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[HallaGoddess]

This has been bothering me for some time now- how often do people bathe in Thedas?

I mean proper bathing: with soap.

I just think about all the places my character has travelled to- the build up of sweat, blood and other distasteful things- and then doing the frickle with my character's LI?! Like ew, toxic genitalia! ;~;

I intentionally flap around in the hot springs in Emprise Du Lion just so I'll feel better about my dalish elf being shoeless...

 

Sorry for the weird post but I just want someone to reassure me that the people of Thedas aren't smelly dirty people...

 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The Inquisitor opens a Fade Rift, goes to the Fade physically and bathes there with spirits.

[HallaGoddess]

The Inquisitor opens a Fade Rift, goes to the Fade physically and bathes there with spirits.

 Fade water is kinda nasty though, it's all blackish green D:

[Bayonet Hipshot]

 Fade water is kinda nasty though, it's all blackish green D:

 

The Inquisitor is a special snowflake. If you notice the Inquisitor always seems to be shiny. Where did you think the shine came from ?

 

As for the others, well Dwarves bathe in ale and use nugs as soap. Elves bathe in the river and use leaves as soap. Qunari use vitaar to bathe, because they can. Humans...I don't know, maybe they don't bathe ?

[HallaGoddess]

The Inquisitor is a special snowflake. If you notice the Inquisitor always seems to be shiny. Where did you think the shine came from ?

 

As for the others, well Dwarves bathe in ale and use nugs as soap. Elves bathe in the river and use leaves as soap. Qunari use vitaar to bathe, because they can. Humans...I don't know, maybe they don't bathe ?

 

ahha that's so gross >w<

the best one out of all the races would be elves then xD

[Shienis]

You can't compare hygiene standards of a world based on medieval theme with the standards of current modern culture. If you do, you will be disappointed. They were smelly dirty people back then... (that's why perfumes were created after all)

 

But hey, since the game doesn't state anything about this issue (except some party banter with Vivienne), you can imagine they have some hot springs on Skyhold.  

[YourFunnyUncle]

Well it's loosely based on medieval Europe, and people sure as hell didn't bathe regularly then, although other contemporary civilisations like the Aztecs were much cleaner, with running water in their cities. Maybe that's why Sten doesn't like the smell in Ferelden...

[HallaGoddess]

You can't compare hygiene standards of a world based on medieval theme with the standards of current modern culture. If you do, you will be disappointed. They were smelly dirty people back then... (that's why perfumes were created after all)

 

I suppose if everyone's toxic and stinky, it doesn't really matter ;~; 

It kinda pains me to think that all my fave companions must smell atrocious D:

[Ashaantha]

I actually wondered it a bit, but there's bathtubs you can see in Skyhold. Honestly they are in weird places, so bathing would happen. I highly doubt they bathe while running around the wilderness fighting etc, but would likely enjoy a long soak back at Skyhold. But as others said, it has to be compared to a different time and place, imagine more Roman Empire period of time since the Imperium did build aqueducts and bath houses etc. No proper running water but water is available for that stuff.

[HallaGoddess]

I actually wondered it a bit, but there's bathtubs you can see in Skyhold. Honestly they are in weird places, so bathing would happen. I highly doubt they bathe while running around the wilderness fighting etc, but would likely enjoy a long soak back at Skyhold. But as others said, it has to be compared to a different time and place, imagine more Roman Empire period of time since the Imperium did build aqueducts and bath houses etc. No proper running water but water is available for that stuff.

 

oooh really?? could you tell me where so I can hover around it?? (the bathtubs)

and this sounds so nice, it makes me feel less dirty xD

Modifié par HallaGoddess, 12 août 2015 - 02:47 .

[Ashaantha]

oooh really?? could you tell me where so I can hover around it?? 

 

there's a bathtub in Josephine's office, only one I actually remember sorry. not sure how far through the Skyhold rebuilding stuff you need to get.

Just.. I dunno, shout at her to leave the room for a moment? lol

 

(edit: closest thing to a bathtub I've seen in game anyway)

[Charoleia]

Well, Morrigan and Wynne complained more than once about smelly Alistair, to whom hygiene meant :  "dry filthy socks" are better than "damp filthy socks". And I romanced him all the time... 

 

I assume most of Thedas common people don't bathe regularly honestly.

I assume people like Josephine and Vivienne pay much more attention to hygiene. Leliana too (a smelly bard ? don't think so ^^).

Dorian too of course. He looks like he smells really good

Oh, and Varric. I am sure he combs his chest hair 

[The Oracle]

You can ask Josie if she'll get you a long bath after you've just found Skyhold. As it is, lots of civilisations have different etiquette when it comes to bathing, cleanliness. The Vikings, for instance, we're all about looking after themselves, especially before battle. They washed almost everyday, especially on a Saturday, spent time on their hair and grooming, regularly cleaned and changed their clothes etc. It was also recorded that they washed their hands before eating and had oral hygiene which exceeds many even today. In the middle east, especially with Muslims, bathing in running water and cleaning oneself is both a religious and personal routine which is strictly kept to.

 

Going from in game, I don't think personal hygiene follows the same route of European Middle Ages. Bathing is mentioned often (mainly around Blackwall, even Cole gets in on him not brushing his hair.) and you come across the odd large copper bathtub where you go. I imagine that out and about, our characters would take time to wash off blood etc in nearby streams and will probably give themselves a once over before they settle down for the night, even if it's with cold water.

