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[prosthetic soul]

I just think the chance for closure was ME3. If some people feel that's not enough, I'm really sorry for then, but I really don't see how anyone would expect MEA to deal with the issues of a largely unrelated game. As you said, it won't have the Milky Way, and it won't have Shepard, so why would it have to deal with it?

Sure, you're not condescending at all, you just pity them in your own twisted little way.  That's not equally offensive or anything.  Also, the bolded part....are you serious?

 

It's the fourth game-a sequel-in a franchise titled Mass Effect.  How more related can you get possibly get? 

[N7Jamaican]

I just think the chance for closure was ME3. If some people feel that's not enough, I'm really sorry for then, but I really don't see how anyone would expect MEA to deal with the issues of a largely unrelated game. As you said, it won't have the Milky Way, and it won't have Shepard, so why would it have to deal with it?

 

Yes! BioWare has moved on, they've mentioned this several times over.  I've moved on the moment I've read the leak, and quite frankly -- I wanted a new ME game with new stories and new characters.

[prosthetic soul]

Yes! BioWare has moved on, they've mentioned this several times over.  I've moved on the moment I've read the leak, and quite frankly -- I wanted a new ME game with new stories and new characters.

Yes, they've moved on.  But many others haven't.  And we're the ones supporting their games.   

[LinksOcarina]

lol, how long did it take you to come up with that rebuttal? 

 

Not long, which is pretty much how much I think of your reply really.

 

Id say for you to shut it already and take your petulant attitude elsewhere, but you won't do that. I guess I should expect as much considering your signature though. 

 

Ah well, continue to post nothing I guess, everyone needs to waste time every now and then.

[N7Jamaican]

Sure, you're not condescending at all, you just pity them in your own twisted little way.  That's not equally offensive or anything.  Also, the bolded part....are you serious?

 

It's the fourth game-a sequel-in a franchise titled Mass Effect.  How more related can you get possibly get? 

 

I think the poster means: ME:A won't have Reapers, Shepard, or anything tying Shep's story to Andromeda.

[N7Jamaican]

Yes, they've moved on.  But many others haven't.  And we're the ones supporting their games.   

 

I don't know what to tell them.  I am not one of those players who was (or still are) livid with the ending to ME3.  I am happy with how my Shepard's story ended.  However, there are some things I'd like to see resolved.  And I am ok with it not being addressed in ME:A. 

[Malanek]

If it is going to be separate, and the technology does not allow people to galaxy hop quite easily, then it should be entirely separate and have no further closure at all. I would love to see the milky way rebuild in a future game though.

[prosthetic soul]

Not long, which is pretty much how much I think of your reply really.

 

Id say for you to shut it already and take your petulant attitude elsewhere, but you won't do that. I guess I should expect as much considering your signature though. 

 

Ah well, continue to post nothing I guess, everyone needs to waste time every now and then.

Man, someone's a little testy today.   I'd hate to call you a massive hypocrite for calling me petulant when you're the one who's over there slinging insults at me for no reason, or at the very least, for calling out the holes in your argument.  If that ain't petulant, I don't know what is. 

[N7Jamaican]

If it is going to be separate, and the technology does not allow people to galaxy hop quite easily, then it should be entirely separate and have no further closure at all. I would love to see the milky way rebuild in a future game though.

 

If they revist the Milky Way in a future ME game, I'd be fine with that.  Unfortunately, I don't see us leaving the Andromeda galaxy for a few games.

[LinksOcarina]

If they revist the Milky Way in a future ME game, I'd be fine with that.  Unfortunately, I don't see us leaving the Andromeda galaxy for a few games.

 

Were not even sure of the jumping off point yet though.

 

I still think were going to start in the Milky Way, or at least have reference to the Milky Way in some form in the game.

 

To me it's the only logical explanation for how the resources will actually work based upon the leaks so far, but I guess we shall see what happens when we find out more.

[Andrew Lucas]

While not a requirement, reading that Shepard lived well after the war would be perfect, that's it. Yes, I know, Import choices and blabla, still....

