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[Beren Von Ostwick]

Yes, that is Cassie. She tells you about it if you take the reaver specialization.

[guntar74]

If any of you have played biowares the old republic its quite obvious....its Kephess and his trandoshian army!!

[myahele]

I wonder if the Forgotten War was due to Dwarves - in their attempt to bolster their fledgeling relationship with Tevinter- attacked the Lizard People and their settlements; similar to how Kal Sharok massavard Cad-Halash Thaig due to them helping Elvhen refugees.

 

Everything going on in Inquisition is just like what was predicted might happen (which I think happened 1000 years ago too and is repeating) when The Maker returns down to Titans and ancients awakening from their rest. One even talks about men vs people-turned beast. At 1st I thought they were talking about Werewolves .... but now perhaps its these Lizard Men?

[dragondreamer]

Something that may or may not be relevant came to my attention.

 

There's a weapon in DA:I called the Moon Axe.

http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Moon_Axe

 

The inscription at the axe blade's base reads "Karolis": the famous bounty hunter and friend to Lord Remi Vascal, the Black Fox. It's unknown why he surrendered his beloved axe, which was a gift from his dead Antivan wife and reportedly came from across the eastern ocean.

 

 

It's funny that there's no discernible reason why it's called the "Moon" Axe, but the detail about being from across the eastern ocean makes it more interesting.  Across the eastern ocean is one of those mysterious lands beyond known Thedas, a place called Amaranth, that has no known inhabitants.  All attempts to colonize it result in mysterious mass disappearances.  It's thought to possibly be the place where the Qunari originally came from, but no one seems to be home.  Or perhaps they hang out underground.

[Aren]

Someone could please tell to Patrick Weekes that Dragon Age need to stop to merge its own lore with the one of Mass Effect?

At each new Dlc a new intelligent race is created from the writers

We're not in a galaxy,it's just a single planet

Qunari,Dwarves,Elves,Humans,Reptilians,Darkspawns,ohh the headache....

[xPez]

I assumed it was talking about Darkspawn tbh, although I'm not sure they have scales. Is there really room in the Deep Roads for the Darkspawn AND some hidden snake people?

 

The more important part of that little side-story imo, is that the priestess mentioned could be one of the Ancient Magisters. She was worshipping a statue of fire, and could shoot fire out of her hands. Toth is the Old God of Fire, and his high priest/priestess was The Forgewright of Fire. Is there a date in the Forgotten War codex entries? Toth awoke in 3:10 Towers and was killed 15 years later.

 

So yeah, don't know about the scaly people but I think the priestess was the Forgewright of Fire.

[Eudaemonium]

 

Someone could please tell to Patrick Weekes that Dragon Age need to stop to merge its own lore with the one of Mass Effect?

At each new Dlc a new intelligent race is created from the writers

We're not in a galaxy,it's just a single planet

Qunari,Dwarves,Elves,Humans,Reptilians,Darkspawns,ohh the headache....

 

 

I think it's probably pretty likely that the Reptilians, if they exist at all, are probably related to either the Qunari (due to the Dragon connection) or are the result of people drinking a lot of dragon blood, possibly over multiple generations.

 

Btw, since the Guardian at the end of Descent starts off the fight looking vaguely like the Ancient Rock Wraith (in its crystal-egg form) have people analysed the possibility of the Primeval Thaig actually *being* a corrupted Titan?

[heretica]

 

 

GOOD OLD TIMES.

[Heimdall]

I'm guessing Kossith, though the lack of horns gives me pause.

[SharableHorizon]

Btw, since the Guardian at the end of Descent starts off the fight looking vaguely like the Ancient Rock Wraith (in its crystal-egg form) have people analysed the possibility of the Primeval Thaig actually *being* a corrupted Titan?

 

Thats the theory I subscribe to. A blighted titan that had it's doors and tunnels sealed, it's eco system corrupted and every Dwarf still trapped inside driven mad and turned into profanes by the red lyrium.

 

Scary stuff right there!

[JadeDragon]

I'm guessing Kossith, though the lack of horns gives me pause.

The only problem I have with lizard men being kossith is the process from kossith to qunari would be even more confusing. going from scales and no horns to horns and no scales that would mean qunari would lose its dragon blood not gain it because if a human reaver consumes so much dragon blood they grow scales then qunari would have there dragon blood taken out of them. So I am assuming maybe a offshoot of dragon hunters or entirely new race. 

