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[Shinobu]

I kinda sorta want to join in with this, but I'm not the strongest of players (I am perfectly capable of failing to carry Silver if the other players are struggling) so might be of limited use.  Perhaps I could play with people who would like to play the lower difficulties but have been put off multiplayer for whatever reason; show people that they don't need to be elite to enjoy multiplayer, it can be fun for casual gamers too?

 

Thank you, you are perfect! I think having players who want to host Bronze and Silver games is especially important for those people who are just starting because then they won't feel self-conscious or intimidated. If all we had were Spectres it might seem too "hardcore" for those who are hesitant. MP is for everybody. If you're worried about having to clutch you can run a lobby with a friend (or me) and that way know you'll have at least another experienced player to help.

[stephenw32768]

Thank you, you are perfect! I think having players who want to host Bronze and Silver games is especially important for those people who are just starting because then they won't feel self-conscious or intimidated. If all we had were Spectres it might seem too "hardcore" for those who are hesitant. MP is for everybody. If you're worried about having to clutch you can run a lobby with a friend (or me) and that way know you'll have at least another experienced player to help.

 

I can clutch if I'm playing a character I'm very comfortable with, my wipes tend to happen if I'm doing weapon challenges with something I'm not especially confident with, or if I get Banshee'd and the other players can't carry the wave.

 

I was wondering about hosting some Silvers and demonstrating play using only common/uncommon characters, weapons and mods; and level 1 consumables.  That gives the newbies an example of something they could play too; and means I can play with a character like TSent with Phaeston or QFI with Raptor, both of which I feel confident of carrying a game with (and have done in the past).

 

I do play Gold with BSNers, but certainly can't carry it, so would be the wrong person to host such a game.

[akots1]

... I have to say, I've always been intimidated to try the themed challenges in Prestacious' thread, so I wonder if newbies would feel the same if they thought doing themes is mandatory to participate? I thought about what would entice me to try MP if I were a newbie and I came up with:

 

1) Fun/Intro -- do whatever in a supportive, safe environment

2) New experiences/tourism -- get locked in the reactor, see collectors, find the easter eggs on Vancouver, play as a nonhuman, etc.

3) Upping my game/weapon workshop -- get advice from experienced players on how to play certain weapons/kits, get to play with BSNers, try a higher level of difficulty

4) Themes/challenges -- get that sense of accomplishment

5) Geek out -- discuss lore with other fans

What do you think?

 

IMHO strictly, the SP only people are shy to try mutiplayer because they don't feel confident in how they will do it in real time without an ability to pause. Some may be older, some just don't like combat at all, and most of them don't have any real time multiplayer experience or have really bad abusive experience. Some secretly tried and some wanted to play gold or platinum right off the start and got kicked or died and that might have been great discouragement for them. Others might have just plain bad internet connection. So, something inspirational can be added to the list as well. Inspiration is different for different people. What worked for me might not work for the others. But there are some ... things here on the forum that are universal. I'm talking mostly with regard to those who have strong doubt about their real time abilities and who are new to rather unforgiving game play. Well, this one is outstanding http://forum.bioware...n-accomplished/and still makes me shiver. Link to video https://www.youtube....h?v=4JXteqgFVns If this does not work, I really don't know what will.

 

I'd say number 3 on the list is the most appealing but carrying should be done carefully. IMO, let them die a couple of times and let them kill a few enemies themselves to have a real feel. Just running and nuking spawns might give a wrong impression.

 

On the other hand, any fan of ME must try playing as krogan, drell, asari, vorcha, geth, turian, collector, EDI, volus or quarian (essentially number 2). It is unique experience available only in multiplayer and the most attractive part of it. They do have to unlock these characters first and it might need to put some hours in the game to get going. So, I'd say number 3 is still a mandatory part.
 

I'm sort of impartial about themes/challenges (number 4) and IMHO, number 1 might be somewhat redundant for some as there is more freedom to enjoy scenery in single player.