[Gwydden]

Sure, you're not condescending at all, you just pity them in your own twisted little way.  That's not equally offensive or anything.

No, I mean it literally. I really don't see it. I'd honestly appreciate an explanation. I think you may be trying too hard to be offended.

 

Also, the bolded part....are you serious? It's the fourth game-a sequel-in a franchise titled Mass Effect.  How more related can you get possibly get? 

A fourth game that takes place in a far removed part of the setting. With completely different characters. With a completely different plot.

 

Why on earth is it obligated to provide closure for characters that will not feature significantly, to a plot it doesn't follow, and an area of the setting it doesn't share? And yet again, I insist that question is not rhetorical.

[Malanek]

Were not even sure of the jumping off point yet though.

 

I still think were going to start in the Milky Way, or at least have reference to the Milky Way in some form in the game.

 

To me it's the only logical explanation for how the resources will actually work based upon the leaks so far, but I guess we shall see what happens when we find out more.

There are multiple ways they can do it, but if an important reason for moving to Andromeda is to avoid defaulting an ending, it would make sense to have them do it before the end. Granted we don't know how they are going to do it, but I strongly suspect the initial colonists left before they were affected by the crucible.

[prosthetic soul]

No, I mean it literally. I really don't see it. I'd honestly appreciate an explanation. I think you may be trying too hard to be offended.

 

A fourth game that takes place in a far removed part of the setting. With completely different characters. With a completely different plot.

 

Why on earth is it obligated to provide closure for characters that will not feature significantly, to a plot it doesn't follow, and an area of the setting it doesn't share? And yet again, I insist that question is not rhetorical.

It's obligated because there are threads still hanging loose from ME 3.  Massive threads.

[LinksOcarina]

Man, someone's a little testy today.   I'd hate to call you a massive hypocrite for calling me petulant when you're the one who's over there slinging insults at me for no reason, or at the very least, for calling out the holes in your argument.  If that ain't petulant, I don't know what is. 

 

I wouldn't be as testy if you actually called out a hole in an argument.

 

Problem is, you didn't make an argument, you stated something as if it was an objective fact when it is not one.

 

We can honestly get into this if you want to about subjectivity vs objectivity, of art and intent, closure, personal belief versus function of what shown, the extended cut adding the coda to the events of Mass Effect 3, all the same old arguments and so on and what not, but frankly it's going to derail the thread and go nowhere because you don't want to hear it due to personal bitterness of how you fell, and I don't feel like doing it because it's a waste of my time.

 

So yes, you are being petulant and frankly need to shut up already about it, as I doubt no one wants to hear it or be bothered by your goading with your posts.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

There are multiple ways they can do it, but if an important reason for moving to Andromeda is to avoid defaulting an ending, it would make sense to have them do it before the end. Granted we don't know how they are going to do it, but I strongly suspect the initial colonists left before they were affected by the crucible.

I really hope we don't leave before or during the Reaper War. Please let it be after. 

[Vanilka]

Meh, I don't really expect anything. To me, ME3's ending is beyond broken and I don't think it could possibly be fixed in the following game because it's not like MEA can swoop in and erase the errors in the narrative, lore, consistence, etc., made at the end of the previous game. And, personally, I'd prefer they leave my Shepard alone. I've got the headcanon-your-own-ending breath scene from Destroy, the Reapers and the Catalyst are DEAD (Good riddance!), and I make the most of the little we've got. I still don't like the ending, especially because of the Catalyst and RGB, but I don't expect or wish MEA to deal with it or drag it along. Especially since it's supposed to be in a different galaxy and years later. Although it might be cool to hear some references to Shepard and co. occasionally. However, since I've heard this is likely to be a non-import game, those probably couldn't be very personalised.

 

In a way, I'm really looking forward to the new galaxy. I mean, SPACE! However, I'm not happy that the reason for it was that they screwed Milky Way so bad we had to move out. Ah, well.

[Gwydden]

It's obligated because there are threads still hanging loose from ME 3.  Massive threads.