 

Actually, I'd say that our western culture has an almost unhealthy obsession with bathing and cleaning. I know people who work light office jobs and shower twice a day. And if you think BO is bad, having to sit next to someone on the bus who has literally doused themselves in perfume and cologne is almost worse. Things like shampoo and conditioner only really came around in the early 20th century, mainly because hair naturally regulates it's oil production and so "greasy" hair was rare and usually linked to a medical condition. Our hair tends to produce more oil now because we strip down our scalp with detergents and then put "other" oils back onto it via conditioner.

 

Anyway, enough ranting from me. The subject of personal hygiene over the ages is a very interesting one.

[SomberXIII]

There should be bathing scenes like those from Quantic Dream's games (Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls). Nose bleeds.  

 

Imagine bathing.... 

[Dai Grepher]

Origins shows stone baths in certain places like Redcliffe and Highever. Even Fort Drakon has them. Other than that, it's wooden washtubs and sponges probably.

 

The real question is what people do about their dental hygiene. Sera mentions "morning mouth" but not what can be done about it.

[Illegitimus]

This has been bothering me for some time now- how often do people bathe in Thedas?

I mean proper bathing: with soap.

I just think about all the places my character has travelled to- the build up of sweat, blood and other distasteful things- and then doing the frickle with my character's LI?! Like ew, toxic genitalia! ;~;

I intentionally flap around in the hot springs in Emprise Du Lion just so I'll feel better about my dalish elf being shoeless...

 

Sorry for the weird post but I just want someone to reassure me that the people of Thedas aren't smelly dirty people...

 

The upper class probably bathe quite frequently.  Enchantment means that making a water heater is expensive but well within their technical capability.  Of course when you're out in the field,not so practical.  

[Korva]

I kind of wanted the Fereldans -- and/or related "barbarian tribes" -- to have sauna, and was disappointed that there was no mention of such a thing and that they were considered "dirty" by some instead, though that may just be a snobbish prejudice, exceptions like Alistair aside.

 

Without any obvious signs of a particular body-shame-attitude that I recall, and in the light of the obvious benefits of hygiene, I second the notion of not drawing too many parallels between Medieval Central Europe. Dorian explicitly mentions the existence of public baths in Tevinter, which fits its pseudo-Roman nature. Such institutions would have been spread to every corner of the old Imperium in its heyday, though maybe they fell out of favor after its fall along with other things too heavily associated with the oppressors.

 

Bathing is mentioned often (mainly around Blackwall, even Cole gets in on him not brushing his hair.)

 

That banter cracked me up, especially coming from the scraggly fellow whose hair is always half-obscuring his face.

[Deztyn]

Well, Morrigan and Wynne complained more than once about smelly Alistair, to whom hygiene meant : "dry filthy socks" are better than "damp filthy socks". And I romanced him all the time...

I assume most of Thedas common people don't bathe regularly honestly.
I assume people like Josephine and Vivienne pay much more attention to hygiene. Leliana too (a smelly bard ? don't think so ^^).
Dorian too of course. He looks like he smells really good
Oh, and Varric. I am sure he combs his chest hair

Hey, Alistair ran around in plate hitting things with manly swords and shields while Wynne and Morrigan just had to stand there and wave their sticks around.

Also, they probably smelled too.

Just less.

Edit: I'm pretty sure Dragon Age was originally supposed to have a middle ages approach to hygiene. But then whiter teeth was like first mod created with the toolset and they didn't bother in DA2.

[Shienis]

Well it's loosely based on medieval Europe, and people sure as hell didn't bathe regularly then, although other contemporary civilisations like the Aztecs were much cleaner, with running water in their cities. Maybe that's why Sten doesn't like the smell in Ferelden...

 

Without any obvious signs of a particular body-shame-attitude that I recall, and in the light of the obvious benefits of hygiene, I second the notion of not drawing too many parallels between Medieval Central Europe. Dorian explicitly mentions the existence of public baths in Tevinter, which fits its pseudo-Roman nature. Such institutions would have been spread to every corner of the old Imperium in its heyday, though maybe they fell out of favor after its fall along with other things too heavily associated with the oppressors.

 

It's the weather. If you live somewhere with temperature is between 0~15 °C during most of the year (Ferelden, Vikings), the first thing you care about is how to survive the cold. Some hygiene comes when you advance in technology enough to survive the cold with relative ease. The people in warmer climates (Mesoamerica, Mediterranean, Tevinter, Par Vollen) don't need that much work to keep themselves warm, so they pay attention to the smell more.

[thats1evildude]

I imagine it varies from place to place. Tevinter, for instance, has public baths and the like, so I imagine cleanliness is a big thing there.

 

Just keep in mind that this is a quasi-medieval setting. Just be glad they have all their teeth.

[The Hierophant]

IIRC the excess copies of Anders' manifesto were put to use at the public latrines.

[myahele]

I do remember in DAO Mage circles had bath tubs, so they bathe regularly there and most likely Nobles, too.

 

The Common Ferelden I guess bath when they can, though might not be enough for somebody like Dorian.

 

I imagine Tevinter, with its old infrastructure, magic and ties with Dwarves, they probably have plenty of bathing facilities, followed by the Free Marches.

[Master Warder Z_]

IIRC the excess copies of Anders' manifesto were put to use at the public latrines.

Suitable use of them

[Gilli]

The Dwarves in the Deep Roads have enchanted basins which fill with magical water when touched.

Source The Calling, where Maric & Fiona use one to wash themselves.

[Joe25]

Well, like most places without running water you need a water source a river, lake or a well, some soap, a bucket, and a rag. If there is a tub the family washes youngest child to oldest, then mother, and father last all in the same water. It would suck having to bathe in the low town of a inland city where water is limited.