 

Also, but only for PC, there is modding and me3tweaks, and this is huge. Some SP people might like it a lot. I'm talking mostly about different types of game play. For example, typical horde unmodded setup might be not very attractive for some people. But they might like grenade capacity, low gravity, or zombie mods, or some other mods out there.

[Shinobu]

I can clutch if I'm playing a character I'm very comfortable with, my wipes tend to happen if I'm doing weapon challenges with something I'm not especially confident with, or if I get Banshee'd and the other players can't carry the wave.

 

I was wondering about hosting some Silvers and demonstrating play using only common/uncommon characters, weapons and mods; and level 1 consumables.  That gives the newbies an example of something they could play too; and means I can play with a character like TSent with Phaeston or QFI with Raptor, both of which I feel confident of carrying a game with (and have done in the past).

 

I do play Gold with BSNers, but certainly can't carry it, so would be the wrong person to host such a game.

 

That sounds perfect! I salute you for using the Raptor, because that thing gives me a huge pain in the wrist!

[Shinobu]

IMHO strictly, the SP only people are shy to try mutiplayer because they don't feel confident in how they will do it in real time without an ability to pause. Some may be older, some just don't like combat at all, and most of them don't have any real time multiplayer experience or have really bad abusive experience. Some secretly tried and some wanted to play gold or platinum right off the start and got kicked or died and that might have been great discouragement for them. Others might have just plain bad internet connection. So, something inspirational can be added to the list as well. Inspiration is different for different people. What worked for me might not work for the others. But there are some ... things here on the forum that are universal. I'm talking mostly with regard to those who have strong doubt about their real time abilities and who are new to rather unforgiving game play. Well, this one is outstanding http://forum.bioware...n-accomplished/and still makes me shiver. Link to video https://www.youtube....h?v=4JXteqgFVns If this does not work, I really don't know what will.

 

I'd say number 3 on the list is the most appealing but carrying should be done carefully. IMO, let them die a couple of times and let them kill a few enemies themselves to have a real feel. Just running and nuking spawns might give a wrong impression.

 

On the other hand, any fan of ME must try playing as krogan, drell, asari, vorcha, geth, turian, collector, EDI, volus or quarian (essentially number 2). It is unique experience available only in multiplayer and the most attractive part of it. They do have to unlock these characters first and it might need to put some hours in the game to get going. So, I'd say number 3 is still a mandatory part.
 

I'm sort of impartial about themes/challenges (number 4) and IMHO, number 1 might be somewhat redundant for some as there is more freedom to enjoy scenery in single player.

 

Also, but only for PC, there is modding and me3tweaks, and this is huge. Some SP people might like it a lot. I'm talking mostly about different types of game play. For example, typical horde unmodded setup might be not very attractive for some people. But they might like grenade capacity, low gravity, or zombie mods, or some other mods out there.

 

Yes, my first few times I kept hitting the shift key and dying because I basically paused the game every two seconds when I played SP. Also the limited FOV is disorienting. Everything you said in your first few sentences applied in my case exactly except I didn't try higher difficulties, I tried soloing bronze because I thought my skills were too poor to inflict on others. That didn't work out so well.

 

Thanks for sharing the solo video. MOI123 was a huge inspiration to me -- he gave me the determination to solo gold because he never gave up, so how could I do any less?

 

I hesitate to openly offer modded games, because while Bioware has turned a blind eye unofficially if we are too noticeable there is the slight possibility they could still ban people. Although now that I think about it this won't be any more out there than mgamerz thread. I guess I just don't want to be the catalyst for someone else getting into trouble.

[akots1]

Bump for Labor Day weekend.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Why are we still negotiating with the terrorists?  Has anyone watched Narcos yet?  you see how that turned out.....

[Shinobu]

Oh, should we not wait until N7 week? Or maybe hold it the first week of Sept, October and November? I'm too indecisive....

[prinsesbubblegum]

Oh, should we not wait until N7 week? Or maybe hold it the first week of Sept, October and November? I'm too indecisive....

