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[Banxey]

Exactly my point.

Does anyone know if Bioware authorized the cancelling animation exploit for DAI?

If so please post link.

If not, is it being used and accepted just because other game(s) authorized it?

 

I remembered a dev mentioning it because it's how I learnt how to do it. 

 

Q.Attack Canceling: Is attack cancelling via using the sprint button a bug or intended? If its a bug, is it frowned upon or are you guys ok with it as a way to enhance gameplay?
A. This isn't intended.  I'm not sure whether we will fix it--maybe if it proves to be a big balance problem.  Personally I think it's really cool to see how players are exhibiting mastery of the game this way.

[sonofbarak]

If it's that player that has a special place for Antarctic birds, that ban wasn't for cheating.

Do you know of a player banned for cheating or abusing exploits?

 

Yes for abusing exploits

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I believe this is the part that is open to debate and which is being freely debated.

 

It is only as debatable as the definition of the verb "hurt."

[Bearform]

Some of you guys do not like analogy, but it really is a great way to compare some concepts and ideals. 

 

Those of you who claim that an exploit is an exploit and it should all be punished or be let go is really thinking about things as "black and white."

In the US there are small crimes such as marijuana possession which fortunately has been decriminalized in some states now and are heading toward nation wide decriminalization. Prior to this people lives were ruined because they would be jailed and their records would be ruined for a small crime. People saw it as a very taxing chore for the state. So that can be related to attack cancelling, a small crime that should be let go. Exploiting exp or using a trainer to cheat is ruining the game for a large proportion of players out there. More than the 10 that xxthat_guyxx talks about, anyways. It is a more serious crime and should be punished. 

 

If we let all exploits go then it would be a lawless state, if we punish harshly for all exploits then it would be a fascist state. Neither are good. 

But I assume most of you are from a democratic nation and thus democracy and voting would be the best way to poll the player's base opinion. Unfortunately BW does not have that option at the moment. We are resorted to posting on the forums, going back and forth with each other regarding the subject.

 

But alas no locking of the forum yet. Free speech for the moment still prevails. I guess even Canadians have to let free speech reign for a short while, sometimes. 

[ParthianShotX]

It is only as debatable as the definition of the verb "hurt."

 

I can find volumes to debate in that alone.  Can't you?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I can find volumes to debate in that alone.  Can't you?

 

I'm content to stick with just the one volume (the dictionary.)

[ParthianShotX]

I'm content to stick with just the one volume (the dictionary.)

 

How sweet and parochial of you.   I think  you'll find for every word multiple definitions.  Even in the dictionary.  I'm disappointed (but unsurprised) you can't engage in the intellectual exercise, though.

[Spectr61]

Some of you guys do not like analogy, but it really is a great way to compare some concepts and ideals. 
 
Those of you who claim that an exploit is an exploit and it should all be punished or be let go is really thinking about things as "black and white."
In the US there are small crimes such as marijuana possession which fortunately has been decriminalized in some states now and are heading toward nation wide decriminalization. Prior to this people lives were ruined because they would be jailed and their records would be ruined for a small crime. People saw it as a very taxing chore for the state. So that can be related to attack cancelling, a small crime that should be let go. Exploiting exp or using a trainer to cheat is ruining the game for a large proportion of players out there. More than the 10 that xxthat_guyxx talks about, anyways. It is a more serious crime and should be punished. 
 
If we let all exploits go then it would be a lawless state, if we punish harshly for all exploits then it would be a fascist state. Neither are good. 
But I assume most of you are from a democratic nation and thus democracy and voting would be the best way to poll the player's base opinion. Unfortunately BW does not have that option at the moment. We are resorted to posting on the forums, going back and forth with each other regarding the subject.
 
But alas no locking of the forum yet. Free speech for the moment still prevails. I guess even Canadians have to let free speech reign for a short while, sometimes.

This just in - A crime is a crime, or matter how small. That's why it's called a crime.

Try telling a judge that it's not a crime because it's small. See how well that works.

And the people whose lives were ruined by perpetuating small crimes? There's a word that describes them. Criminals.

[coffbear7]

And the pyscho-babble beatings will continue until morale improves or someone in the Justice Leage of America shows up and punishes the bad guys! Holy Hijack Batdude!

[Emperor10X]

Since there is no real harm to my game play, or enjoyment of the game, I could care less about who did what until it was fixed.

IMO Seems like it's more of a hey that person passed me on the leader boards, and

Maybe if the leader boards were reset every month. Then everyone would get a turn at the top. LOL

It's just a joke.....

[Emperor10X]

Since there is no real harm to my game play, or enjoyment of the game, I could care less about who did what until it was fixed.

IMO Seems like it's more of a hey that person passed me on the leader boards, and that's not fair.

Maybe if the leader boards were reset every month. Then everyone would get a turn at the top. LOL

It's just a joke.....

[sonofbarak]

Since there is no real harm to my game play, or enjoyment of the game, I could care less about who did what until it was fixed.

