn archers. The problem isn't the fact that it is hard, it is the fact that the fight is so damn long that if you are killed by the Alpha emissary, you have to go through a 20 minute fight (with no saves at any point) just to get back to them. There is a difference between being difficult and just being needlessly frustrating.

[robertthebard]

The hardest thing for me was keeping the party focused on the Emissary, when I wanted them focused on it. I did it also at 27, with a dual wield assassin Inquisitor, Cass, Blackwall and Dorian. Other than being really long, I didn't have any problems with it, and I only found one of the supply caches... #learntolookharderforthingsRob...

[iheartbob]

I was breezing through the DLC and having to double check myself to make sure I was playing on Nightmare still ... until that fight.

 

Holy mother of Mary.

 

That Darkspawn Emissary is a mother.

 

It might have helped if I had more weapons equipped to take down barrier, but his regenerative powers don't help either. Not to mention the fact that I had two fire weapons equipped. Yikes.

 

In the end it was Sera's leaping shot that took him down. I had to turn it off after that though because the fight gave me a headache in the end lol

[Zatche]

I didn't have toooo much trouble on Nightmare. But then again, my Champion Inquisitor is pretty indestructible and can take down Ogres quick. And Vivienne is pretty indestructible and can take down Emissaries quick.

...I did end up finally using my Focus abilities, and the fight is pretty long, I would have hated to mess up on the Alpha Emissary and then have to start all over. That's not challenge, it's just annoying.

[Nox_Sanguinis]

May have lucked out really hard, but on my level 14 run through the emissary teleported onto the very edge of one of the bridge and a well placed shield ended the fight extremely quickly.

[Navasha]

I don't really remember a particularly hard fight in Descent.   Yes, I always play on Nightmare, and while I used a mod that reduce my xp gained, I am sure I was over level 24 by the time I would have done Descent.     Since the DLC's will scale up nicely to your level I always put them off until right before the end of the game. 

[Donk]

10 Shrieks + 2 Hurlock Alphas + 2 Genlock Alphas + 2 Ogres + 1 Alpha Emissary, a slew of other lesser darkspawn all the while, and there's only 2 supply caches in the whole room. Darkspawn seemed to be a lot easier to kill when I was a warden.

 

How has everyone else beaten this? I'm level 14 on my dual dagger rouge Inquisitor and my first try at this fight lasted about an hour and a half. I got past the ogres fairly well and then I spent a lot of time during the Alpha Emissary fight running to a point where my party revived themselves to half health. Then I got killed by spiders in a desperate search for a non-existent third supply cache. I'm playing on casual with friendly fire off and I've upgraded my health potions to 12 I'm still finding this totally impossible. 

 

Is my only option really to go back to a non-DLC area and level grind until I gain a few levels? I'd honestly rather not do that seeing as I'm playing with mods and getting mods to work with this DLC has been tricky so far.

 

It's tough. Sadly, the only way I was ever able to beat it was to keep running back until my party came back from the dead. Then try again.. and again.. and again.

[ottffsse]

It is one of the more challenging fights in the game, but you can focus on the "targets" and ignore the rest of the darkspawn as much as possible.

 

are you doing it alone or in a party? as other mentioned good crafting helps, and maybe lvl 17+??? you don"t need to be lvl 27 cap as enemies scale anyway but having a decent set of abilities and good items sure helps.  Bring a good tank cass or blackwall, a mage with dispel  and crowd control and good dps like cole mark of death archer or sera to burst damage that Alpha E. and dispel really helps did  I say that?

 

Just for fun I soloed that fight along with some other tough fights in game. The decent stuff I did without having latest trespasser items like encore schematic/ best schematics and elemental pact belt belt / some other trespasser best in game items yet. I had the BE T3 schematics though like staff of corruption. And yes the shrieks can kill you quickly if you don't freeze or lightning cage cc them. 

 

[Dieb]

How has everyone else beaten this?

 

[Al Foley]

 

(on normal)

[Cobra's_back]

Upgrade your potions and remember some enemies are immune to fire in this location. I had no problem with a tempest rogue, ice lightning KE, Varric and Cass. I got through pretty easily.

[Cobra's_back]

I don't really remember a particularly hard fight in Descent.   Yes, I always play on Nightmare, and while I used a mod that reduce my xp gained, I am sure I was over level 24 by the time I would have done Descent.     Since the DLC's will scale up nicely to your level I always put them off until right before the end of the game. 

That is the best advice because the main story didn't level up with the character. Doing the DLCs first put your character at a much higher level than the final battle. Does your mod work with Black emporium? I was afraid to use the mods in Nexus for fear of crashing the game. I played the game a few times, and I'm interested in some of the mods.

[Evamitchelle]

That is the best advice because the main story didn't level up with the character. Doing the DLCs first put your character at a much higher level than the final battle. Does your mod work with Black emporium? I was afraid to use the mods in Nexus for fear of crashing the game. I played the game a few times, and I'm interested in some of the mods.

 

If you have Trespasser you can turn on Take It Slow to halve the XP you gain. As for mods, I think it's mostly texture mods (hair/face/tattoos etc.) that make the Black Emporium crash. Hair doesn't show up either. 

[Donk]

 

[Serza]

Ah, yes, "Impossible"...

 

We have dismissed those claims.

 

On Nightmare.

[Dai Grepher]

I beat it on Nightmare at level 27 with a Rift Mage Inquisitor, Cassandra, Dorian, and Cole. It's just a lot of micro managing. Static Cage, Veilstrike, Winter's Grasp, Horn of Valor, Hidden Blades, Mark of Death, etc.

 

The only thing I was worried about was the game crashing before it was over. It didn't crash on me, thankfully.

 

Also, there is a supply chest hidden on the ledge to the far right of the bridge leading to the last rooms. You need to jump across a gap near the gear door in order to get to it. I didn't need it though.

[Phoenix_Also_Rises]

Yeah I got my ass handed to me my first try too. As others have pointed out, using gear that does guard on hit and/or heal on kill should make it much easier.

[Forsythia77]

I've done it three times.  Once on nightmare, once on hard and once on normal.  Obvi the nightmare was the hardest (also was the first time I did it).  However, the nightmare and hard PTs were all post vanilla game, the normal run I just did I did before beating Cory.  But for all three I was at level 27. Are you wearing Tier 3 armor and using Tier 3 weapons?  You should be.  The stuff you can find in the deep roads is alright, but there are better schematics out there.  You can just travel back up to the base camp and buy T3 materials and craft rather than outright leaving.  You might try to go after each enemy one at a time.  So have everyone attack the same ogre, the same emissary , the same genlock etc so as to knock them out faster, rather than attacking random enemies piecemeal.  I suggest taking out the ogres then going after the emissaries. But that's just me.    I like like using the storm skill tree to incapacitate multiple enemies if I can.

[Ieldra]

I just set the difficulty to Casual when I did this. Maybe I could've done it at a higher difficulty - I was level 25 or something, and I had good equipment - but I was already frustrated by the insane amount of hp of the enemies here which made the fights a slog. I had enough.

[MrMrPendragon]

Got a good bow and used leaping shot on their backs while having that one dual dagger passive that gives 100% crit chance for flanking attacks. Leaping shot had no cooldown because I always hit my crits

[leaguer of one]

Has anyone beat it post trespasser?