 

You are the brains of the operation. Just set a date and we'll join you.

[stephenw32768]

I'd been assuming N7 week, but if people want to play sooner, that's cool too.

[Catastrophy]

Oh, should we not wait until N7 week? Or maybe hold it the first week of Sept, October and November? I'm too indecisive....

Geez, I've been using Eviscerators, Disciples and Scimitars for weeks now. Even the Raptor!

[stephenw32768]

I did Shinobu's "survey", feel free to pass this along to people with PS3s who would like to try multiplayer.

 

Platform: PS3
PSN: stephenw32768, same as on the forum.  Send me a PM here or an FR on the PS3 if you'd like to play.
Time zone: British; GMT/BST.  I generally play on Friday evenings and at weekends.
Mic: not usually, but available; just ask me if you'd like me to use it.
Difficulties:
Bronze: I will play Bronze with beginners or people who don't enjoy the other levels.  I will play vanilla human characters using common weapons and mods.
Silver: I will play using uncommon characters, weapons and mods.
Gold: I am not good enough to carry this level but can join in to make up the numbers if there is a strong BSNer leading the team.
Game types: fun, themes, geekiness
# times played: ME1: 1, ME2: 1, ME3: 1
My Shepard is a: female, paragon Sentinel
Favourite characters: Tali, Garrus.  (No love interest; there's a war on, you know!)
About me: I'm a casual gamer guy in my late thirties.  I usually play single-player story-driven games and got into ME3MP just to get some galactic readiness points for the best endings.  It turned out to be really fun, so I stuck around.
Claim to infamy: missing targets with Cobra missiles on a fairly regular basis

[Shinobu]

*snip*

My Shepard is a: female, paragon Sentinel
 

 

I like this, and not just because my Shepard is also a female parag(ade) sentinel! I've gone back to edit mine.

 

I seem to have missed the boat on September. I will be back in October, though.

[stephenw32768]

I like this, and not just because my Shepard is also a female parag(ade) sentinel!

 

Heh, mine is such a paragon that if her Reaper-fighting career hadn't worked out, she could have perhaps become a nun

 

I wondered about adding a "preferred ending" item to the survey, but thought better of it.  Reopening that particular controversy is perhaps not the best way of reaching out to SP players!

[Shinobu]

Heh, mine is such a paragon that if her Reaper-fighting career hadn't worked out, she could have perhaps become a nun

 

I wondered about adding a "preferred ending" item to the survey, but thought better of it.  Reopening that particular controversy is perhaps not the best way of reaching out to SP players!

 

I like your Shepard! I also considered adding the ending choice question but thought the thread would derail almost instantly. There's a pretty high likelihood of derailment anyway, and that would just be too much troll bait to resist.   

[Ashevajak]

Platform: PC
Origin ID: Ashevajak
Time zone: GMT though actual time online can vary due to shift work
Mic: yes, but not always plugged in
Difficulties:  Any up to Gold.  May use crutch classes on Gold depending on team composition/experience, but otherwise I'm perfectly happy with vanilla/uncommon tier characters and weapons.
Game types: Unknown/Unknown adventures, themed games.

# times played: ME1: 5, ME2: 6, ME3: 5
My Shepard is a: female, renegade infiltrator
Favourite characters: Wrex, Garrus.
About me: guy in my late 20s.  Not really done any MP before ME3.   Got into the ME series while waiting for Bioware to make more Dragon Age games.
Claim to infamy: consistently failing on Wave 9/10 of every Platinum solo attempt I make.

[Mordokai]

I seem to have missed the boat on September. I will be back in October, though.

