I remember picking Salarians up with biotics, in ME2, and hear a woman scream. Ok, they weren't NPCs you talk to but still. I think I read there was 1 female Krogan in ME2. But she had a helmet on. As for female Turians, yeah, I'd like to see more. You see more in the comics than the game.
Females Nowhere?!
#26
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:35
#27
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:35
I believe all vorcha are genetically identical Mark Meers.
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#28
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:42
The lack of some of them was understandable in that it required different character models (Turians), or there was a lore-based reason for not seeing them (Salarians), but all the Volus and Elcor you meet being male I always thought was odd. For both of those species they wouldn't necessarily need a new character model. The Volus are all wearing exosuits and the Elcor could potentially all look the same to human eyes. For both they could just use female voice actors without bothering with creating different character models.
Well making two character models can be bit time consuming, but when Bioware already makes many character models for different races and enemies I don't think making female alien models should be something too time-consuming. And yes Elcor and Volus should be quite easy.
There is atleast one female Elcor, Bubin's sister from Blasto 6: Partners in Crime. She has a different voice than all other Elcor. This is indeed, too few female Elcor.
We saw only three Drell. That's a reasonable explanation.
Nobody would see a difference between a male and a female Volus, if a Volus is not refered to as ''he'' you could simply assume that the Volus in question is female. The fact that their voices all sound similar could be explained because of their in-build suit translator has its own voice.
Possibly her, but also the Dalatrass, Linron.
When you think of a pirate or terrorist, do you think of a female? Most batarians we meet are either terrorists or pirates.
Perhaps female Vorcha are less violent and don't go out in the open? It could also be that certain Vorcha were female, but that we didn't notice it.
I don't remember seeing Bubin's sister in the game, but I'll stay on look out when I play ME3 next time. I guess it's nice to hear there was finally one around.
Seeing only male Drells when there is only three in game would be reasonable and I wouldn't question it- if only there weren't so many races without female counterparts. When there is 6 to 8 races I don't think it's coincidence anymore.
Actually I think some of Voluses are referred as "he" in the game? I wanted to make sure so I watched this one: https://www.youtube....h?v=nvz1wIovoFY and Garrus refers partner of that Volus who is also Volus with "he" around 1:15. I guess some could be females and we just wouldn't know it since there is no difference.. but I doubt it.
I had forgotten those Salarians so thanks for pointing it out. Hmm, it really seems like BW did lot better towards ME3. Hopefully they will do even better in ME:A.
Well being quite familiar with Isabela I don't automatically think "pirate" is male. I don't think "terrorist" is so gendered either, though I have to admit that I can't think of any female terrorist right of the bat.
I guess female Vorcha could be like that, but when we already have so many races with females nowhere.. well it'd be bit cop-out ^^;
#29
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:44
I'd be fairly surprised if there were female Vorcha as such - they were described as a sort of colony organism more akin to extremely mobile coral than humans really.
An absolute lack of Vorcha is quite a good explanation for a lack of shown female Vorcha, if this is what you are impying.
#30
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:44
Well making two character models can be bit time consuming, but when Bioware already makes many character models for different races and enemies I don't think making female alien models should be something too time-consuming. And yes Elcor and Volus should be quite easy.
I don't remember seeing Bubin's sister in the game, but I'll stay on look out when I play ME3 next time. I guess it's nice to hear there was finally one around.
You never actually see Bubin's sister. You just hear her over the com. Voiced by Jennifer Hale, if I recall correctly.
#31
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:49
An absolute lack of Vorcha is quite a good explanation for a lack of shown female Vorcha, if this is what you are impying.
More that I doubt Vorcha have gender at all.
#32
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:52
Actually I think some of Voluses are referred as "he" in the game? I wanted to make sure so I watched this one: https://www.youtube....h?v=nvz1wIovoFY and Garrus refers partner of that Volus who is also Volus with "he" around 1:15. I guess some could be females and we just wouldn't know it since there is no difference.. but I doubt it.
What I meant with this: " if a Volus is not refered to as ''he'' you could simply assume that the Volus in question is female. The fact that their voices all sound similar could be explained because of their in-build suit translator has its own voice." Is that when a Volus is not referenced with he/him/his you could assume the discussed Volus is female. We often do the exact opposite.
#33
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:54
If you hear the word ''pirate'', you think of a male. Bioware is (I think) trying to fit inside these lines of thought.
When it come to the word pirate on this forum I think of Isabela
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#34
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:56
I don't remember seeing Bubin's sister in the game, but I'll stay on look out when I play ME3 next time. I guess it's nice to hear there was finally one around.
You don't see her. You hear her when listening to pieces of Blasto 6: Partners in crime. If I recall correctly the subtitles name her: ''Coquettish Elcor Honey''.
#35
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:58
#36
Posté 13 août 2015 - 02:59
When it come to the word pirate on this forum I think of Isabela
And when not on this forum?
It doesn't matter, if you ask someone "What do you think of when somebody says ''pirate''?'', they probably won't reply: ''Isabela''
You can assume they didn't play any Dragon Age games, and don't know who Isabela is. I can't blame them because I had to google her.
