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How much ME3 closure do you want or expect in MEA?


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#151
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Well, everything's conjecture until more is actually revealed  :D

 

Again, cryonics are a possibility. And even if not, I don't share the opinion that it 'doesn't seem right'. Playing as colonists far removed from their Milky ancestors seems interesting to me.

 

What makes you think it's a Council operation? That's pure conjecture  :lol:

 

I think it's more likely it's otherwise. People like TIM knew about the Reapers decades before they arrived. I'm not saying he's the one behind it, but he wasn't the only want that knew either.

 

Actually, I used the Reapers' speed to get that two hundred figure. But sure, they could make something up, hence the disclaimer.

 

More than likely they find a gate, or improve the Mass Effect fields. I can see that as the major possibilities honestly.

 

And really, everything about the premise sounds like a Council initiative to me. As we both said, still conjecture.



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That could simply mean they're starting a new trilogy with MEA and plan to use it to carry over stuff into MEA2.

I know. In an earlier post, I said that they may just use it to record the choices made in Mass Effect: Andromeda for use in future titles like the Dragon Age Keep is doing with Dragon Age: Inquisition. 

 

More than likely they find a gate, or improve the Mass Effect fields. I can see that as the major possibilities honestly.

 

And really, everything about the premise sounds like a Council initiative to me. As we both said, still conjecture.

Maybe after the Reaper War, they reverse-engineer Reaper Drives and develop a system that solves the discharge problem, making a trip to Andromeda possible. Or like you said they find a gate of some sort, developed by the Reapers or some unknown force. 



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More than likely they find a gate, or improve the Mass Effect fields. I can see that as the major possibilities honestly.

 

And really, everything about the premise sounds like a Council initiative to me. As we both said, still conjecture.

It's entirely possible. I'm not convinced because it complicates matters even further. I'm guessing they want it to be a one way trip and they want it to happen before the ending of ME3 at the very least.

 

Personally I like my idea better. TIM knew about the Reapers before Shepard's big reveal. So did some volus billionaire. Even Liara knew, in an abstract sense. When you meet her she talks about the 'Cycle of Destruction', and it's not a notion that only she has. Even if they don't know exactly what the cause is, periodic annihilation of space-faring life sounds serious enough to band resourceful people willing to invest in preventing it.

 

It would be a project undertaken by private organizations and/or national governments, not the Council. Wouldn't be the first time they hide stuff (COUGH COUGH asari COUGH COUGH). They would invest heavily to develop the necessary technology, and they might have been helped by findings in ancient sites. After all, if many cycles invested in a superweapon agains the Reapers, I'm sure at least some tried to find a way to outrun them. And this operation would have started before the trilogy, and probably departed sometime during it. This all would explain why we never get any hint of it.

 

Conjecture, but it's a fairly reasonable scenario that I would prefer to any wild Deus Ex Machina like the ones that plagued the trilogy.



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Which also implies communication between the Milky Way and Andromeda, at least tangentially, and removes immediate danger of lack of of people involved in the expedition; one of the problems I have with the Ark Theory is if they are pulling what is essentially a Battlestar Galactica and having say 50,000 people or so going on the expedition, numbers will likely become too much of a liability to a lot of the objectives proposed in the leaks, namely the multiplayer modes and how resource gathering would work.

 

Having just 50000 people is one of the positives the setting to me. I would actually go with lower. What you would miss from this however is having multiple established cities. Unless you set the game many, many generations after the colonists arrive you won't have more than a single main population hub.

 

But you can tell really interesting stories. Enemies can be technologically inferior to you, but extremely dangerous since they have a much larger industrial and population base. I would really like such a setting.



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 How much closure? None. I have all the closure I needed from the trilogy. I'm hoping for an entirely blank slate, zero connections to any of the characters or major plot points of the series. 

 

The only constant I want is the technology and aesthetic, since Bioware foolishly ruled out the setting.


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#156
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Having just 50000 people is one of the positives the setting to me. I would actually go with lower. What you would miss from this however is having multiple established cities. Unless you set the game many, many generations after the colonists arrive you won't have more than a single main population hub.

 

But you can tell really interesting stories. Enemies can be technologically inferior to you, but extremely dangerous since they have a much larger industrial and population base. I would really like such a setting.

 

I can see that as a positive I guess, but it leads to heavy limitations. The biggest of which being the idea of colony establishment, and the fact that your population is literally a primary resource that needs to be carefully monitored at all times. If the promise of untamed lands and lawless mercenaries are really in the world, I feel like such a small population going becomes a major liability; why would you risk people for everything you do?

 

It then becomes Battlestar Galactica in another way; it is literally a countdown of how many you have left, and in the case of the species involved, how many left of each species. That just reeks of not only tedium, but storytelling suicide because it can lead to you being literally backed into a corner narratively speaking. 


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#157
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The cloud has nothing to do with cross-gen support. They would have sink money and resources into translating last-gen saves into transferable data. And Mike Gamble said we should hang on to our saves like 3 years ago. IIRC it was before Citadel even came out.

PC players are the minority. They won't implement a feature that only a minority of the customers can use.

 

Women make up 8% of the me3 playerbase. They got 100% representation in making their shepard should they wish for gender identification, but do continue your uncontested streak in incorrect assumptions, it's pretty robust.