IMO Seems like it's more of a hey that person passed me on the leader boards, and that's not fair.

Maybe if the leader boards were reset every month. Then everyone would get a turn at the top. LOL

It's just a joke.....

 

Not funny

[Bearform]

This just in - A crime is a crime, or matter how small. That's why it's called a crime.

Try telling a judge that it's not a crime because it's small. See how well that works.

And the people whose lives were ruined by perpetuating small crimes? There's a word that describes them. Criminals.

 

Looks like Donald Trump will win the election. God help us all. 

 

"We have to deport them as a family, We got to keep the family together." God help us all. 

[Felis Menari]

@Denrok1: Going to Microsoft would result in a gamertag ban though, rather than a game specific ban, right? If so, then doing so is malicious and cruel. At the absolute most a player should be banned from the game they cheated on.

[xxthat guyxx]

Moified and infected lobbys are done via a modified system such as mod chip, jtag, or lagg switch aka a hardware mod.

If you had an account banned for this it is because they have software to detect it.

 

And this guys is what a real cheater is.

Short end is if you got that message you have modified hardware.

 

It has nothing to do with telling mommy on every 1

[xxthat guyxx]

@Denrok1: Going to Microsoft would result in a gamertag ban though, rather than a game specific ban, right? If so, then doing so is malicious and cruel. At the absolute most a player should be banned from the game they cheated on.

Who gives a f  let him tell whoever he wants whatever he wants. No 1 cares

 

I have seen many guys like him b4 i would bet the farm he has been picked on and pushed around his whole life.

If this is all he has....... fk it let him do his worst ... in a real life conflict he would have no chance so what makes you think he would ever drop it.

 

He is gonna keep runnin his mouth where no 1 can shut it.

Same goes for the flood of the rest of them following this post.

[Bearform]

Wow that is a really offensive and assumptive post about somebody you do not know personally. 

This is your poster boy, everybody. 

[xxthat guyxx]

Wow that is a really offensive and assumptive post about somebody you do not know personally. 

This is your poster boy, everybody. 

It is what it is

 

I say fight fire with fire. Did not stop any 1 from bashing every 1 that used a glitch we all know there have been no personal attacks there right?

 

Oh wait there totaly was. And well what can i say i call it how i see it.

Maybe just stop tryin to get every 1 in trouble. There are words for such kinds of people. Narc, snitch, rat, tattle tale, ect.

 

Google some of these words and see how the world feels about them.

As if thats not bad enough after its over and you dont get the result you want stir the pot again why dont ya?

 

For fk sake im so sick and tired of this. Just move on and stop trying to start a war over a damn video game.

Its pathetic

[nanotm]

what you mean it doesn't effect real life ?

 

but but biower pls

[Denrok1]

It is what it is

I say fight fire with fire. Did not stop any 1 from bashing every 1 that used a glitch we all know there have been no personal attacks there right?

Oh wait there totaly was. And well what can i say i call it how i see it.
Maybe just stop tryin to get every 1 in trouble. There are words for such kinds of people. Narc, snitch, rat, tattle tale, ect.

Google some of these words and see how the world feels about them.
As if thats not bad enough after its over and you dont get the result you want stir the pot again why dont ya?

For fk sake im so sick and tired of this. Just move on and stop trying to start a war over a damn video game.
Its pathetic

Look up the word ostracize, and no I was not picked on when I was in school, but I did graduate from uc berkeley for what it is worth. Protesting and fighting for what you believe in was part of the campus culture.

[Sulaco_7]

Look up the word ostracize, and no I was not picked one when I was in school, but I did graduate from uc berkeley for what it is worth. Protesting and fighting for what you believe in was part of the campus culture.

 

Nice!  Go Bears!

[Texasmotiv]

It is what it is

 

I say fight fire with fire. Did not stop any 1 from bashing every 1 that used a glitch we all know there have been no personal attacks there right?

 

His attacks had basis. You WERE cheating and admitted to it. You are just flinging mud to see what sticks. While Denrok's endless crusade to get people banned is questionable at best, you are just as bad if not worse because all you do in these forums is post about cheating and attack other posters with childish inappropriate hostility.

[Beerfish]

Nice!  Go Bears!

The band is on the field!

[Denrok1]

Nice! Go Bears!

The cheaters here must have released some of those usc Trojans . Cheating is in the culture down there too.

[CremeDelight]

I was thus thinking, for those we know who cheated we could flood xbox with complaints against the individuals. Let's keep the xbox report list in private message but if BioWare is not going to commence the bans let's have Microsoft do it. Send me a message for a list of folks to report on xbox. I would also like to exchange lists with people as well.

 

Something to consider -

 

Like that guy said, the ban in your post is only for modifying hardware and is a gamertag ban. The situation here warrants a game-specific ban from Bioware, not a general ban from Microsoft.

 

You probably shouldn't encourage people to "Flood / Mass Spam" Microsoft either. You know, cheating is a bad thing, it doesn't mean you get a free pass on doing other bad things to deal with it.