[Ballax]

It's the snake men from x-com

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Thats the theory I subscribe to. A blighted titan that had it's doors and tunnels sealed, it's eco system corrupted and every Dwarf still trapped inside driven mad and turned into profanes by the red lyrium.

 

Scary stuff right there!

 

That was something that I thought as well. It could actually provide a good explanation for how and why there could be an ancient blighted thaig that  blighted creatures like darkspawn don't enter. 

 

In that case, the Primeaval Thaig would be something that does predate the darkspawn, but it's corruption would have only occurred during the First Blight or later.

[KCMeredith]

 

Someone could please tell to Patrick Weekes that Dragon Age need to stop to merge its own lore with the one of Mass Effect?

At each new Dlc a new intelligent race is created from the writers

We're not in a galaxy,it's just a single planet

Qunari,Dwarves,Elves,Humans,Reptilians,Darkspawns,ohh the headache....

 

They've been hinted at already before the DLC, in the Emerald Graves

 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Yeah so with regards to the Scaled Ones, that was actually one of the most interesting reveals of the DLC actually. Ancient lizard blood mages from the darkest corners of the deep roads sounds pretty fascinating. Especially when you consider how old this war must have been. It was before the destruction of Cal'Hadash, and Cal'Hadash was destroyed for harboring ancient elves from Arlathan.

 

My biggest question is how did they elude the darkspawn. So far as we know there have not been any strange lizardy variants.

[Cz-99]

Distant cousins of the Tsaesci.

[Beomer]

Distant cousins of the Tsaesci.

 

[Ranadiel Marius]

My biggest question is how did they elude the darkspawn. So far as we know there have not been any strange lizardy variants.

DAI does state that dragons have high blight resistance. Perhaps these scaled creatures are dragon blooded and therefore are highly resistent to the blight?

[Beomer]

Or maybe (hopefully) they didn't survive the blight at all and were just eradicated, and the game will only use them as a link in the lore to explain something else.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Or maybe (hopefully) they didn't survive the blight at all and were just eradicated, and the game will only use them as a link in the lore to explain something else.

If they were eliminated via Blight then there should be some Darkspawn based upon them in the hordes.

[Serza]

I thought these creatures were Hurlocks, and these were the first meeting with the dwarfs prior to the first Blight.

 

So did I. They look somewhat scaly to me. Except, wait, Hurlocks are based off Humans. Shrieks are based off Elves. I think you mean Genlocks (which were the same as Hurlocks, but more dwarfy in Origins)

 

But yeah. I think that was just the first encounter with the Darkspawn.

 

Hurlocks aren't covered in scales, and the description of their behaviour doesn't sound like any darkspawn we've ever seen or heard of.

 

Seemed plenty similar to Darkspawn to me.

[Vulpe]

Well, I think that they could be kossith (or descendats of kossith explorers) and that qunari are remnants from the time that civilization was more human-like. They didn't like where they were going which led to a civil war and their exile. The lizardmen might stay undergorund because it's easier to find dragons that are hybernating that way. Now the qunari are going through a gen cleansing program without their knowing to get rid of the dragon blood. I've made a thread about this quite some time ago. Some things might not apply now, with the new lore we got, but there might still some truth to it.

[Tragedienne of Heavens]

I knew it! Illuminati confirmed, it's all a big conspiracy!

[Andraste_Reborn]

Seemed plenty similar to Darkspawn to me.

 

We've never heard of the darkspawn withdrawing because they lost a soldier in battle, or performing elaborate blood magic rituals. Also, the Scaled Ones talk, which is a rare ability among the darkspawn.

[Statare]

I do think we were given a huge hint though. It compares the look of the Scaled Ones with the Tevinter (aka humans). Qunari, really, do not look like Humans. To me this might be  clue that the Scaled Ones are related to Humans, either mutated through Dragon Blood Magic or something else.

 

Another clue as to why we have seen no Darkspawn equivalent of them: they left. It says they vanished at the end of the Codex, and as this seemed like a small confrontation of a couple of battalions (if not just one) of Dwarves with a small group of Scaled Ones who suddenly vanished, with no records of Thaigs lost or really any other damage to the Dwarves but random attacks, I'd assume the Scaled Ones did not reappear, the Shaperate did not have much to record so they were forgotten in that Dwarven way, and that the Scaled Ones were only in the Deep Roads for something we do not know about. But I am thinking it relates to the Old Gods, who at the time this takes place, would have all been alive, sleeping, and unblighted in the Deep Roads with a Cult of Dragon Worshipping Tevinters living above them.