 

 

 

 

I want to know whether or not the genophage was cured and how the Rannoch arc was resolved and whether or not the quarians, geth, or both survived, as those two things could effect what races will be accompanying us to Andromeda and what state they'd be in when we get there; a genophage-cured krogan population is much more useful to us than one still suffering from it.

 

If the Ark leaves at any point before Priority: Tuchanka, none of that is relevant, and is literally handwaved away by "these krogan females are fertile" and "these rannochians love each other very much" and "this rachni egg was a queen, so we don't need QETs to comm, we have Formic Ansibles rachni to give us the 411."



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Hopefully none.



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Women make up 8% of the me3 playerbase. They got 100% representation in making their shepard should they wish for gender identification, but do continue your uncontested streak in incorrect assumptions, it's pretty robust.


I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

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I go to the gym (Planet Fitness) come back, and wow.  This thread has derailed. Quickly.

 

To the poster who said women make up 8% of the playerbase for Mass Effect, did you pull that statistic out of your anus or do you have a credible source to back it up?


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#161
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I go to the gym (Planet Fitness) come back, and wow.  This thread has derailed. Quickly.

 

To the poster who said women make up 8% of the playerbase for Mass Effect, did you pull that statistic out of your anus or do you have a credible source to back it up?

 

Psst. Don't derail it more  :P .

 

I guess it might be too late though...



#162
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Psst. Don't derail it more  :P .

 

I guess it might be too late though...

 

This thread is already off the rails friend, lol.  Might as well either a. contribute to the derailing or b. get it back on track.  Guess what I chose?



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Women make up 8% of the me3 playerbase. They got 100% representation in making their shepard should they wish for gender identification, but do continue your uncontested streak in incorrect assumptions, it's pretty robust.

 

Wouldn't 100% representation require changing the sex of the entire cast to female? 

 

Also, 8%? That's more than I thought. Much more than the AshleyMadison.com percentage of 0. 



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Whoops



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I expect very little and desire only a bit.



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Maybe if the Vorcha had a longer life span, and did not have to fight for resources, they could actually grow as a society.  

 

 

I dunno if fighting over resources is a particularly big problem among the vorcha. Those bastards are so adaptable, if you trapped one in a room with nothing but a bucket of nylon stockings, it'd probably develop the ability to metabolize it. 


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I dunno if fighting over resources is a particularly big problem among the vorcha. Those bastards are so adaptable, if you trapped one in a room with nothing but a bucket of nylon stockings, it'd probably develop the ability to metabolize it. 

 

I accidentally posted that in the wrong thread lol.


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#168
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I accidentally posted that in the wrong thread lol.

No closure like derailment. 


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#169
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With the technology available in the ME universe (that is, assuming they don't just pull stuff out of their collective ass) it would take at least two hundred years to get to Andromeda. Probably more, as those are extremely unlikely optimal conditions. Whether the 'Ark' is a generation ship or uses cryonics (if the concept art shown is of the Ark I'm going for the former), it'll be centuries before it reaches its destination.

 

It would take more than two hundred years for REAPERS to get to Andromeda.  It would take nearly five hundred for a human ship to make it.

 

And drive cores would discharge into the ships hulls after a few days, rendering how a crew could survive the trip moot.

 

So yeah, it would take some orifice-pulling tech-wise to make this happen.


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Wouldn't 100% representation require changing the sex of the entire cast to female? 

 

Also, 8%? That's more than I thought. Much more than the AshleyMadison.com percentage of 0. 

 

No, they had the had the ability to pick a female with the same amount of options and features males had, ala 100% parity. Pretty sure the PC userbase is larger than 10%, and MP is still quite healthy on both 360 and PC.

 

 

 

source

 

BioWare's publicly published Mass Effect metric infographics are the source.



#171
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None. That's the whole point, I think.

 

It's all good. Let Shepard et al rest in pieces and take us to pastures new.

 

the point is to be pointless? because that's exactly what it is. pointless. there's no point in keeping people in the dark about whether Shepard survived - if it's a post-Reapers period. especially after all the hours and days and weeks and months people have invested in this character, to be told all of the sudden that it didn't matter.



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None at all.

 

I'm sorry your situation has let you down
I know that things did not go as planned
But in this time you're feeling alone and sad
This is what you must understand

 

There is a way, yesterday is gone
It's a new day, yesterday is gone
Yesterday is gone, yesterday is gone
My dear Kay

 

You can't get nowhere staying at home and crying
You can't go on living in the past
The one thing constant is that there is always change
Not every thing in life's meant to last

 

But there is a way, yesterday is gone
It's a new day, yesterday is gone
Yesterday is gone, yesterday is gone
My dear Kay

 

Shepard is living with the Hero of Ferelden in Korriban as far as I'm concerned.



#173
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The closure ended with Shepard when he/she "mixed" into the Crucible beam. ME:A should be the beginning of a new story, not a new episode of previous story.

#174
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Liara proeminent character, mandatory romance, unkillable but can betray and kill you.
Oh the rage, the sweetest rage.

Actually I don't want more ME3 closure, simply don't touch the original trilogy, it's fragile enough as it is.

#175
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It's a little disconcerting finishing Shepard's journey so brusquely with a blaze. The developers talked about the end of Shepard and squad's chaotic voyage and pressingly so. It looks like we'll need to tell the rest of Shepard's story ourselves -  we all have different stories to tell after all, and Bioware wants to pay attention to new characters and worlds. Shepard and his/her squad need some sleep. But any references to Shepard, they would get some hearts skipping, PLEASE give us something!