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INVADERONE

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Lately I see quite a few PVP suggestions for the next MP. It's not a lot but it comes up here and there. A lot of times I get the sense that the person who recommends PVP doesn't really know this game very well or how OP it would be if MP was PVP or if the next game, Andromeda should have it.

 

I am sure anything's possible in the code world with enough creativity, time, money, and coffee but PVP would still be a major undertaking to make it feasible in regards to character powers, balance and gameplay... I think it would be quite a feat. 

 

So... 

1. Do you want PVP in MP and why? and/or Why not?

2. Do you think those that suggest they want PVP have really played this game enough or understand it enough?

 

I am curious since I thought that most that suggest PVP don't really play this game often or understand the mechanics that would make PVP really difficult but then the other night I heard this request from another gamer who is quite knowledgeable of this game and plays it often. I personally don't want PVP but that's just me. 



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I won't be playing any form of PvP.  Co-op is where it's at.  That is all.


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I'm not opposed to the idea of PvP in ME:A, but implementing it with any semblance of balance would be quite a feat, and even if successful, would incur so much whining as to not be worth attempting.


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^ True BSN babies already whine about multiplayer and its guns and stuff (acolyte included) Cough cough

 

that making a PVP mode will be highly impossible as it won't ever satisfy the hunger of BSN babies

as there will always be a character or gun that will be superior or crazy game mechanics that will get nerfed or readjusted  



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Prefer co-op.

A-bombs and the reactor are enough for me.
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I am in no way in favor of PVP, not in this game, with this format. There is way to much variation in health, skills, powers, guns, attributes, etc. Besides, it's a helluva nice change of pace from traditional PVP powerhouses *cough*COD*cough* and the absolute stupidity that goes along with them. I love this game and the format, and I truly hope ME:A keeps the same.

 

TL;DR - **** PVP


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Asari Goddess

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Prefer co-op.

A-bombs and the reactor are enough for me.

 

Yeah i see mass effect more of a team work type of game not a every one for them selves type of game. Like PVP wont work at all and if it did i know i would be throwing hell of a-bombs at people lol


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The wide variety of content and powers in this game is what makes it entertaining. If there was PvP, much of that would be sacrificed in search of game balance. It would completely change the way the game is played and limit options.

 

I'm not a fan of this idea


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GruntKitterhand

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^ True BSN babies already whine about multiplayer and its guns and stuff (acolyte included) Cough cough

 

that making a PVP mode will be highly impossible as it won't ever satisfy the hunger of BSN babies

as there will always be a character or gun that will be superior or crazy game mechanics that will get nerfed or readjusted  

 

I know you were responding to what SMR said, but I just want to expand slightly on my reasons for not wanting PvP, as they have nothing to do with balance or game mechanics.  

 

The fact is I've never wanted to shoot a real person in the face, and by extension I have no desire to shoot a real person's virtual avatar in the face either.  It really is that simple.  I will forcefully headbutt you between waves and I might occasionally teabag the odd corpse, or lash an A-bomb somewhere 'helpful', but that's as far as I want to go.  With presumably limited resources, further enhancement of co-op gameplay should be much higher on the priority list than bringing in an entirely new mode.


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I am in no way in favor of PVP, not in this game, with this format. There is way to much variation in health, skills, powers, guns, attributes, etc. Besides, it's a helluva nice change of pace from traditional PVP powerhouses *cough*COD*cough* and the absolute stupidity that goes along with them. I love this game and the format, and I truly hope ME:A keeps the same.

 

lol Imagine that AIU or the geth juggernaut was on PVP. That would be just crazy, it would never work or even the adepts with there biotic explosions and vanguards biotic charging you every where. MHM not a good idea 


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Do not want.

 

One thing that makes this community so great is its co-op nature. PvP will just attract unpleasant tryhards.


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I play this game only due to that it's 100% co-op (there are tons of other games focusing on PVP).

 

Being co-op is sort of the niche of MEMP. Going into PVP would add an enormous challange the developer didn't need to deal with Before : Balancing weapons and Powers also for PVP, which is totally different from balancing from a PVE perspective.

 

I spent 4 years playing WoW, I remember Blizzard (guess they still do) constantly balancing the game for PVP - Powers that were not to OP for PVE were very strong in a PVP Environment, and the butt hurt complaints on the forums were increadible.

 

If there is to be PVP, I'd suggest that it would be 100% separated from the co-op part with a separate PVP manifest etc.  


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Asari Goddess

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Do not want.

 

One thing that makes this community so great is its co-op nature. PvP will just attract unpleasant tryhards.

 

LOL its not like we don't already have tryhards in this community. lol im not saying any names. :P



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I won't be playing any form of PvP.  Co-op is where it's at.  That is all.

This.



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I won't be playing any form of PvP.  Co-op is where it's at.  That is all.

This 100 times over.
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Do not want.

 

One thing that makes this community so great is its co-op nature. PvP will just attract unpleasant tryhards.

 

PvP probably wouldn't be as popular as co-op in the first place.


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I know you were responding to what SMR said, but I just want to expand slightly on my reasons for not wanting PvP, as they have nothing to do with balance or game mechanics.  

 

The fact is I've never wanted to shoot a real person in the face, and by extension I have no desire to shoot a real person's virtual avatar in the face either.  It really is that simple.  I will forcefully headbutt you between waves and I might occasionally teabag the odd corpse, or lash an A-bomb somewhere 'helpful', but that's as far as I want to go.  With presumably limited resources, further enhancement of co-op gameplay should be much higher on the priority list than bringing in an entirely new mode.

 

Well ok Gandhi, go headbutt every one

 

I would be there setting people on fire with my incendiary rounds and watch them burn in to a human toaster waffle. :P



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PvP probably wouldn't be as popular as co-op in the first place.

 

PVP on ME:A should be non existing i rather play campaign mode or pass mission with a group of friends then try to kill them tbh :P

 

 

 

but killing them with a-bomb wont hurt  :whistle:  :whistle:  :whistle:



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The wide variety of content and powers in this game is what makes it entertaining. If there was PvP, much of that would be sacrificed in search of game balance. It would completely change the way the game is played and limit options.

 

I'm not a fan of this idea

Exactly this.



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I'm OK with having PvP in principle, as long as there is a co-op game also (my preference).  My only problem with PvP is that it just really wouldn't work well with ME3's setup.  Too many powers would have to be removed and/or nerfed, and too many things would have to be changed, in order to make PvP enjoyable.  Stasis would have to revert to ME1 form (can't damage anything in stasis) or be removed entirely.  Wallhax would have to be eliminated, or Slash/Smash spammers and Javelin snipers with 5m penetration would be pretty much unbeatable.  Many grenades (especially Arcs and Clusters) would need to be eliminated.  

 

I guess you could revert the combat system overall to something more like ME1 or ME2, and it would probably work OK for PvP.



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If we want pvp we can get it from any number of different games. PvE is what makes ME3mp unique and as such, infinitely more entertaining than all the pvp games out there. To me, you'd be taking away one of the things that makes it attractive in an attempt to perfect what is already perfect. 


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Co-op games also have more hot chicks in them


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I do not wish them to waste resources on PVP, plenty of alternatives for that. PVE is what makes this game great and they can just add more CP, N7 or whatever points/banners/accomplishments to satisfy the "my e-peen/e-boob is bigger then yours" crowd


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Co-op games also have more hot chicks in them

 

True statement  :whistle:



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LOL its not like we don't already have tryhards in this community. lol im not saying any names. :P

 

Just imagine it 1000% worse.


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