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Apparently you do.
Do I? Can you read my mind? I come here to have a laugh, but occasionally some threads go too far and I just can't believe anyone would seriously think this way. Commenting in this thread doesn't tell you jack if I care about shoehorning in characters just for ''muh diversity'' or not, so don't assume that I do
As long as it isn't a semi-ranking human female who suddenly jumps 4 ranks in 6 months.
Yes, more Asari, please.
As long as it isn't a semi-ranking human female who suddenly jumps 4 ranks in 6 months.
I don't think you can count Shepard given their player created status.
On the contrary, Shepard is THE best case to evaluate gender equality in the ME universe because we can see how this character is treated if everything about it is equivalent, except for the gender.
The result: There are a few specific characters, such a Harkin or the batarian merc recruiter during Garrus' recruitment quest in ME2 for whom it makes a difference but otherwise, Shepard has exactly the same respect, authority and general impact on and over others, no matter if they are men or women.
That kinda gives you all the information you need on the matter.
Now you may argue that this equality may be caused by game design and budged reasons, more than by a conscious effort to make them equal. Nonetheless, the fact stands that they are and that's that.
Do I? Can you read my mind? I come here to have a laugh, but occasionally some threads go too far and I just can't believe anyone would seriously think this way. Commenting in this thread doesn't tell you jack if I care about shoehorning in characters just for ''muh diversity'' or not, so don't assume that I do
And yet. Here you are, thoughtfully contributing instead of chuckling and moving on.
I don't care about the world - I'm going to Andromeda. With a batallion of Asari!
Or if the intent is for this to be a reflection that human society is still sexist in the 22nd century, which would be depressing but plausible, then it would be nice if this was acknowledged in universe.
Maybe there are more men than women in the Alliance who want to become flag officers?
Another SJW thread. It really sucks to be a writer in a corporate environment these days. You aren't free to write what you feel the way yiu feel but have carefully to appease every demand that is thrown at you. Freaking politics is everywhere now...even in games and entertainment industry.
The opinions of the small amount of people on this forum is in no way representative of the wider audience, and I hope bioware realizes this and starts treating this forum for what it actually is. One big joke. Most people won't care and it won't stop anybody from buying the game,It would really only be detrimental to the game if Bioware think they have to cater to pseudo-progressives when developing it.
And yet. Here you are, thoughtfully contributing instead of chuckling and moving on.
Perhaps you misunderstood my comment? No worries, It'll get to you eventually.
The opinions of the small amount of people on this forum is in no way representative of the wider audience, and I hope bioware realizes this and starts treating this forum for what it actually is. One big joke. Most people won't care and it won't stop anybody from buying the game,It would really only be detrimental to the game if Bioware think they have to cater to pseudo-progressives when developing it.
Why do you think the Devs hardly post here and have hired these unnamed mods?
This place is an Asylum for the crazies.
Perhaps you misunderstood my comment? No worries, It'll get to you eventually.
Yeah, you seem like a complex dude.
On the contrary, Shepard is THE best case to evaluate gender equality in the ME universe because we can see how this character is treated if everything about it is equivalent, except for the gender.
The result: There are a few specific characters, such a Harkin or the batarian merc recruiter during Garrus' recruitment quest in ME2 for whom it makes a difference but otherwise, Shepard has exactly the same respect, authority and general impact on and over others, no matter if they are men or women.
That kinda gives you all the information you need on the matter.
Now you may argue that this equality may be caused by game design and budged reasons, more than by a conscious effort to make them equal. Nonetheless, the fact stands that they are and that's that.
What do you mean by 'equal'? That is my 1st question in these discussions. Do you mean equal in all areas or equal only in areas that are covenient or beneficial?
You mean you weren't satisfied with the lady on the Alliance defence committee?? I mean, she was totally inept, but then so were the men. Equality.
Now that I think of this, most women in the high positions were alien. First council had two female aliens and one male alien. Female alien runs Omega and places were Asari's are dominant. Quarian seem to have somewhat similar number of sexes in the leading positions. Turian and Krogan in other hand seem to have mostly male aliens in leading positions, same with Volus and Batarians, but maybe that's because developers forgot how to animate women when it came to these races? 
In terms of humans, I wasn't too bothered, but game could have included more women in high positions. It would really hurt none to do so and I guess it would be nice to see, but then again I find ME to be quite well balanced except with some alien races.. BW could do better with those.
Now that I think of this, most women in the high positions were alien. First council had two female aliens and one male alien. Female alien runs Omega and places were Asari's are dominant. Quarian seem to have somewhat similar number of sexes in the leading positions. Turian and Krogan in other hand seem to have mostly male aliens in leading positions, same with Volus and Batarians, but maybe that's because developers forgot how to animate women when it came to these races?
In terms of humans, I wasn't too bothered, but game could have included more women in high positions. It would really hurt none to do so and I guess it would be nice to see, but then again I find ME to be quite well balanced except with some alien races.. BW could do better with those.
They forgot to model them when it came to these races, which was stupid considering the turians are probably the second most numerous species in the galaxy. They also made a few boneheaded comments related to the absence of female alien models, but thankfully they've disavowed and tried to correct it. I would hope they don't make the mistake in MEA and beyond.
There are lore reasons that cover the scarcity of krogan and salarian women (even if their total absence till the end of the trilogy is eye rolling), but the absence of turian women was mind-boggling.
And the fact is that it's an unrealistic promotion, even going by their internal rules of how they rank up. If you payed attention to how things were in the game's lore, you'd see this, and the lack of consistency or adherence to continuity.
And seeing as how the game is supposed to be as 'technically' realistic as possible with a hypothetical future (that is based on sci-fi), it actually kind of does matter how things are done in real life.
Of course, BW discarded many of these elements as the series wore on.
It doesn't matter if it made no sense within the universe, at the end of the day Williams got promoted. The OP wanted more Human women of equal or higher rank than Shepard, and Ashley is one of those in Mass Effect 3. Plenty of stuff in Mass Effect isn't consistent, that doesn't mean none of it happened.
Realism isn't actually that big of a thing in Mass Effect. It's not hard sci-fi, and most of our stuff works because "space magic".
It's weird, but I just think let them write as things come out, naturally. Shoving a specific race or gender for the purpose of shoving a specific race or gender into it really stands out as "that's what they're doing." It becomes less about telling a good story with interesting characters as much as t becomes about showcasing an element "because."
Just let it play out naturally.
It doesn't matter if it made no sense within the universe, at the end of the day Williams got promoted. The OP wanted more Human women of equal or higher rank than Shepard, and Ashley is one of those in Mass Effect 3. Plenty of stuff in Mass Effect isn't consistent, that doesn't mean none of it happened.
Realism isn't actually that big of a thing in Mass Effect. It's not hard sci-fi, and most of our stuff works because "space magic".
I hardly ever saw high-ranking female officers when I was in the military. And when do you ever see prominent female Pentagon officials and the like? It's a sausage party because it's a sausage party. Isn't tossing in female characters for the sake of tossing in female characters just as offensive as not having the female characters? If it's done out of pity or to fill a quota instead of being an organic part of the character creation process it's meaningless.
Is there any reason to assume this will be the same a thousand years in the future in another galaxy?
I don't think that conscientiously crafting a setting and treating diversity a priority is quite the same thing as filling a "quota" - and it's certainly not done out of pity.
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