But this is a separate story that only happens to occur in the same universe. Would you demand the same if it was a reboot or a prequel? Because that's about the sort of connectivity I'd wager you can expect.

[Killroy]

Chances are they'll use something like the Dragon Age: Keep, where it either reads your save files and makes a world state for you or you do it manually.

 
Why would they spend the time, money and resources on a Keep for ME:A if the decisions from previous games won't be carrying over? The whole point of changing the setting is to get away from the trilogy, so why would they make a Mass Effect Keep? What would the point of it be?

[prosthetic soul]

I wouldn't be as testy if you actually called out a hole in an argument.

 

Problem is, you didn't make an argument, you stated something as if it was an objective fact when it is not one.

 

We can honestly get into this if you want to about subjectivity vs objectivity, of art and intent, closure, personal belief versus function of what shown, the extended cut adding the coda to the events of Mass Effect 3, all the same old arguments and so on and what not, but frankly it's going to derail the thread and go nowhere because you don't want to hear it due to personal bitterness of how you fell, and I don't feel like doing it because it's a waste of my time.

 

So yes, you are being petulant and frankly need to shut up already about it, as I doubt no one wants to hear it or be bothered by your goading with your posts.

Objectively, the endings did not provide enough closure.  FACT. 
The band-aid over the gaping wound known as the Extended Cut didn't fix anything either.  So, how about you stop insulting me like a child with a bruised ego and put your money where your mouth is?

[LinksOcarina]

There are multiple ways they can do it, but if an important reason for moving to Andromeda is to avoid defaulting an ending, it would make sense to have them do it before the end. Granted we don't know how they are going to do it, but I strongly suspect the initial colonists left before they were affected by the crucible.

 

Which is why I don't think the move will be before the end.

 

I feel like it will be well after. For me it makes a lot more sense for them to go to Andromeda as an actual council mission; they have new technology and are the test run to other galaxies now that the Reapers are gone. Maybe it's even Reaper tech they use to do it.

 

Which also implies communication between the Milky Way and Andromeda, at least tangentially, and removes immediate danger of lack of of people involved in the expedition; one of the problems I have with the Ark Theory is if they are pulling what is essentially a Battlestar Galactica and having say 50,000 people or so going on the expedition, numbers will likely become too much of a liability to a lot of the objectives proposed in the leaks, namely the multiplayer modes and how resource gathering would work.

 

This is of course based on the idea that the numbers going to Andromeda will be insignificant. I am trying to remember if someone did this, but is there like a minimum number required to re-populate an entire species? 

[Killroy]

Objectively, the endings did not provide enough closure.  FACT.

That's not a fact. It's an opinion. Calling it a fact is just childish. Are you going to hold your breath until someone else begrudgingly says it's a fact? Or flop down on the floor and scream and kick the air?

[Spectr61]

I want and expect none.
 
ME3 has been over for a long time now. I politely suggest some people deal with it.

Why would you ever tell someone else how to feel about a game?

The fact that you did speaks volumes.

[LinksOcarina]

Objectively, the endings did not provide enough closure.  FACT. 
The band-aid over the gaping wound known as the Extended Cut didn't fix anything either.  So, how about you stop insulting me like a child with a bruised ego and put your money where your mouth is?

 

Said the child who cries the loudest.

 

You say nothing that is a fact.  It is an opinion, learn that right now. 

 

When you have something factual to say, come back to me and I might care then. Otherwise, you are wasting my time. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 
Why would they spend the time, money and resources on a Keep for ME:A if the decisions from previous games won't be carrying over? The whole point of changing the setting is to get away from the trilogy, so why would they make a Mass Effect Keep? What would the point of it be?

We have no idea if choices will be carrying over or not. Bioware has not confirmed one way or the other on it, though they have mentioned looking into doing a DA:Keep thing. Whether that is for future games after Andromeda and it will merely track your choices in Andromeda like DA:Keep does with DAI or to import Shepard Trilogy decisions, we don't know.