#37
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:02
As I said in the other thread:
photoshopped Stock photo of a quarian (Tali).
Krogan female dressed in a sack.
Salarian female covered except for her face
Writing lore to justify not showing females in early games.
Not really that impressed.
At least Quarians had different body models. But then they went and tried to appeal to Talimancers by photoshopping a pretty Human woman, giving fans what they thought fans wanted to see, an attractive romance option, instead of actually designing and showing a race that had been covered up until then.
Korgans, sure we briefly see Eve, but again, covered in a full body burkha, showing only her (likely male model) eyes. Same with the Dalatross. They didn't even have to do this. Give them different colouring and voice actress. I can't tell the difference between male and female turtles or amphibians. That's perfectly fine.
All this could be done with small variations in models, using the same design but different colouring or smaller plates for a female Krogan, for instance.
#38
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:05
Krogan female dressed in a sack.
It's called a niqab.
#39
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:11
And when not on this forum?
It doesn't matter, if you ask someone "What do you think of when somebody says ''pirate''?'', they probably won't reply: ''Isabela''
You can assume they didn't play any Dragon Age games, and don't know who Isabela is. I can't blame them because I had to google her.
You're right about everyone not knowing about Isabela.
How many people have you asked about the word pirate aside from on this forum? Would everyone respond by saying they think of a male? A few might say female. I don't know
#40
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:16
Yes, but as is the case in fantasy, when people talk about "non-humans" they mean humans with bad make up, not genderless sapient plant that mind controls its victims through airborne spores.
In the rendered environment of a video game, people shouldn't be limiting their imaginations based off of budget constraints of shows from the 60s. (IMO)
#41
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:18
We did get Eve, Nyreen Kandros and the Salarian Dalatrass in the last game, so it showed some progress atleast. Will probably continue on in Andromeda.
ME3 did seem to correct some mistakes dev made earlier in the series so it's promising ^^
#42
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:20
You're right about everyone not knowing about Isabela.
How many people have you asked about the word pirate aside from on this forum? Would everyone respond by saying they think of a male? A few might say female. I don't know
I asked the people who were currently in my proximity, one answered ''Sea'' and another answered ''Blackbeard''. Google ''pirate'' and you the first page of images contains more Jolly Rogers than females.
#43
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:42
I asked the people who were currently in my proximity, one answered ''Sea'' and another answered ''Blackbeard''. Google ''pirate'' and you the first page of images contains more Jolly Rogers than females.
Well I know that majority of pirates in fiction and history have been male so I guess that is fair. However I don't think the word and occupation is so gendered that female pirate Batarian would feel weird to have ^^
#44
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:45
However I don't think the word and occupation is so gendered that female pirate Batarian would feel weird to have ^^
For Bioware it is, apperantly...
#45
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:47
I agree, BioWare has shown more of the female aliens as the series has moved on. With that being said though, I really hope that the inclusion of more female aliens, or just new Andromeda aliens in general aren't just put their for sex appeal. Nyreen was an accomplished mercenary leader, but does an avian species really need to have breasts? We are dealing with alien species here, do all of the females need to be something that appeals to a human's sense of attractiveness?
I would like to see more female aliens, but I would much rather see a race with a great deal of sexual dimorphism between genders, than for near-identical aliens, except that one has boobs.
This is what I am afraid of if Bioware makes a female drell.

This is Irikah, the only female Drell we have heard about. I, unfortunately, see that she has breasts that mimics human anatomy. Why would an amphibian species have these if not for the design that the artist wanted? If bioware does put in female drell in MEA, I hope they have flatter chests and anatomy that works for the species that they resemble/come from.
I just really want a female Drell squadmate done right without unnecessary body parts.
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#46
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:48
For Bioware it is, apperantly...
More like ME2 side of Bioware, since DA's only pirate (seen in the game) is indeed woman named Isabela ^^
#47
Posté 13 août 2015 - 03:51
More like ME2 side of Bioware, since DA's only pirate (seen in the game) is indeed woman named Isabela ^^
I should have known. I apoligise, for whatever that's worth.
#48
Posté 13 août 2015 - 05:36
I just really want a female Drell squadmate done right without unnecessary body parts.
Hips not resembling human females might be a nice change, too. It seemed a bit silly to me that the turian female's hips were curvy instead of angular like the male's.
It could be interesting to see a species where the dimorphism is reversed, with females being bigger than the males.
I think part of the problem is that they are using visually recognizable cues (chest bumps, wide curvy hips) to help the audience distinguish sex - well, that and voices. I'd like to see some alien species that didn't follow that standard.
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#49
Posté 13 août 2015 - 05:39
They are called Rachni. It is not what you meant but it is quite similar to what you said.It could be interesting to see a species where the dimorphism is reversed, with females being bigger than the males.
#50
Posté 13 août 2015 - 05:56
They are called Rachni. It is not what you meant but it is quite similar to what you said.
With hive insects, it's pretty much expected, but there are other animals that have much larger females. Birds of prey are a good example.





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