 

Well, that should give me the chance to join as well, which ain't bad

 

Platform: PS3
PSN: JohannAnderson
Time zone: GMT+1. My interest in the game is slowly waning, but I still play a game or two almost every day, more on Friday and weekend.
Mic: No.
Difficulties: I will play Bronze if the wish for it is expressed, but, without false humbleness, I've gotten so good at the game it's no longer a challenge for me. I'd prefer Silver, which I can carry with pretty much any character or Gold, which I can play pretty well by now. Probably not carry the entire game by myself, but if we work as team, it should be totally doable.
Game types: fun, themes, geekiness
# times played: ME1: 5, ME2: about... 9, I think, ME3: 6
My Shepard is a: female, renegon, engineer
Favourite characters: Liara, Garrus, Miranda
About me: not much to say, really. I play games for fun and try not to get serious about it. Fail often, but as Samuel Beckett said, ever tried...
Claim to infamy: hmmm... I guess firing a Cobra missile at two Atlases, smoking a turret that stood between them but not the single Atlas counts.

[kajtarp]

btw, can anyone tell me whats the starting gear of beginners? do they have any? or the only thing they can start with are the vanilla human characters and the common weapons? unfortunately i can't remember.

[Alfonsedode]

I ll steal ashevajak form

Platform: PC
Origin ID: alfonsedode
Time zone: GMT+2
Mic: yes, but not always plugged in
Difficulties:  Any.  Might not want to spent to much time on bronze though, but who knows
Game types:

# times played: ME1: 5, ME2: 10, ME3: 3
My Shepard is a: no pref except vanguard !
Favourite characters: mirandass
About me: guy in my late 30s.  Not done any MP before ME3.   Got into the ME series while needing to play some stuff like kotor.
 

but time slot wld have to be established and are not guaranteed unless validated by my 8 months boy

[The NightMan Cometh]

Leave the SP players to themselves...they cannot get over the ending..so why bring them into our world?...I have gone over to those forums...they have sent suicide bombers into our midst...and how do we respond..with an out-reached hand?....NOPE...just NOPE... 99% of the single player campaigners..cannot even handle Insanity = Silver....and we want to add them to our rosters when we are already dealing with PUGS on Gold that cant even handle bronze..?????????????///

[Catastrophy]

Leave the sad SP players to themselves...they cannot get over themselves..or the ending..so why bring them into our world?...I have gone over to those forums..tried posting my pinions..guess what..they dont care bout our pinions on anything..they have sent suicide bombers into our midst...and how do we respond..with an out-reached hand?....NOPE...just NOPE... 99% of the single player campaigners..cannot even handle Insanity = Silver....and we want to add them to our rosters when we are already dealing with PUGS on Gold that cant even handle bronze..?????????????///

A good MP game needs a solid playerbase. The more people know about potential fun to be had the better for me, because I can find lobbies easily then.

[Alfonsedode]

A good MP game needs a solid playerbase. The more people know about potential fun to be had the better for me, because I can find lobbies easily then.

u allready can find lobby easily... Sharing maybe ?

[Catastrophy]

u allready can find lobby easily... Sharing maybe ?

I want to bring the love of the Asari Justicar to all those who deny MP currently.

[Alfonsedode]

I want to bring the love of the Asari Justicar to all those who deny MP currently.

Much better

[stephenw32768]

99% of the single player campaigners..cannot even handle Insanity = Silver....and we want to add them to our rosters when we are already dealing with PUGS on Gold that cant even handle bronze..?????????????///

 

Yowch.

I played the single-player campaign on Normal mode and found it difficult in places.  Heck, in ME1, I kicked it down to Casual when I got stuck.  Playing SP on Insanity would have been utterly out of my reach.  So should I not have started playing multiplayer?

Your remark implies that multiplayer is only for those for whom SP is a walk in the park.  I couldn't disagree more.  I'm with Shinobu, who upthread stated that MP is for everybody.  This is why there is more than one difficulty level.

Fear not, we are not looking to clog up your Gold lobbies with new players who aren't confident in Bronze yet.  We're going to start new players in Bronze or Silver and let them rise up to a level at which they're comfortable.  For some players, Bronze will be that level, and that's absolutely fine.  MP is for everybody.