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[BassStyles]

Want: A lot. (Well, a just a bit more than what the EC slides showed at the end)

 

Expect. None.

[stargatefan1990]

I want the Endings to be expanded on (ending on a picture montage is unacceptable) but i expect nothing whatsoever and I'm not going to be pre ordering this game and will wait for reviews.

[N7Jamaican]

Don't expect much fans.  But I've made a list with so far over 50 questions that I would like for one of them to get answered on N7 day.  And I've even reactivated an old twitter account just to ask a few questions on my list

[MrFob]

I am happy for the new game to leave well enough alone.

I do want a connection to the trilogy in some shape or form. Ideally, we'll get something like seeing the Andromeda crowd leaving the MW during the heights of the reaper war, get some more or less satisfying explanation for how we get there and why there is no more cntact to the MW and that's it. After this link is made, I am happy to leave the MW issues to just codex and NPC references and deal with something new and fresh for the rest of the game.

 

That is not to say that I never want to know how things will turn out after ME3 but I think it may be a good idea to let it all rest for a while and do something different for a time.

[Redbelle]

My view on ME3's ending......

 

The fans gave them IT as a get out.... as a basis to build upon to explain why things didn't go so badly in terms of developing an ending that drove the devs of ME into a cull-de-sack narrative where everything did happen..... and so nothing more can ever be written. BW turned the opportunity down and stuck to the, we can never develop past this ending....... So if they ever want to go back to the Milky Way...... It's their mess. Let them write their way out of it.

 

Hopefully ME3 will stand as an example of how not to develop a game series.

[AlanC9]

You really think IT would have worked? Canonizing a widely-hated theory doesn't get Bio anywhere.

[N7Jamaican]

My view on ME3's ending......

 

The fans gave them IT as a get out.... as a basis to build upon to explain why things didn't go so badly in terms of developing an ending that drove the devs of ME into a cull-de-sack narrative where everything did happen..... and so nothing more can ever be written. BW turned the opportunity down and stuck to the, we can never develop past this ending....... So if they ever want to go back to the Milky Way...... It's their mess. Let them write their way out of it.

 

Hopefully ME3 will stand as an example of how not to develop a game series.

 

Let's keep it real, Mass Effect 3 wasn't a bad game.  In fact many would agree it's one of the best.  Yes, some were upset about the ending, and thus the Extended Cut DLC was born.  Others still haven't gotten over the ending despite the game being out for almost 4 years.

 

The series as a whole, has its flaws, but it has its shining moments.  It's safe to say, the Mass Effect Universe is one of the most popular to have came out in the past 8 years.

 

I hope the devs can take everything good about ME and improve upon it, and everything bad -- either cut it from the game or fully flesh it out.

[CrutchCricket]

Oh so this did turn into an ending thread after all.

 

Inevitable in retrospect.

[LinksOcarina]

Oh so this did turn into an ending thread after all.

 

Inevitable in retrospect.

 

The cycle must continue.

[N7Jamaican]

The cycle must continue.

 

Hopefully the next cycle can stop it.

[The Heretic of Time]

(ending on a picture montage is unacceptable)

 

Why? 99% of all RPGs with multiple endings end on a slide-show montage.

 

Besides it's not just a slide-show montage, the EC also added extra cutscenes.

All in all, the EC gave us plenty of closure. More than enough.

[stargatefan1990]

Technicaly speaking the original ending(s) gave us closure but it was very badly written and the EC barely helps with that. 

If your happy with the ending then that is genuinely good for you but They never fixed the ending.

 

Don't get me wrong I think this next game has alot of great potential and If people I trust like it and then I will buy it.  

[Redbelle]

If ME3 was good at anything, it was the combat system. The combat environment's.... some good, some bad. But the system was nigh on perfect compared to how it stared in ME1.

 

However, ME3 felt like the 'lite' version of a Mass Effect game by focusing on the combat to the exclusion of other ME mechanics that were streamlined or stripped from the game.

 

Perhaps the one thing that confused me the most however was the Reapers. Two games were spent setting up these monster's in the dark and when we finally met them, we fought their footsoldier's. Not the Reaper's per se. Aside from the one or two that were singled out for some epic and inventive battles ME3 felt like the enemy had appeared, and yet were seperated by a sheet of glass.

 

MEA, if it chooses to go through another set-up of an all powerful enemy, could stand to learn that if a player is presented with an enemy, then the player's automatic reaction, by way of video game logic is to fight the enemy. ME3's narrative approach and focus on the smaller obstacles in the way of the main objective meant that the main objective was..... weird. For starter's, the game inflicts a death state on the player. Normally a sign of failure and a time to reload.... but BW showed in ME2, in it's suicide mission, how a death state can be earned by the player in a narratively coherent and player interactable way. ME3 felt like a step backwards from that design. In MEA I'd like to see the possibility of Complete Defeat and Complete Victory brought back that past BW titles utilised in a gamut of flavour endings the player can earn. Not that I wouldn't take an ME1 ending.... but BW demonstrated how player interaction can lead to a better narrative experience that alter's outcomes. That's a progression from ME1 and the same is found in DA:O where player choices affect outcomes and lead to future consequences. Sure the choices and consequences are mapped out now. But at the time, this means of marrying narrative and gameplay was a big deal and BW's forte. Seeing them go back and continue developing that style of game design would give me closure in that BW were returning to a considered, measured approach towards developing games. Not taking the guts of the mechanics, cutting out aspects of the overall gameplay design and then slapping a big Mass Effect sticker on the box. This goes further than endings or gameplay. It cuts to the core of the development team and their ability to bring their vision and ambition to the franchise while adding something to it. ME3 kinda coasted on past successes. Hopefully the backlash taught BW that people love the franchise they developed and want to see it developed in a way that does justice to it's past releases, and it's potential as a fictional universe.

 

As for MEA, I'm happy for it to stand alone with some narrative as to why they went to another galaxy, as it gives the in game universe a group of heroes for the player to interact with and control while also giving the in game universe time to repair all the damage the ending of ME3 did to it's ability to support another narrative, without having to explain how certain states and events, at the ending of ME3, were done away with to create a game state that can support another game set in the milky way.

[Ahglock]

They basically have 3 options all with their flaws and things some people will hate.

1. Pick cannon ending/story.
Makes it easy but invalidates player choice.

2. Ignore ending. Ark left before it. Some want their choices acknowledged and this only gets them partial credit, but it can easily include all choices up to the final one. N the plus side they don't have to white wash the ending.

3. They white wash the ending. Time+distance allows writers to bull crap a way out of any ending. You are seeking new land because everything is destroyed so there is a bigger focus on exploration while rebuilding. Or you were the unlucky group who didn't get synthesis and fled persecution as the only pure organics.etc. I am not a writer so id expect professionals to be able to come up with better ass pulls than that. Positive you get a perspective on how your choices panned out, negative the choices might feel toned down depending on the story they concoct.

[In Exile]

It sounds like - for some people - "closure" won't exists unless the series ends on the total obliteration of the universe and the erasure from existence of the entire setting.

[Iakus]

Oh so this did turn into an ending thread after all.

 

Inevitable in retrospect.

Indeed.

 

This is going to haunt the IP for a long, long time.

[LinksOcarina]

Indeed.

 

This is going to haunt the IP for a long, long time.

Only due to malcontent

 

I bet the game after Andromeda is going to have no discussions regarding Mass Effect 3's ending.

[Patchwork]

None. At all.

 

And no returning characters, that's just opening the floodgates of 'well if X why not Y?' and before you know it there'll be thread after thread demanding HOF Shepard's return. 

[Matt VT Schlo]

None. That's the whole point, I think.

 

It's all good. Let Shepard et al rest in pieces and take us to pastures new.

well said. Time to move on. I am 'ok' with little references, but I am wanting a fresh start. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Only due to malcontent

 

I bet the game after Andromeda is going to have no discussions regarding Mass Effect 3's ending.

If history is any judge, people will be putting the ME3 ending on a pedestal while saying how terrible the MEA ending is.

[Iakus]

If history is any judge, people will be putting the ME3 ending on a pedestal while saying how terrible the MEA ending is.

They'd be hard pressed to top ME3.

 

I mean, the game would have to actually make the console burst into flame and laugh at you while doing so to make that happen, I think.

[LinksOcarina]

If history is any judge, people will be putting the ME3 ending on a pedestal while saying how terrible the MEA ending is.

 

The cycle must always continue. I say that in jest, but it's more accurate than people think sometimes.

[CrazyRah]

Honestly, as little as possible since I can't see them bring any closure in a way that I'd be happy with it. Would only make whatever displeasure that remains worse

[The Heretic of Time]

If history is any judge, people will be putting the ME3 ending on a pedestal while saying how terrible the MEA ending is.

 

Only the drones will. The people who actually take Mass Effect as it is without any delusions about the series probably won't.

[Xaijin]

Only due to malcontent

 

I bet the game after Andromeda is going to have no discussions regarding Mass Effect 3's ending.

 

 

The ill will exists for a reason and unless god got off his fluffy cloud and picked you to arbitrate all of fiction and interpretations of it, you're just going to be stuck with it.